Chaperones lead Catholic schoolgirls out from "Nutcracker Suite" performance with same-sex roles, causing criticism, agreement

[vz71]

I was just trying to

Make other people’s morality the issue instead of the actual original post and the morality at play with the chaperones?

 

[Barnesy]

Barnesy:

I think that the people arguing for not letting the girls see the play was that it made gay marriage appear normal.

You would be wrong.

Annie seems to agree with me.

The chaperones did not want to expose the students to a situation in which a homosexual marriage was portrayed as normal.

Her post had quite a few likes. Nine I think. It seems quite a few people agree with me. Did you ‘like’ that post?

 

[Barnesy]

Thorolfr:

So, you wouldn’t have a problem if their was a play that portrayed a Catholic couple who got divorced and were then both remarried to other people in civil ceremonies and this was shown to be something perfectly normal and OK?

What I have a problem with , or not, is personal. Your tone is quite aggressive.

Im not sure you can detect tone in a written post. Thorolfr is always very polite. I think you have misunderstood his attitude. And vz answered the question with no problem. It seems very excessive not to see a play with a divorced couple in it but he said he wouldnt. would you decline to see it?

 

[Barnesy]

A good Catholic school might decide not to take the students to a play with divorced couple(s).

Additionally, since divorce is so prevalent, one might assume that parents have already discussed the topic with their children. The school cannot assume the same about homosexual marriage.

So if all the girls had talked about homosexual marriage with their parents (or even their teachers) then they could have seen the play?

 

[Annie]

No.

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[Annie]

Please don’t use me to be snarky.

 

[Barnesy]

Please don’t use me to be snarky.

I said that people were arguing that they didnt want the girls to see the play because that was making homosexual marriage seem normal. Vz said they weren’t although he would have read your post and others making the same point so i copied your post to show that was your argument and lots of people liked your post so they must have agreed with it. Thats not being snarky thats proving that my point was valid. Im sorry you thought it was snarky.

Maybe even vz liked your post. I dont know. But we know that same sex marriages are legaly valid and we know that they are not valid as far as the church is concerned and i bet the girls would have known that without any doubt. So not taking them wasnt to show that homosexual marriages are not valid it was to try to prevent the girls thinking it was normal.

 

[twoshoes]

Children,(students) do things all the time that are unhealthy and sinful, should we as guardians and parents ignore it and let them make up their own mind to the popular fad. I think not, you will not be doing your job as a guardian of souls. So easy to just give in to sin.

 

[vz71]

Annie seems to agree with me.

So?

Her post had quite a few likes. Nine I think.

No, eight as of right now.
Seems odd that you would bother to go back that far and not bother looking at the numbers.
Even more odd that you would try to make a point with them without checking.

It seems quite a few people agree with me.

How would you know that?
A like of a post does not necessarily indicate complete agreement with what has been said.
Of course, assuming it is, this would still be a fallacy on your part…argumentum ad populum.

Did you ‘like’ that post?

Unless the system is hiding it from me, no I did not.

 

[vz71]

It seems very excessive not to see a play with a divorced couple in it but he said he wouldnt. would you decline to see it?

You playing fast and loose with facts that are easily verifiable. Actually going so far as to quote posts and then claim they mean something different than what was written.

 

[Annie]

I said that

I read what you wrote. Your wording sounded snarky to me.

But we know that same sex marriages are legaly valid and we know that they are not valid as far as the church is concerned

See? You knew what she meant.

 

[Annie]

But you seem to imply that they could if it was divorce. You said the only difference was if it had been discussed.

What I said was good Catholic school might decide not to take the students to a play including divorce, but that the chances would be higher that parents had already been forced to discuss divorce with their children.

The chaperones might not have decided to leave a play in which a peripheral character had been divorced and was not dating/remarried, but declined to take the students to see Larry Crown.

 

[Annie]

@Barnesy

You are Monday morning quarterbacking this decision of the chaperones. Why is that? Why are you drilling down on the very nuances of the words we Catholics use and equivocating them against us?

I mean, that just seems like a lot of hair splitting about a decision the chaperones had to make quickly and suddenly.

 

[EndTimes]

Its good to see that the forum stands up against some things that people say and some one was banned last week for calling gay people perverts

No one should label any who have SSA, aka Homosexual persons, names.

MeanWhile, yes - Active Homosexuality Behavior is a Grave Sin…

 

[EndTimes]

Not “per God”, per the Catechism and the Bible. Two different things.

No… Not at all…

God inspires Sacred Scriptures - which is why they are Sacred/Holy/Of God

Scriptures are the Very WORD of God. .

 

[EndTimes]

What does the school do when the girls are exposed to the parts of the bible when things are not normal like lot and his daughters??

It Teaches them that those parts are Grave Sin…

And those who refuse to cease involving in UnNatural Lusts

• can wind up in Hell if they ultimately refuse to repent of their Sin.

 

[TheLittleLady]

Divorce in and of itself is not sinful

As I have posted the reference many times, I will simply suggest you use this searchable version of the Catechism for the word “divorce” and read the teachings of the Church.

Divorce is an offence against marriage.

 

[TheLittleLady]

I suppose not so they should tell girls not to see plays with divorced couples otherwise some one might say thats hypocritical.

I think we can assume that posters here expect that the Catholic school investigate the marriages of all who wish to enroll their kids in school to make sure all are in valid marriages.

 

[Polak]

If you want more people to support gay rights then take some more girls to the play and walk out just as it starts.

You’ve lost me. Why would a Catholic want more people to support gay rights? A Catholic can support the right of human beings to be treated with dignity, respect and not be discriminated, gay or otherwise. Gay rights though, you would have to define to me, because I’m pretty sure it doesn’t stop at ‘the right for a man or woman to be gay’.

I wonder why you are spending your time antagonizing people on a Catholic forum. “Shrug”

Agreed. It looks like a provocation to me. The user isn’t Catholic and clearly has different beliefs to Catholics on this issue, yet he keeps trying to tell Catholics and Catholic schools, how they should be reacting when they are confronted with this problem.

Should we teach children to think for themselves?? Of course we should. Should we let them do whatever they want when their young?? Of course we shouldnt. I dont know what your asking.

You like to pick and choose what we should and should not let out children do, and passing down Catholic teachings on sexuality to them seems to be one you aren’t keen on and believe they should be allowed to decide for themselves about. Perhaps that’s because you know most societies now are very liberal and against Catholic teachings on this issue? it’s in our education, it’s in our media, it’s almost everywhere. So if you let young impressionable people choose for themselves, they are highly likely to choose to be for homosexual marriage and homosexual activity, because society says it’s okay.

I say Catholic parents and Catholic schools should be teaching children Catholic teachings and protecting them as best they can from sinful ones. When the children are fully independent adults, then they can so whatever they want.

 

[vz71]

Its good to see that the forum stands up against some things that people say and some one was banned last week for calling gay people perverts.

It is against forum rules to be discussing moderator actions towards a user.

You do not know why actions would or would not be taken unless the moderator specifically told you. Moderators do not tell others why, only the individual of whom action has been taken.