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Michael68
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I didn’t read this on any source. I watched it myself
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Michael68
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The Mexican president made the STATEMENT, “Mexico will not pay for the wall.”
Question: How in the world is this a discussion?
The Clinton media are really grasping at straws!!!
Question: How in the world is this a discussion?
The Clinton media are really grasping at straws!!!
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Little_Sheep
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Maybe she’ll drop dead in the middle of the final debate! Deus Ex Machina…
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Little_Sheep
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Why should she exert herself unduly when Trump is beating himself? Saving her energy for the actual office - a wise decision.
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Little_Sheep
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There’s already a wall on our Southern border. Trump’s key platform to make it “BIG and BEAUTIFUL” is beyond silly. It will never happen and he knows it.
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gilliam
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Not really, talk to people who live by the border or see this article
dfw.cbslocal.com/2016/01/01/completing-border-wall-would-be-daunting-task/
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Michael68
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Really? So I didn’t see a bunch of open border on MSNBC today?
My lyin eyes!
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Little_Sheep
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I know quite a few people who live on our Southern border. I’m not saying the wall is perfect. Mr. Trump will do nothing to build a better wall. He’s just dog-whistling.
We certainly don’t need to spend gazillions of dollars on a “big beautiful wall that Mexico will pay for.” I count that statement as nonsense.
We need to spend time and effort coming together for a path to citizenship for many who have been living here productively for quite some time (like Reagan did), while also spending time and effort sending the worst of those who sneak in with vile intentions away (like Obama does).
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sallybutler
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That’s what I thought I was saying. To win 1 dollar by betting on Clinton, you have to bet $450. To win $1 by betting on Trump, you have to bet $0.0028 or 1/4 of a penny. Trump is a longshot at 350 to 1, Clinton the favorite at 1 to 450, and the others are really really longshots at 2500 to 1.
The ponies only do a max of 99 to 1
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Michael68
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Great speech by Trump tonight!
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Millie123
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I watched the whole thing and I still dont see Mexicos President mutually agreeing with Trump to build a border wall. I do agree with you though that it does look very bad on Hillary to not go to this meeting with Mexico’s President. He invited both candidates to attend. It was a very poor decision by her to not go there
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Sy_Noe
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“Mainstream media is mass media that influences a large number of people and both reflects and shapes prevailing currents of thought. It may be contrasted with alternative media which may contain content with more dissenting thought.”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mainstream_media
So you don’t think FOX influences a large number of people but instead is alternative? Why put faith in a FOX poll then if they are not mainstream but instead are some sort of an alternative organization?
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Michael68
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Its the alternative that reaches large numbers yes.Not as many as the other networks combined
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Sy_Noe
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Little Sheep, you are living in a past Republican universe I am afraid to bring up what Reagan did But otherwise I agree.
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lmachine
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It can be confusing because there are different odds systems. The -450 Clinton, +325 Trump odds are based on $100. Clinton is the favorite: bet $450 on her and you’ll win $100. Trump’s the underdog: bet $100 on him and you’ll win $325.
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DeniseNY
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Hillary Clinton’s post-convention lead has disappeared, putting her behind Donald Trump for the first time nationally since mid-July
rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2016/white_house_watch
meltzerboy
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Isn’t Rasmussen usually an outlier? However, I’ve thought from the start that the race would tighten and, in the end, be very close.
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adowcday
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Rasmussen Reports tends to have a GOP bias and was not very accurate in 2010 and 2012. Most polls continue to show a Clinton lead. At any rate, I wouldn’t rely on any single poll, particularly at this stage of the campaign.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rasmussen_Reports
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Sy_Noe
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Means very little. Over time, polls have shown the best Trump has mustered is a dead heat and basically a 1% lead is just that. While Clinton has led in most polls and as Adowcday said still is. All this recent shift in national percentages might amount to is Clinton’s convention bounce has worn off and we are now merely getting back to the norm of a closer popular vote. The country has been divided for this entire century and as Meltzerboy said a close popular vote is quite possible. But ask Al Gore what it gets you to win the popular vote. Bush lost it in 2000. Bush only won by 2% in 2004. Obama by 4 in 2012. But it’s all about 270 electoral votes. And it doesn’t matter if Clinton wins a swing state by 1% or 10%. she would still get the electoral votes. And forecasts still have her with a comfortable electoral college lead. Today projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/?ex_cid=rrpromo has her winning the popular vote by 5. But still with an electoral landslide with 321 electoral votes. That’s close to the Obama electoral landslides. And the conservative National Review has said as things stand now, Trump’s electoral math is bordering on impossibly narrow to unworkable.
nationalreview.com/article/439466/donald-trump-electoral-map-paths-270-impossibly-narrow
I understand conservatives and Republicans need to hang their hat on anything they can. But there are still the debates and lets see if Trump can muster a good lead in most polls and swing states yet. Time will tell.
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Al_Moritz
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National poll: Clinton up 7 points on Trump
Hillary Clinton holds a seven-point head-to-head advantage over Donald Trump in the latest national Suffolk University/USA Today poll out Thursday, leading by the same margin in a four-way matchup as well.
The Democratic nominee earned the support of 48 percent of the 1,000 likely voters surveyed by landlines and cellphones from Aug. 24-29, with an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Trump, meanwhile, earned 41 percent, nearly the same share both candidates earned in a Fox News poll released Wednesday evening but conducted over a shorter time period of Sunday through Tuesday.
The margin is also consistent with the seven-point lead Clinton held over Trump in the latest Monmouth University national poll, conducted between Aug. 25 and Sunday.
Trump, who has usually outperformed Clinton among men, clings to a one-point edge over the former secretary of state, 44 percent to 43 percent. And among women, Clinton leads by 16 points—54 percent to 38 percent.
Among white voters, Trump leads 49 percent to 41 percent, while Clinton leads by 41 points among Hispanic voters (65 percent to 24 percent) and by 87 points among black voters (91 percent to 4 percent).
Majorities of those backing either Trump (80 percent) or Clinton (62 percent) said they would feel “scared” if the other candidate wins in November.
But fewer supporters of either major candidate said they would be “excited” if their person wins, with 27 percent of Clinton supporters and 29 percent of Trump supporters saying they would feel that way. The majority opinion for both candidates’ supporters should they win: “satisfied,” with 52 percent of Trump supporters responding with that description and 62 percent of Clinton supporters.
In the four-way matchup, Clinton received 42 percent, Trump earned 35 percent, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson took 9 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein received 3 percent, with 10 percent undecided among those candidates.
Hillary Clinton holds a seven-point head-to-head advantage over Donald Trump in the latest national Suffolk University/USA Today poll out Thursday, leading by the same margin in a four-way matchup as well.
The Democratic nominee earned the support of 48 percent of the 1,000 likely voters surveyed by landlines and cellphones from Aug. 24-29, with an overall margin of error of plus or minus 3 percentage points. Trump, meanwhile, earned 41 percent, nearly the same share both candidates earned in a Fox News poll released Wednesday evening but conducted over a shorter time period of Sunday through Tuesday.
The margin is also consistent with the seven-point lead Clinton held over Trump in the latest Monmouth University national poll, conducted between Aug. 25 and Sunday.
Trump, who has usually outperformed Clinton among men, clings to a one-point edge over the former secretary of state, 44 percent to 43 percent. And among women, Clinton leads by 16 points—54 percent to 38 percent.
Among white voters, Trump leads 49 percent to 41 percent, while Clinton leads by 41 points among Hispanic voters (65 percent to 24 percent) and by 87 points among black voters (91 percent to 4 percent).
Majorities of those backing either Trump (80 percent) or Clinton (62 percent) said they would feel “scared” if the other candidate wins in November.
But fewer supporters of either major candidate said they would be “excited” if their person wins, with 27 percent of Clinton supporters and 29 percent of Trump supporters saying they would feel that way. The majority opinion for both candidates’ supporters should they win: “satisfied,” with 52 percent of Trump supporters responding with that description and 62 percent of Clinton supporters.
In the four-way matchup, Clinton received 42 percent, Trump earned 35 percent, Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson took 9 percent and Green Party nominee Jill Stein received 3 percent, with 10 percent undecided among those candidates.
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