Comedian Michelle Wolf sparks fury, debate with roast at correspondents' dinner

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F_Marturana said:
People defended his tweets about Mika Brezenski bleeding from a facelift. When that’s defended, then one can’t clutch pearls.
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Who defended it? It was mean, and he shouldn’t have said it. But you can’t excuse the foul-mouthed and mean-spirited comedienne by talking about what Trump said about Mika Brzezinski.
 
I think what we seeing here is that the nouveau Puritans of the left don’t really mind obscene language, what they really mind is that Trump isn’t following their playbook. For 8 years the left could say anything obscene, malicious thing they wanted about GW Bush and be confident that he wouldn’t fight back. That he would just shut up and take it. Trump isn’t like that. He’s like his blue collar supporters (who used to be the base of the Democrat party) who aren’t afraid to hit back. He follows the advice of his predecessor to “punch back twice as hard”. It’s very disconcerting for bullies when they find they no longer intimidate.
 
jagged said:
Nah, we just don’t like rape jokes unlike wherever Ridgerunner lives, where they seem to be common fodder in the barbershop.
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A total invention. Never said that or anything like it. Typical liberal improvisation when you don’t have anything worthwhile to say.
 
Looks like Michelle may have responses to the criticisms coming on NPR.
NPR:
NPR’s Terry Gross spoke with comedian Michelle Wolf about her performance at the White House Correspondent’s Dinner this weekend in an interview that will air Tuesday, May 1 on WHYY’s Fresh Air.

Stations and broadcast times are available at NPR.org/stations; podcast will be available by 4:30pm EST on May 1. Excerpts will air on All Things Considered tonight and on the NPR Politics podcast special that drops this evening.
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For now they only have excerpts available. This was the most relevant one.

When asked if she’s surprised at the level of controversy over her performance:
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Wolf:
I wasn’t expecting this level, but I’m also not disappointed there’s this level. I knew what I was doing going in. I wanted to do something different. I didn’t want to cater to the room. I wanted to cater to the outside audience, and not betray my brand of comedy. I actually, a friend of mine who helped me write, he gave me a note before I went on which I kept with me which was, “Be true to yourself. Never apologize. Burn it to the ground.”
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Gross:
When you say you didn’t want to cater to the room, you didn’t want to betray who you are as a comic, what would it have meant to cater to the room and how would that have betrayed who you are as a comic?
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Wolf:
I think a lot of it and what I’ve seen in the past is they poke little fun, they kind of poke fun at deeper dives in news media. They’ll go kind of table by table pointing at people and making fun of them, in a way that I think used to be fun because the dinner used to have the president there, it used to be we’re all poking fun of each other, the president’s going to poke fun at us, we’re going to hit back. Now it seems like it’s a much more serious environment and to kind of not go after the big issues and just have a little fun in the room seemed just not as exciting to me.
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Comedy has devolved into a blood sport in the US thanks to popular media and news outlets who prefer slime and scandal to truth. Sells better.
Who cares what she says
Never heard of her anyway.
 
Tulitas said:
Comedy has devolved into a blood sport in the US
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I think you can find a fairly wide spectrum of comedy in the USA. While there’s comedy one might metaphorically refer to as a blood sport I don’t think that’s the case on comedy in USA in general. It may all depend on from where you consume your comedic media.
Tulitas said:
Who cares what she says
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I myself am genuinely curious as to what her response may be. Some other people may or may not be, I can only speak for myself on that.
Tulitas said:
Never heard of her anyway.
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She’s usually worked as a writer. Even if you had encountered her work before there’s a good chance it didn’t have her name on it.
 
jagged said:
A total invention. Never said that or anything like it. Typical liberal improvisation when you don’t have anything worthwhile to say.

Well, you’re the one that is confused why the FBI beginning an investigation based on the braggings of George Papadopoulos about Russians having dirt on Clinton, so I’m not sure you are qualified to properly determine the intent of Trump’s statements.
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A total departure from what I said. But regardless “having dirt on Clinton” is not a crime.
 
jagged said:
You said that having dirt on Clinton isn’t a crime but, somehow can’t figure out why, in conjunction with stolen emails from a server, this might trigger an investigation.
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Trump never had dirt on Clinton. Wikileaks had dirt on the DNC and released it. Nobody has yet established that any emails were “stolen” because the DNC won’t let anybody examine their server. If the DNC really believed that, they would be happy to let the FBI verify it. But they don’t believe it.

It’s just as likely some disgruntled Sanders supporter simply downloaded from the DNC computer and sent it to Assange. It’s more likely this is what the DNC believes actually happened, and that’s why they won’t let the FBI look at the computer.
 
Thread topic. What Michelle Wolf said was pretty vile. Response liberals, What Michelle said is ok because Trump is worse.

It’s Trump’s fault.
 
Trump joked about hoping the Russians had the missing Clinton emails in front of the whole world.
If you’re talking about Papadopoulos, he was hardly a “key campaign leader”. he made the drunken mistake of bragging to a left wing Australian correspondent who dropped him in the proverbial grease for his trouble. Ended up getting him a conviction, but not for that. Turns out of course that the campaign didn’t want to meet with Papadopoulos’ supposed Russian “contact”, and didn’t.

So there never was any “dirt” in Papadopoulos’ hands or anybody elses’ other than the Clinton campaign’s.
 
"I think you can find a fairly wide spectrum of comedy in the USA. While there’s comedy one might metaphorically refer to as a blood sport I don’t think that’s the case on comedy in USA in general. It may all depend on from where you consume your comedic media.

Comedy, in general has mostly been about making fun of people sometimes one’s own self, but it tends to be a socially acceptable way to criticize others.

Here’s a good article on what makes something “funny”

www.newyorker.com

A Quest to Understand What Makes Things Funny

Since antiquity, people have hunted for a formula that explains humor. Peter McGraw thinks he has found it.
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qui_est_ce said:
Thread topic. What Michelle Wolf said was pretty vile. Response liberals, What Michelle said is ok because Trump is worse.

It’s Trump’s fault.
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That’s not exactly an accurate summary of the discussion.

Read back over what was actually posted. You’ll find a fair amount of diversity of opinion among what “the liberals” actually said, and less Trump-blaming than you think.
 
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