Yep. Why do we raise our right hands to bless people? Why does the pope lay his hand on a new bishops temple? Why do we lower our heads when we say “by the power of the holy spirit”? Why do we cross our forehead our mouth and heart? Because they all should belong to Christ. Why would a mere body part be burning inside of Blessed Mary’s and Jesus’ chest. Because they are significant. I had ashes rubbed on my forehead on Ash Wednesday, why? Because some people can feel these things. Our thoughts are not enough. Our thoughts are mere human they are worth about as much as the ashes.
I don’t think this was ever questioned.
What was being disputed is Kundalini yoga and whether it is compatible with Christianity. It is not.
We are nothing without God.
And no one here said otherwise.
There is more to this, not a conspiracy, not man trying to be supernatural, but man in his shame and insignificance can truly feel something else the part that they desperately wish to rejoin but due to original sin could never measure up to being worthy.
And what does awakening the kundalini serpent have anything to do with original sin or our redemption from it.
We have our savior to redeem us. So we can actually despite our wretchedness humble ourselves enough to experience a
mere quotient of our Heavenly fathers love
No one here disputed this so I don’t know why you are writing as if somehow by questioning kundalini we are also questioning this.
and make an attempt to spread that through the world as his Son did. That is our goal I thought as Catholics.
This needs to be clarified. Christ did no come to spread “love”. Christ came to redeem us from sin.
Christ’s mission can be summed up in His words 5 days before His crucifixion: And when I am lifted up I will draw all men to MYSELF.
Christianity is not about the fuzzy, wuzzy feeling we erroneously give the term “love” to. The goal of every Christian is to proclaim the gospel that is the PERSON OF CHRIST. The gospel is not just Christ’s feel good sayings but Christ Himself.
No one is up to the task, no one is good enough, but we are Gods children and we need to be like children and recognize our inferiority.
No one said other wise. It is not a matter of recognizing our inferiority but our creaturedness. And that is what it means to be humble. Humility derives from the word “humus” which means “of the earth”.
Our reason is not enough only grace is enough. We can never achieve anything on our own or from our own will. We have to give up every part of ourselves that we thought important and relearn it and no amount of studying or experimenting can do it.
And again, I don’t see anyone here saying otherwise.
New Age Spirituality, or Kundalini cannot do it.
And that you have got 100% correct.
No one could ever raise anything from God by will.
But we can raise everything TO God by will. As a matter of fact that is what we are all required to do, to consecrate our very lives to God. It is a choice we need to make and so therefore an act of will.
And if someone says they did than they are probably lying.
I haven’t seen anyone on this thread claim so, so I don’t know why you are even writing this.
I never meant to place any other impression.
Well, in your first post, you certainly gave the impression that you think kundalini, Hinduism and Buddhism are the go.
You wrote that the Catholic tradition is somehow ill equipped to deal with this “manifestations” and it is not. She has a long history of TRUE spiritual mysticism.
I a very cafeteria Catholic who after her mother died realized she was not a good enough person.
If you are a cafeteria Catholic as you claim, then there lies the problem. I don’t think there really is such a thing as a cafeteria Catholic. To be Catholic is to accept all the teachings of the church and shun those that go against them. A Protestant may pick and choose and still be a Protestant Christian but Catholics do not have such a luxury.
I decided to see Christ in everyone and then one day something changed.
And that, every Christian is asked to do. What soever we do to the least of His brethren we do to Him.
When I tried to figure it out I read lots of things, I merely saw similarities between two things.
This part I don’t know what to make of, because I don’t know what things you saw similarities in.
And because of the Church’s ecumenical efforts in turning to dialogue with the world, and so with the major religions of the world, some think we can now utilize the methods of some of those religions in approaching Christian prayer. The danger - and it’s a real danger, as you’ve pointed out - is that a syncretistic result of too quick an acceptance of Eastern methods will bring a consciousness that will actually dilute or obstruct progress in the spiritual life and that this error will be quite subtle, though no less harmful for its subtlety. However, if one tries to correct a brother or sister in this we are accused of not being loving, because all depends on what I call “luv”, that wishy-washy approach that cannot see truth and love as flowing from the same Source.
