Chaperones lead Catholic schoolgirls out from "Nutcracker Suite" performance with same-sex roles, causing criticism, agreement

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Barnesy:
Their actions in support of gay rights was prompted by them not being allowed to see the play. They may have supported gay rights before but they were very vocal in their support after.
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Well.
You keep claiming an opposite affect happened than the one they intended.

This means you are claiming the purpose in walking out of the play was to suppress this support.

You have no evidence of this.
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Stopping them seeing the play was intended to show that a gay relationship is not to be considered normal. If the girls thought so then nothing more would have been heard about it. They obviously disagreed and now everyone has heard about it and most condem the actions and now there is active support for gay rights. If you think thats ok then you should support more people doing this type of thing. Id be quite happy for you to do that.
 
If they are actively living a homosexual lifestyle, yes.
This is what Sacred Scripture, and Sacred tradition tells us to do.
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This is not now about what the church teaches its about what catholic schoolchildren feel about gay rights. Your views seem to be those of exclusion. Maybe you exclude every one who sins. Who knows.
 
Barnesy said:
They are catholic students in a catholic school. Are you saying they are not catholic because they support their catholic schools aim to be inclusive of those who are gay? Thats all the girls have been doing. Do you think the school should exlude those who are gay?
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The Catholic Church teaches that marriage is a public act. Same-sex attempt at a facsimile of marriage are clearly a statement of immoral activity taking place. Yes, I realize that under some twisted laws of marriage people can now marry just for the financial advantages and not intend to commit any sin, but from the point of view of the Church, a marriage is a public act which assumes sexual activity.

So this is not simply a matter of exclusion due to a person’s condition of being homosexual; it is a matter of renouncing a “statement” made in the play that homosexual activity is on an equal level with heterosexual marital activity.

A person cannot choose his condition and should not be excluded on account of it.

But just as I would prefer my children not to watch movies which say racism is a viable optional wolrdview or play video games which say violence is a good way to handle situations, Catholics prefer their children not to watch media which normalize homosexual activity and say that it’s all right.

We may differ on this, but why is your view more valid than mine?
 
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Barnesy said:
Stopping them seeing the play was intended to show that a gay relationship is not to be considered normal.
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So now you claim the results were not the opposite of what was intended.
Barnesy said:
If you think thats ok then you should support more people doing this type of thing.
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I wish every Catholic would walk out of morally offensive performances.
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Id be quite happy for you to do that.
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You don’t sound happy.
 
Maybe this is where your problem is because you cant teach children what to believe. You can tell them what the church teaches and you must teach them to make decisions for themselves based on the facts. But you cant say believe this and believe that.
 
Vocal doesn’t change the fact that no numbers changed.

If I vote one way, I vote that way regardless of how loud I am.

Now we have people who didn’t know what that school teaches that know what they teach.

I prefer them to be vocal. Then I know who the enemies are, and who is or isn’t really a Catholic.
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Then we agree you should keep on doing it.
 
Annie said:
We may differ on this, but why is your view more valid than mine?
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It isnt. I havent said it is. These are just my views and my view has equal weight as yours. And the views of the schoolgirls have equal weight as well.
 
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And the views of the schoolgirls have equal weight as well
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No, the views of the chaperones have more weight. In school, the views of the teachers have more weight. And at home, the views of the parents.

That is why the students are children and the others are adults.
 
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Barnesy:
Do you really think so??
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ROTFL!

You don’t?
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The worst teachers i had were the ones that said this is what you must believe. They didnt like us asking why all the time. The best ones were the ones that told us what other people believed and why and then taught us to think for ourselves. They hated it when we didnt ask why. We obvioulsy have different ideas about education.
 
Theres your problem. If you tell some one that their view doesnt align with god and they want to keep their view becuase they think its right then what do you think is going to happen?? They will either think god is wrong or you are the one that is wrong is saying that thats what god wants. Which is more likely do you think?
 
Were obviously not talking about chemistry or physics or maths are we. We cant decide that pythagorus was wrong. If you think that simply repeating what you have been told is all education is about then we will disagree about it.
 
Ive got no interest in what people do in private as long as they are old enough and they both agree.
 
I just told you i have no problem with it. And an action does not have to be moral or imoral. Thats obviously wrong. Im going to fry some sausages for dinner. Tell me if thats moral or imoral.
 
That would be a moral action.

Every action is either a moral one, or an immoral one. If it is a good then it is moral. If it is a bad, then it is immoral.

Homosexuality is wrong and immoral in all cases, regardless on if you have a problem with it or not, because it goes against the natural law, it breaks with the natural end of sex and union between Man and Woman.

However, because you would dispute with an objective truth by attempting to change the end goal of sex, you would have us Catholic Children that all opinion has weight, which would imply that there are no objective truths. You would, of course, make exceptions for math and chemistry, but that’s because they don’t hurt your life style.

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Almost every one has sex. And they do it just for fun almost all the time. They dont care about having babies they just enjoy doing it. I dont care what you do in private and i dont care what any one else does in private either. If you think theres a natural law then dont break it. Its not like a law against drinking and driving when you can break it if you want because we can all see the damage that can happen. But lots of people dont see any harm from having sex just the way they want it. I dont see any harm as long as your not cheating on someone and your old enough and you both agree.
 
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