Chik-fil-A Stands Up for Traditional Marriage

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Seeker1961 said:
What I find really funny about Chick-fil-a is that they have a 2 for 1 meal day for Disney Cast members every payday. Disney is one of the more gay friendly employers in the country. So Chick-fil-a is helping gay people save money while funding anti gay marriage programs. šŸ¤·
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They have stated publically that they treat EVERYONE the same. Doesnā€™t mean they support gay marriage. The reason they do this??? Have no clue, but I can almost tell you for sure, itā€™s not to support gay marriage. I had the opportunity to see the original owner in an interview, and he said: ā€œNo matter what people support or who they are, we treat everyone with respect and courtesy. ** But** we will not back down from our personal beliefs in traditional values.ā€ They have also said they have been highly pressured to stay open on Sunday, but to this day, will not open the doors on Sunday. He said to respect the employees right to worship, plus the Lordā€™s Day should be a day of rest.

I think itā€™s splitting hairs with the Disney Cast members. After all, if we want to make a statement, we would stop shopping at: Target, JC Penneyā€™s, Sears, Walmart, and countless others that are not promoting traditional values. Pretty soon we would just have to ā€œlive off the landā€. Because Disney supports certain groups, doesnā€™t mean the Cast Members do, anyway.
 
CatholicBoy1957 said:
Congratulations, you didnā€™t get it. Seeker still doesnā€™t get it, and Iā€™m sure there are plenty of others, on this forum, who still donā€™t get it either. A list of their names would read like a ā€œWhoā€™s Who of the Heterodoxā€ on CAF. There are plenty of people here also who donā€™t make any sense of anything about Christianity. If I had to spell it out without giving a reader a chance to give it some thought, it would lose the value of giving people an opportunity to do some thinking for themselves, and thereby, growing in their faith. People asked Christ, 2000 years ago, why He spoke in parables. Perhaps you should tell Him sometime that He should have just spoken it straight out.

So letā€™s try this approach on it then. Perhaps you would like to explain how Seekerā€™s negative comments regarding the nutritional value of Chick-fil-Aā€™s menu supports taking a stand with a company that supports traditional Christian values? And then you can also explain how that was on topic.
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Keep making assumptions about my life there CatholicBoy, you continue to prove that you have no idea what youā€™re talking about. You just apparently enjoy finding reasons to condemn people, even if you have to make them up.
JRKH said:
Well I guess that we donā€™t ā€œgetā€ each otherā€¦ my only intent was to help you communicate better for the benefit of those reading your posts. After all, if the point is to get people to thinkā€¦and supposedly draw the correct conclusion (which certainly was Jesus intent) your previous posts seem to have failed miserably.
Likewise, when the Apostles asked Jesus to explain a parable, He did. You seem to resist offering more clear explanations of your meanings. This does not strike me as charitableā€¦

BUT - since it appears that you prefer to post in this, unclear and provocative mannerā€¦I suppose there is no point in continuing the discussion.

Peace
James
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CatholicBoy1957 said:
Congratulations, you didnā€™t get it. Seeker still doesnā€™t get it, and Iā€™m sure there are plenty of others, on this forum, who still donā€™t get it either. A list of their names would read like a ā€œWhoā€™s Who of the Heterodoxā€ on CAF. There are plenty of people here also who donā€™t make any sense of anything about Christianity. If I had to spell it out without giving a reader a chance to give it some thought, it would lose the value of giving people an opportunity to do some thinking for themselves, and thereby, growing in their faith. People asked Christ, 2000 years ago, why He spoke in parables. Perhaps you should tell Him sometime that He should have just spoken it straight out.

So letā€™s try this approach on it then. Perhaps you would like to explain how Seekerā€™s negative comments regarding the nutritional value of Chick-fil-Aā€™s menu supports taking a stand with a company that supports traditional Christian values? And then you can also explain how that was on topic.
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Goodness, you are being very rude. I didnā€™t know expressing confusion over your statement meant we were heterodox haha. Oh well.
 
anp1215 said:
Goodness, you are being very rude. I didnā€™t know expressing confusion over your statement meant we were heterodox haha. Oh well.
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Really? You mean itā€™s really me, for a change, thatā€™s being rude? Iā€™m somewhat relieved. And here I thought I was being the target of the rudeness, like usual.

I should think itā€™s so easy.

The Gnat: Concern over the horrors of consuming food that is not of ideal nutritional value.

vs.

The Camel: No problem supporting the Gay lifestyle, which, in terms of health risk, well, it is camel sized.

As for chastity and heterosexuality, maybe it will take many nights of sleeping on it for some to catch on to it. It took me 55 years to get where I am. Heterosexuals get AIDS? Did anyone really think I was going to be surprised with that bit of information? Of course, heterosexuals get AIDS. Lots of them. And, for the most part, how does that happen? For the most part, it is by lack of chastity. Chik-fil-A stands up for traditional marriage, and I support their stand, not because I believe ā€œhetero-is-betteroā€, because in many cases, itā€™s not difficult to see where it may not be better, but I support that because of chastity. So yes, supporting traditional marriage, the way that Chik-fil-A does, is not the opposite of homosexuality because it is heterosexual, but rather, because it is chaste, or at least, it provides for the opportunity to be so, even if it often is not, whereas, Gay marriage would never be chaste in any instance. Hence, my comment, ā€œHeterosexuality is not the opposite of homosexuality. Chastity is the opposite of homosexuality and fornication.ā€

And as far as Christ explaining his words, I think He did explain that some would just never get it:

ā€œā€˜they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,

and ever hearing but never understanding;

otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!ā€™ā€

By the way, expressing confusion over my statement does not make anyone heterodox. The horse comes before the cart. Heterodoxy does mean that a person will be confused by orthodoxy. Thank you for your ability to take this with some humor.

Second by the way: thank you for your support of traditional marriage and your support of Chik-fil-A. Iā€™m pleased that you kept it ā€œon topicā€, and had favorable comments about genuine Christian values.
 
CatholicBoy1957 said:
Really? You mean itā€™s really me, for a change, thatā€™s being rude? Iā€™m somewhat relieved. And here I thought I was being the target of the rudeness, like usual.

I should think itā€™s so easy.

The Gnat: Concern over the horrors of consuming food that is not of ideal nutritional value.

vs.

The Camel: No problem supporting the Gay lifestyle, which, in terms of health risk, well, it is camel sized.

As for chastity and heterosexuality, maybe it will take many nights of sleeping on it for some to catch on to it. It took me 55 years to get where I am. Heterosexuals get AIDS? Did anyone really think I was going to be surprised with that bit of information? Of course, heterosexuals get AIDS. Lots of them. And, for the most part, how does that happen? For the most part, it is by lack of chastity. Chik-fil-A stands up for traditional marriage, and I support their stand, not because I believe ā€œhetero-is-betteroā€, because in many cases, itā€™s not difficult to see where it may not be better, but I support that because of chastity. So yes, supporting traditional marriage, the way that Chik-fil-A does, is not the opposite of homosexuality because it is heterosexual, but rather, because it is chaste, or at least, it provides for the opportunity to be so, even if it often is not, whereas, Gay marriage would never be chaste in any instance. Hence, my comment, ā€œHeterosexuality is not the opposite of homosexuality. Chastity is the opposite of homosexuality and fornication.ā€

And as far as Christ explaining his words, I think He did explain that some would just never get it:

ā€œā€˜they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,

and ever hearing but never understanding;

otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!ā€™ā€

By the way, expressing confusion over my statement does not make anyone heterodox. The horse comes before the cart. Heterodoxy does mean that a person will be confused by orthodoxy. Thank you for your ability to take this with some humor.
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I am really happy with Chick Fil A too. I even sent them a message of support. I also thought the concern over nutritional info. posted on this thread was pointless and off-topic. What does that have to do with anything? šŸ¤· I didnā€™t understand your statement above, but I think I kind of see now what you were trying to say.
 
From Reuters:
The Muppets are ending their relationship with fast food restaurant chain Chick-Fil-A in a show of support for gay marriage, the creators of the puppet troupe said on Monday.

ā€œThe Jim Henson Company has celebrated and embraced diversity and inclusiveness for over fifty years and we have notified Chick-Fil-A that we do not wish to partner with them on any future endeavors,ā€ the company said in a statement posted on their official Facebook page.

The Henson company, named after the creator of lovable characters like Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy, supplied their Creature Shop Muppet toys to Chick-Fil-A for childrenā€™s meal packages but decided to sever ties after recent statements by the fast-food chainā€™s Chief Executive Dan Cathy.

Cathy told the Baptist Press in a recent interview the company supported the ā€œtraditional family,ā€ and ā€œthe biblical definition of the family unit.ā€

The Henson company, whose Muppet characters are hugely popular, said its Chief Executive Lisa Henson is a ā€œstrong supporter of gay marriage and has directed us to donate the payment we received from Chick-Fil-A to GLAAD,ā€ the company said in their statement.

For the record, the offending words that caused all of this are from an interview done with the (NC) Baptist Reporter (and picked up by the Associated Baptist Press):

The company invests in Christian growth and ministry through their WinShape Foundation (WinShape.com). The name comes from the idea of shaping people to be winners.

It began as a college scholarship and expanded to a foster care program, an international ministry, and a conference and retreat center modeled after the Billy Graham Training Center at the Cove.

ā€œThat morphed into a marriage program in conjunction with national marriage ministries,ā€ Cathy added.

Some have opposed the companyā€™s support of the traditional family. ā€œWell, guilty as charged,ā€ said Cathy when asked about this opposition.

ā€œWe are very much supportive of the family ā€“ the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

ā€œWe operate as a family business ā€¦ our restaurants are typically led by families ā€“ some are single. We want to do anything we possibly can to strengthen families. We are very much committed to that,ā€ Cathy emphasized.

Chik-Fil-A issued a press release regarding the controversy (not just about the Muppets, but the controversy in general). Excerpts:

In recent weeks, we have been accused of being anti-gay. We have no agenda against anyone. At the heart and soul of our company, we are a family business that serves and values all people regardless of their beliefs or opinions. We seek to treat everyone with honor, dignity and respect, and believe in the importance of loving your neighbor as yourself.

We also believe in the need for civility in dialogue with others who may have different beliefs. While my family and I believe in the Biblical definition of marriage, we love and respect anyone who disagrees.

Chick-fil-A has a long history of trying to encourage and strengthen marriages and families, both within our Chick-fil-A system and with our customers. My father and our Founder/CEO, Truett Cathy, is a role model for the Cathy family and all those who have joined Chick-fil-A. His personal and business values have always reflected a belief in the importance of marriage and family. We have seen these principles honored powerfully in Dadā€™s marriage of more than 63 years to our mother Jeannette and those of his family, including my wife Rhonda and me in our 37 years of marriage.

At Chick-fil-A, we have a heart for helping marriages because we know marriage can be difficult at times. Through the years, we have supported our Chick-fil-A staff and franchised Operators in their marriage journey, and since the formation of our family foundation, the WinShape Foundation, we have helped others as well. Primarily through WinShape, we have supported summer camps for girls and boys, 14 foster homes, more than $26 million in college scholarships and the development and operation of the WinShape Marriage Retreat Center.

Bottom line: may Mammon have mercy on anybody who does not fully endorse and embrace the homosexual agenda. Because anything less than ringing support will earn the wrath of the public.

Interesting society we live in these days.
 
The Henson company, named after the creator of lovable characters like Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy, supplied their Creature Shop Muppet toys to Chick-Fil-A for childrenā€™s meal packages but decided to sever ties after recent statements by the fast-food chainā€™s Chief Executive Dan Cathy.
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They make it sound like it was a charitable gift. :confused:

Translation - ā€œThe Henson company sold products to the Chick-fil-A company as one media outlet for advertising some of its TV and movie characters. Chick-fil-A is now (as it always was) free to use other toys in its kids meals.ā€
 
Now I have a legitimate excuse for why I donā€™t like the Muppets.
 
Iā€™m going to go to ChikFilA more often now.

Itā€™s a sad sign of our times that businesses and individuals who stand up to promote good moral values are persecuted by the popular media.
 
markomalley said:
Bottom line: may Mammon have mercy on anybody who does not fully endorse and embrace the homosexual agenda. Because anything less than ringing support will earn the wrath of the public.
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Indeed. Remember folks, in order to be Tolerantā„¢ you have to bully and demonise those whose opinions differ from yours. When Celebrating Diversityā„¢, only do so with regards to superficial things such as colour or sexual perversity. Conformity of thought must always be maintained.

Personally, I like the Chick-Fil-A company. I really respect how they refuse to operate on Sunday so that families can have time to spend together and go to church. They could easily go for the greed and open up, as theyā€™d be able to get the business.
 
If Iā€™m ever in the US, Iā€™ll definitely have to make an effort to eat at Chick-Fil-A! šŸ™‚

I assume theyā€™re pretty much like MacDonalds(?)
 
MidnightSun12 said:
If Iā€™m ever in the US, Iā€™ll definitely have to make an effort to eat at Chick-Fil-A! šŸ™‚

I assume theyā€™re pretty much like MacDonalds(?)
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Inasmuch as they are a fast-food chain, yes. The quality of the food is much higher though, and they only deal with chicken and not beef.
 
:yawn:

Who caresā€¦ This just means less money for the Muppets.
 
Donā€™t have a Chick-Fil-A close to where I live but I will make sure I eat at one when I am close to one - my children and grandchildren were never really big Muppets fans and now Iā€™ll never buy anything dealing with them for sure should we have any future grandchildren.
 
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