Commentary: Islam was a religion of love, and the Taj Mahal proves it

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ProdigalSun said:
The Taj Ma Hal proves nothing about the Love in Islam. Ripping out the eyes of the builder certainly does however. Many popes have taught that all three Abrahamic faiths believe and worship the same good. THay have also taught at the same time that their understanding of God is incomplete (with the Jews) and downright corrupted and heretical (by Islam). Posters that only take a bit of what JPII and BVIX about this subject and ignore the rest are being disingenuous at best and deceiving at worst. Islam’s & Bahai"s understanding of God is so far removed form the truth of Catholcism that they appear as two different God’s but they get at least one thing correct, There is only one true God.

Peace!👍
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I knew very little about the Taj Mahal until now on this forum, but now the only thing that I will remember will be the Ripping out the eyes part. :o
 
ProdigalSun said:
The Taj Ma Hal proves nothing about the Love in Islam. Ripping out the eyes of the builder certainly does however. Many popes have taught that all three Abrahamic faiths believe and worship the same good. THay have also taught at the same time that their understanding of God is incomplete (with the Jews) and downright corrupted and heretical (by Islam). Posters that only take a bit of what JPII and BVIX about this subject and ignore the rest are being disingenuous at best and deceiving at worst. Islam’s & Bahai"s understanding of God is so far removed form the truth of Catholcism that they appear as two different God’s but they get at least one thing correct, There is only one true God.

Peace!👍
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This just Proves people like myths more than facts.

“Many of the historians find this horror story false and baseless as no records or evidence has been found yet that claims the possibility of it happening in those days”.

tajmahal.org.uk/legends/mutilation.html

With God there is only Love and Unity.

Supporting the Love is connected to Islam as per the OP, it must be considered that this is also part of this building;

“Passages from Quran have been used as decorative elements throughout the complex and On the sides of the actual tomb of Mumtaz Mahal, 99 names of Allah can be found as calligraphic inscriptions”.

Regards Tony
 
TonyBS said:
This just Proves people like myths more than facts.

“Many of the historians find this horror story false and baseless as no records or evidence has been found yet that claims the possibility of it happening in those days”.

tajmahal.org.uk/legends/mutilation.html

With God there is only Love and Unity.

Supporting the Love is connected to Islam as per the OP, it must be considered that this is also part of this building;

“Passages from Quran have been used as decorative elements throughout the complex and On the sides of the actual tomb of Mumtaz Mahal, 99 names of Allah can be found as calligraphic inscriptions”.

Regards Tony
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ISIS is the face of Islam, all the pretty architecture in the world won’t change that. ISIS leaders and followers believe that their interpretation of the Koran is the correct one. They read what the Koran says and then follow it to the letter. I’m not sure how any Muslim can say these people are not true muslims. They are are as true to Islam as any that I can tell. Even more so! This is how I can tell if Islam is a religion of Love, not from some building with selective text in it. By there fruits you shall know them!
 
ProdigalSun said:
ISIS is the face of Islam, all the pretty architecture in the world won’t change that. ISIS leaders and followers believe that their interpretation of the Koran is the correct one. They read what the Koran says and then follow it to the letter. I’m not sure how any Muslim can say these people are not true muslims. They are are as true to Islam as any that I can tell. Even more so! This is how I can tell if Islam is a religion of Love, not from some building with selective text in it. By there fruits you shall know them!
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Your own passages said it all. No fruits not followers of Gods Word.

Regards Tony
 
Is a Baha’i believer at liberty to share their faith in a Muslim country such as Iran?
…I used to work with a guy who married a girl of the Baha’i religion & I talked to her family at the reception.
…They told me they were basically DRIVEN out of their home country or be killed.

Any religion that does not allow a person of another religion to share with others why they think it’s the right way ISN’T a religion of loving peace - it’s something else.
worldcitizen said:
My wife and I visited the Taj Mahal when we went to India many years ago and she is such a wonderful wife I would build her a Taj too so I understand how it does prove that love knows no boundaries and a Muslim can love just as much as anyone else and that beautiful building proves it.

I’m happy that this was brought up as often people forget that Muslims are people and know love too. But love is expressed in action here not so much in words.

The example of love invested by a Muslim proves that there is very deep and profound and eternal love within Islamic people. Often, when I have seen that building I have wished I could build one for my beautiful wife as she is so wonderful.

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Pythons said:
Is a Baha’i believer at liberty to share their faith in a Muslim country such as Iran?
…I used to work with a guy who married a girl of the Baha’i religion & I talked to her family at the reception.
…They told me they were basically DRIVEN out of their home country or be killed.

Any religion that does not allow a person of another religion to share with others why they think it’s the right way ISN’T a religion of loving peace - it’s something else.
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No they are not free, but that also does not prove what you are suggesting.

It just proves that a few people have got the Love of Muhammad Wrong.

Regards Tony
 
Really love those references to love from an Islamic point of view.

Where can I find an Islamic book online about love, containing the quotes here, where I can possibly download and keep it. They are very beautiful. Thanks.
 
Pythons said:
Is a Baha’i believer at liberty to share their faith in a Muslim country such as Iran?
…I used to work with a guy who married a girl of the Baha’i religion & I talked to her family at the reception.
…They told me they were basically DRIVEN out of their home country or be killed.

Any religion that does not allow a person of another religion to share with others why they think it’s the right way ISN’T a religion of loving peace - it’s something else.
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Yes Python you’re right in many ways. People who oppress others because of their beliefs are not truly religious. But it is not Islam which oppresses Baha’is but the government and religious leaders.

Muslims in Iran love the Baha’is very much and are deeply ashamed of what is being done to innocent people but the Baha’is are used as scapegoats to ensure Muslims are scared of rising up. So it is a very difficult situation for the average Muslim who is good and loving.

Even the Quran says there is to be freedom of religion so the clergy don’t even obey their own Holy Book. But the Muslims are good it’s only those in power are unfortunately committing evil deeds.
 
worldcitizen said:
For those Catholics here who feel that Muslims are not loving as there is persecution of Baha’is I found this example of what looks like Muslims publishing the plight of Baha’is in Iran. This appears to be a non Bahai website as they claim not to be associated with Baha’is.

iranpresswatch.org
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Not one Catholic believe Muslims don’t love. 🙂

MJ
 
TonyBS said:
It just proves that a few people have got the Love of Muhammad Wrong.

Regards Tony
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Can you help me with this?

Was Mohammed aware of this?: “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.”

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Not one Catholic believe Muslims don’t love. 🙂

MJ
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I think what should be clarified is the meaning of the word religion.

It sounds bizarre that pretty much every Baha’i who has lived in Iran has suffered some form of persecution from the Islamic government, yet still if they were asked to deny Muhammad as a Manifestation of God, they wouldn’t, even if they were to be killed.

Why would Bahais do this?

Simply because there is a difference between the religion of Muhammad taught clearly in the Quran and the religion of Muhammad practiced by a populace of Muslims today.

As should be the case, we should look at the loving example Muhammad gave in His life and the teachings He brought, especially the Covenants He revealed towards Christians.

There is no difference whatsoever between what Muhammad taught to the tribes of Arabia, and what Moses taught to the tribes of Israel…

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Servant19 said:
I think what should be clarified is the meaning of the word religion.

It sounds bizarre that pretty much every Baha’i who has lived in Iran has suffered some form of persecution from the Islamic government, yet still if they were asked to deny Muhammad as a Manifestation of God, they wouldn’t, even if they were to be killed.

Why would Bahais do this?

Simply because there is a difference between the religion of Muhammad taught clearly in the Quran and the religion of Muhammad practiced by a populace of Muslims today.

As should be the case, we should look at the loving example Muhammad gave in His life and the teachings He brought, especially the Covenants He revealed towards Christians.

There is no difference whatsoever between what Muhammad taught to the tribes of Arabia, and what Moses taught to the tribes of Israel…

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So what question are you answering?

MJ
 
MartinJordan said:
Can you help me with this?

Was Mohammed aware of this?: “This is how we know what love is: Jesus Christ laid down his life for us. And we ought to lay down our lives for our brothers and sisters.”

MJ
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Hi Martin,

I think there was an awareness of such things. Serving as an example for all Muslims was a directive from Allah to Muhammad, and there are many many Muslim scholars who saw it as a loving example:
Prophet Muhammad is a perfect example for all people, especially for those who believe in God and the Day of Judgment. As a matter of fact, this matter is clearly stated in the following verse: "Verily in the Messenger of Allah you have a good example for him who looks unto Allah and the Last Day, and remembers Allah much." (6)
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When the exemplary life of Prophet Muhammad is observed, it can be seen that he presented the most beautiful examples of being sincerely committed to God, obeying God’s orders with love, sharing the pain of the people, helping people merely for the pleasure of Allah, turning this deed into a pleasure of the heart, loving and respecting people merely because they are human, and showing mercy when in a position of power.
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lastprophet.info/why-we-should-love-the-prophet
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Obviously after many centuries of Jesus’ life being known to the people of Arabia, this teaching of love was not understood. God in His wisdom, chose Muhammad to be the recipient of this teaching to at least advance these people from the depths of degeneration into a pathway of humility and forbearance.

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Servant19 said:
Apologies Martin, your post invoked some thoughts on the general direction of the thread on this current page.

Sorry for any confusion 🙂
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Ok but that whole post is confusing in itself. Especially:
As should be the case, we should look at the loving example Muhammad gave in His life and the teachings He brought, especially the Covenants He revealed towards Christians.
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Any Islamic link to what you mean about this Love that is A Covenant? Because the commandments by Jesus spoke already about the New Covenant in His Blood. Which we follow today and have daily reflection on it.

Just some thoughts.

God bless

MJ
 
Servant19 said:
Hi Martin,

I think there was an awareness of such things. Serving as an example for all Muslims was a directive from Allah to Muhammad, and there are many many Muslim scholars who saw it as a loving example:

Obviously after many centuries of Jesus’ life being known to the people of Arabia, this teaching of love was not understood. God in His wisdom, chose Muhammad to be the recipient of this teaching to at least advance these people from the depths of degeneration into a pathway of humility and forbearance.

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The choice some people take against Jesus New Covenant they will have to answer on the last day. The sheep will be separated from the goats . We must work out our Salvation with fear and trembling.

Love one another as I have loved you. That is an everlasting Covenant.

MJ
 
Servant19 said:
Obviously after many centuries of Jesus’ life being known to the people of Arabia, this teaching of love was not understood. God in His wisdom, chose Muhammad to be the recipient of this teaching to at least advance these people from the depths of degeneration into a pathway of humility and forbearance.

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If the teaching of love wasn’t understood , how and why is Christianity what it is today?
 
JimmyDFG said:
If the teaching of love wasn’t understood , how and why is Christianity what it is today?
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There is a world of answers within that question, way off topic 😉

Pure Love = One God

Then we have all other aspects of Love that lead us to One God, Building the Taj Mahal for Love of a wife is one of those Loves, to Inscribe it with Quotes from the Religion you Love is another ;).

Regards Tony
 
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