Climate Change Debate: Pope VS Trump Supporters?

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Double posting because I somehow was logged out while editing my first post.
Catholic1954 said:
human activity cannot cause changes in the climate and cannot fix them.
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This is opinion, not fact. Here’s one small example: each google search produces the same amount of CO2 as a pot of boiling water, multiply that by the billions of people with internet access who conduct searches multiple times per day, then multiply each day by 365. Consider also the yearly rate of deforestation, which takes away plants whose oxygen offset the CO2 which, by the way warms up the atmosphere. A lot of human activities, such as farming, have changed within the last century in order to be more profitable, while simultaneously producing more greenhouse gases.There are many other examples of activities which accelerate climate change, but you can’t tell me that the hole in the ozone layer isn’t a blatant warning sign to us humans. Scientists have warned that the earth is heading for its sixth mass extinction event, mainly caused by human activity. Climate change also directly endangers humans, as it endangers our food sources, increases our susceptibility to and mortality from various diseases, in addition to directly spreading other diseases. Denial of climate change is really just sticking your head in the sand, and it will endanger you, your children, and your children’s children.
Catholic1954 said:
Catholics cannot do anything about changes in the patterns of the Earth’s climate, but we can do something to promote pro-life issues.
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  1. That was a great red herring.
  2. You know that human activities and practices have actually altered the environment for the better as well, right? For example that hole in the ozone layer began to close up after CFCs from hairsprays and appliances were banned. Additionally, science has made fantastic strides in new sources of clean energy (hello, jobs!) and reducing waste.
  3. I highly suggest watching some documentaries and reading scientific literature on the subject with an open mind. Some of these facts I’m spouting I learned from a college class.
  4. If God gave us this earth, should we not take care of it?
 
mVitus said:
I’m not doubting social services have an impact, I’m just noting that there are mitigating factors to that drop rate.

(Side note: Overall I lean fairly liberal on many issues. That said, you’re beating a dead horse here. This forum’s conservative and not prone to change anytime soon.)

For those saying to leave it to the states, the EPA was created on account of the FAILURE of the states to regulate the environment. Plus many issues transcends states. Pollutants that go into the air can fall elsewhere.

If the pope tells you to jump off a bridge, odds are it’s to avoid getting hit by the train.
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I have to try though… If I think about giving up on pointing out the mistakes, I can only imagine what Jesus would say.
 
YOU said:
TeenCatholicGuy said:
It is possible, but even so, Abortion rates fall when $ is invested in Social Security.
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I said:
Why would abortion rates fall when money is invested in Social Security ?
Most women on Social Security can’t conceive

YOU then said:
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Catholics don’t talk that way.
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I’m Catholic, and I talk that way. The question is, what in the heck are YOU talking about ? You do realize that Social Security is normally something that people in their 60’s and older receive ? So you either think that people 60 and older receiving their Social Security checks are making younger women somehow magically abort their babies less or that older women will abort their babies less when more money is given to Social Security. Either way, I have no idea of what you are talking about.
 
tuscany said:
YOU said:

I said:
Why would abortion rates fall when money is invested in Social Security ?
Most women on Social Security can’t conceive

YOU then said:

I’m Catholic, and I talk that way. The question is, what in the heck are YOU talking about ? You do realize that Social Security is normally something that people in their 60’s and older receive ? So you either think that people 60 and older receiving their Social Security checks are making younger women somehow abort less or that older women will abort less when more money is given to Social Security. Either way, I have no idea of what you are talking about.
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Social security is: any government system that provides monetary assistance to people with an inadequate or no income.

The poor, homeless and starving. You suggested that poor Americans cannot concieve.
 
You honesty got THAT from what I said ? :rotfl:

P.S. That is NOT how Social Security works.
 
Rachellem56 said:
Double posting because I somehow was logged out while editing my first post.

This is opinion, not fact. Here’s one small example: each google search produces the same amount of CO2 as a pot of boiling water, multiply that by the billions of people with internet access who conduct searches multiple times per day, then multiply each day by 365. Consider also the yearly rate of deforestation, which takes away plants whose oxygen offset the CO2 which, by the way warms up the atmosphere. A lot of human activities, such as farming, have changed within the last century in order to be more profitable, while simultaneously producing more greenhouse gases.There are many other examples of activities which accelerate climate change, but you can’t tell me that the hole in the ozone layer isn’t a blatant warning sign to us humans. Scientists have warned that the earth is heading for its sixth mass extinction event, mainly caused by human activity. Climate change also directly endangers humans, as it endangers our food sources, increases our susceptibility to and mortality from various diseases, in addition to directly spreading other diseases. Denial of climate change is really just sticking your head in the sand, and it will endanger you, your children, and your children’s children.
  1. That was a great red herring.
  2. You know that human activities and practices have actually altered the environment for the better as well, right? For example that hole in the ozone layer began to close up after CFCs from hairsprays and appliances were banned. Additionally, science has made fantastic strides in new sources of clean energy (hello, jobs!) and reducing waste.
  3. I highly suggest watching some documentaries and reading scientific literature on the subject with an open mind. Some of these facts I’m spouting I learned from a college class.
  4. If God gave us this earth, should we not take care of it?
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Exactly.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Social security is: any government system that provides monetary assistance to people with an inadequate or no income.

The poor, homeless and starving. You suggested that poor Americans cannot concieve.
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I think something got lost in translation perhaps. Social Security in the USA basically exclusively refers to the program for.retirees. Social Services is an option closer to your intention from an American viewpoint.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Medicare, Medicaid, Healthcare all fall under social security. Any programs that help the poor is called Social Security.
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Not in the US, where a large percentage of posters here are from. So your usage of Social Security is akin to trying to use “gay” as “happy” in a modern conversation for most people here. Social Programs, Social Services, those are terms more easily recognized as what you mean by Americans.
 
meltzerboy said:
The poster was referring to older women.
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You TeenCatholicGuy said:
" But that isn’t true. I already shared the definition of “Social Security”. Many poor families would be happy to correct you .

They need support."

Don’t tell meltzerboy that what he told you wasn’t true. He told you the truth,
that was EXACTLY what I said.
 
TeenCatholicGuy said:
Medicare, Medicaid, Healthcare all fall under social security. Any programs that help the poor is called Social Security.
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Technically you are correct with regard to disabled children, spouses of deceased workers, and so on; however, in common practice in the US, Social Security checks are distributed to retirees in their 60’s, and that is what the other poster’s comment referred to.
 
mVitus said:
Not in the US, where a large percentage of posters here are from. So your usage of Social Security is akin to trying to use “gay” as “happy” in a modern conversation for most people here. Social Programs, Social Services, those are terms more easily recognized as what you mean by Americans.
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Yes. As soon as you said Social Security everyone thinks retirement. Your talking about welfare, or being “on the dole”, or income redistribution, or government give away programs.
 
robertmidwest said:
Yes. As soon as you said Social Security everyone thinks retirement. Your talking about welfare, or being “on the dole”, or income redistribution, or government give away programs.
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Can we just get on topic?
 
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