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Marie
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Ani Ibi:
Do you have a link to the article?
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Ani_Ibi
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No. But it’s on one of these Sheehan threads. I’ll take a look. Ani
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Ani_Ibi
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Ani Ibi:
Camp Casey
You may want to also ask Judy for the names of the folks who removed their children’s crosses from Camp Casey.
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Camp Casey
You may want to also ask Judy for the names of the folks who removed their children’s crosses from Camp Casey.
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Syn_kobiety
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I quoted two good Catholics in their opposition to Mr. Bush’s war.
Pope John Paul II: the war threatens the whole of humanity
http://www.cathnews.com/news/303/124.php
*Ratzinger: “concept of a ‘preventive war’ does not appear in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.” *
http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_08_29/article.html
Did I? Well, how does she (and not Code Pink, et al) oppose what the Magisterium teaches?
I was unaware that you are the spokesman for Benedict. I would like to hear his own words regarding these matters.
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Syn_kobiety
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Bush’s war policies, being the reason for Sheehan’s activities, are much more relevant here than Code Pink and other groups.
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Lizzie
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The thread is about Cindy Sheehan’s Allies.
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Ani_Ibi
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"‘I now know he’s sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,’ Cindy said after their meeting. ‘I know he’s sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of faith.’
"The meeting didn’t last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son’s sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.
"The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.
"For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.
For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.
“‘That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,’ Cindy said.”
CINDY 2004 THE REPORTER of Vacaville, CA published an account of Cindy Sheehan’s visit with the president at Fort Lewis near Seattle on June 24, 2004:
"‘I now know he’s sincere about wanting freedom for the Iraqis,’ Cindy said after their meeting. ‘I know he’s sorry and feels some pain for our loss. And I know he’s a man of faith.’
"The meeting didn’t last long, but in their time with Bush, Cindy spoke about Casey and asked the president to make her son’s sacrifice count for something. They also spoke of their faith.
"The trip had one benefit that none of the Sheehans expected.
"For a moment, life returned to the way it was before Casey died. They laughed, joked and bickered playfully as they briefly toured Seattle.
For the first time in 11 weeks, they felt whole again.
“‘That was the gift the president gave us, the gift of happiness, of being together,’ Cindy said.”
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Adonis33
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If you think it is okay to name call the President, as Sheehan has repeatedly done, then shame on you. Putting Sheehan in the same company as Pope JPII and Pope Benedict XVI is silly.
I never claimed to be a spokesman for the Pope. Are you suggesting that perhaps the Pope would refer to our President in such a disgusting way?
If you think it is okay to name call the President, as Sheehan has repeatedly done, then shame on you. Putting Sheehan in the same company as Pope JPII and Pope Benedict XVI is silly.
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Syn_kobiety
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OK. You are right.
Is Cindy Sheehan a member of Code Pink?
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Fitz
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I don’t know if Cindy is a member of any of those organizations. She was vocal about being anti war before he son joined, after he joined, and now after his death. They alligned themselves with her because of her position. They are using her.
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Syn_kobiety
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But you did speak for him:
With our previous President, it became common to refer to the President of the United States in disgusting ways. Shame on all of you who have done that.
Back to Sheehan, all I did was to show that her view on Mr. Bush’s war is similar to that of John Paul II and then-Cardinal Ratzinger.
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Lizzie
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Syn kobiety:
You didn’t know that Code Pink was backing Cindy?
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Syn_kobiety
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I knew that. I am asking if Cindy backs Code Pink?You didn’t know that Code Pink was backing Cindy?
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Adonis33
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Back to Sheehan, all I did was to show that her view on Mr. Bush’s war is similar to that of John Paul II and then-Cardinal Ratzinger.
Mr. Clinton is not the issue.
I do not believe that Either Pope JPII or Benedict XVI reffered to Pres. Bush as a murderer and terrorist. They have condemned the terrorist while Mrs. Sheehan has reffered to the same terrorist as “freedom fighters”. I think that the Holy See’s view, and Sheehan’s view are very different.
With our previous President, it became common to refer to the President of the United States in disgusting ways. Shame on all of you who have done that.
Back to Sheehan, all I did was to show that her view on Mr. Bush’s war is similar to that of John Paul II and then-Cardinal Ratzinger.
Mr. Clinton is not the issue.
I do not believe that Either Pope JPII or Benedict XVI reffered to Pres. Bush as a murderer and terrorist. They have condemned the terrorist while Mrs. Sheehan has reffered to the same terrorist as “freedom fighters”. I think that the Holy See’s view, and Sheehan’s view are very different.
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gilliam
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She is taking their money. So I guess she does.
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Syn_kobiety
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I know this will come as a surprise to the Fox News viewers here, but the war against Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism or with the attacks against us on 9/11/2001. That said, I find that Cindy Sheehan’s legitimate grievances with the Bush administration to remain credible in spite of the excesses in her speech. Still, she invites criticism with her declaration of a tax boycott and her characterisation of non-Iraqi insurgents as “freedom fighters.”
I don’t believe that either JPII or Benedict has offered any approval of Mr. Bush’s war.
Pope John Paul II: the war threatens the whole of humanity
http://www.cathnews.com/news/303/124.php
*Ratzinger: “concept of a ‘preventive war’ does not appear in the Catechism of the Catholic Church.” *
http://www.amconmag.com/2005/2005_08_29/article.html
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gilliam
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Syn kobiety:
This thread is about Cindy sheehan’s Allies, if you want to debate the liberation of Iraq (and it really seems like you do), do it on another thread
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Syn_kobiety
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This thread seems to be about bashing Cindy Sheehan by association with others.
BTW, your post on August 23, 2005 10:12 PM doesn’t address Sheehan’s allies either.
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gilliam
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Than I was in the wrong. The thread is about Cindy sheehan’s Allies
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Lizzie
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Thank you for saying that.
For some reason when anyone focuses in on the actual actions and words of Ms Sheehan, her defenders divert the discussion.
I hate to say it but those who keep claiming that Cindy Sheehan is speaking for the Pope must have their blinders on. Do not these same Cindy supporters know what the Catholic Church and the Popes teach about marriage? Do Cindy supporters think it a good thing that she sacrificed her marriage for this democrat/dissident cause?
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