Communion in the hand...END IT!

[CMatt25]

It is disrespectablebecause I take CITH? Give me a serious break. At the last supper did Jesus give the disciples communion in the tongue?

Tweetymom, give someone enough time. I’m sure someone will post a pic showing he did.

 

[ProVobis]

This reverence for the Blessed Sacrament, and even for the smallest particles, was incorporated into the traditional Mass — the Old Latin Mass — which contained strict rubrics on this point:

1. From the moment the priest pronounces the words of the Consecration over the Sacred Host, the priest keeps his forefinger and thumb together on each hand. Whether he elevates the chalice, or turns the pages of the missal, or opens the tabernacle, his thumb and his forefinger on each hand are closed. The thumb and forefinger touch nothing but the Sacred Host;

1. During Holy Communion, the altar boy holds the paten under the chin of those receiving Communion, so that the slightest particle does not fall to the ground. This paten is cleaned into the chalice afterwards;

1. After Holy Communion is distributed, the priest scrapes the corporal (the small linen cloth on the altar) with the paten, and cleans it into the chalice so that if the slightest particle is left, it is collected and consumed by the priest;

1. Then, the priest washes his thumb and forefinger over the chalice with water and wine, and this water and wine is reverently consumed to insure that the smallest particle of the Sacred Host is not susceptible to desecration.

**Communion in the hand and so-called Eucharist lay-ministers make a mockery of the Divine Truth that Our Lord is truly present in every particle of the Eucharist, and make a mockery of the holy rubrics used by the Church for centuries as a safeguard against desecration.
**
Because what happens with Communion in the hand?

The Host is placed in the hand, which is not consecrated. The communicant picks It up with his own fingers, which are not consecrated. The sacred particles fall to the ground, are stepped upon and desecrated.

Likewise with so-called Eucharistic lay-ministers, their hands are not consecrated; they should not be touching the Sacred Host. The sacred particles of the Host fall to the ground, are stepped upon and desecrated. The fingers of “lay-Eucharistic ministers” are not washed, so any particle remaining will also be desecrated.

No authority in the Church, not even the highest, can dispense a Catholic from the duty of preserving the necessary reverence owed to Our Lord in the Blessed Sacrament. Any Church leader who does so labors under the “diabolic disorientation of the upper hierarchy” warned against by Sister Lucy of Fatima, and is derelict in his duty.

Only forty-five years ago, Communion in the hand was unthinkable in Catholic churches. It was recognized for the sacrilege that it is. Only forty-five years ago, Eucharistic lay-ministers were unthinkable in Catholic churches. It was recognized for the sacrilege that it is.

But now, these abuses are permitted and promoted by a liberal hierarchy who — in this area and in many other areas — suddenly approve what the Church always rightly condemned. This “suddenly blessing what the Church always condemned” is the hallmark of the Vatican II reforms.

The truth, however, is that God does not change, and man’s duty of reverence toward the Blessed Sacrament does not change, even if we have many leaders who in their destructive liberalization of the Catholic Church, seem to care little or nothing for the true reverence we owe to Our Lord in the Holy Eucharist.

Thus, anyone who receives Communion in the hand, or who receives Communion from a Eucharistic lay-minister, or who is a Eucharistic lay-minister himself or herself — in the objective order — is committing a sacrilege. It is a misuse of a holy thing.** It is a mockery of what the Church has taught and practiced. It is a desecration of the greatest gift that God has given us: the Real Presence of Our Lord Jesus Christ in the Most Holy Eucharist.**

cfnews.org/sacrilege.htm

 

[tweetymom]

You are showing great disrespect to those who receive on the tougue. And at the Last Supper, no one had a video camera so we do not know.

I am not showing disrespect to anyone at all. If you and others want to recieve in the tongue it is of no importance to me nor I think to Jesus if some of us choose CITH. The important thing is that you recieve with a clean heart.

 

[tweetymom]

You are showing great disrespect to those who receive on the tougue. And at the Last Supper, no one had a video camera so we do not know.

Nor do weknow if they did

 

[tweetymom]

Whoever takes COTT why would I care, or CITH why would I care. If you take communion either way it is not important just that you take communion. Who are you or I to be anyones judge?

 

[michaeldaniels]

A) Even if the apostles did receive in the hand, they were the equivalent of our modern day bishops and The Pope (Peter) and therefore they, being Consecrated can touch the Host with their hands
B) The views you hold and publicly spout make it disrespectful for you to receive in The Catholic Church regardless whether or not it is on the tongue or in hand
C) By your previous posts, I am assuming you are non-Catholic, which if that is the case, it isn’t Communion for you…it is just cookies and juice

It is disrespectablebecause I take CITH? Give me a serious break. At the last supper did Jesus give the disciples communion in the tongue?

 

[tweetymom]

A) Even if the apostles did receive in the hand, they were the equivalent of our modern day bishops and The Pope (Peter) and therefore they, being Consecrated can touch the Host with their hands
B) The views you hold and publicly spout make it disrespectful for you to receive in The Catholic Church regardless whether or not it is on the tongue or in hand
C) By your previous posts, I am assuming you are non-Catholic, which if that is the case, it isn’t Communion for you…it is just cookies and juice

thank you for your judgement call very much appreciated. Sure am glad you are trying to be God.

 

[tweetymom]

A) Even if the apostles did receive in the hand, they were the equivalent of our modern day bishops and The Pope (Peter) and therefore they, being Consecrated can touch the Host with their hands
B) The views you hold and publicly spout make it disrespectful for you to receive in The Catholic Church regardless whether or not it is on the tongue or in hand
C) By your previous posts, I am assuming you are non-Catholic, which if that is the case, it isn’t Communion for you…it is just cookies and juice

I take communion every Sat. and am a EMC along with my husband.

 

[michaeldaniels]

What??? Let’s break it down:

A) undisputable
B) if you are a Catholic, then you should be aware that you should not present yourself if you are not a practicing Catholic and meet the requirements—Im not judging you, just trying to help you by offering you information in case you didn’t know…only you can be the judge of whether or not you are in state to be able to receive Communion
C) undisputable fact as well

thank you for your judgement call very much appreciated. Sure am glad you are trying to be God.

 

[michaeldaniels]

St. Michael The Archangel, Defend us in battle…

I take communion every Sat. and am a EMC along with my husband.

 

[ProVobis]

…
Why are people receiving Communion in the hand?
Why are there lay-ministers of the Eucharist?
Why were these things changed?
If things were changed for the sake of “modern times” and “modern man”, has it resulted in record crowds of “modern men” flocking into our churches to pray and receive the Sacraments?
Do we have record turnouts in our seminaries, monasteries and convents?
Has the introduction of these new things increased the amount of vocations in the Church?
Was there a “vocation crisis” before these essential and fundamental things were changed?
In the Rubrics of the Old Rite of Mass, why was there such precaution taken against the desecration of the Sacred Species?
Why did the priest scrape the corporal with the paten so as not to allow even the slightest minute particle to fall to the ground and be desecrated?
Why did these rubrics disappear?
Was there more love and reverence before the “renewal”? Was there more faith in the Real Presence before the “renewal”?
Was there a deeper and greater understanding and appreciation of the Blessed Sacrament as really and truly being the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ under the appearance of bread and wine?
Were the old rubrics simply “over scrupulous”?
Did the old rubrics and strict laws safeguarding reverence, dignity, and holiness, not express the Catholic Faith regarding the Blessed Sacrament properly?
Do we now understand and believe in it in a different manner, and is this therefore manifested by the actions of first the clergy, and then the laity? Are we afraid to adore the Sacred Host?
Are we ashamed to adore the Sacred Host?
Is it any coincidence that Benediction of the Blessed Sacrament began to fade away more and more with the introduction of Communion in the hand, and lay ministers of the Eucharist?
Has Catholic teaching changed regarding Transubstantiation, that is, the changing of the bread and wine into the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ during the Sacrifice of the Mass?
If the teaching has not changed, why has attitude, spirit, rubrics, and practice changed?
Where did Communion in the hand come from since it is nowhere proposed or even mentioned in the documents of Vatican II?
Why did it still come about on a worldwide scale even after Pope Paul VI in the 1969 letter to the Bishops, Memoriale Domini stated “This method, ‘on the tongue’ must be retained”?
If it is supposed to be “optional,” why are the little children in most parochial schools taught no other way than receiving in the hand as “this is the way it is done”?
Why is there a new attitude of “anyone can handle It”?
Have we created a “vicious cycle” or a “cause and effect” situation where radical changes are introduced, vocations drop as a result, and then more changes such a “lay ministers of the Eucharist” are introduced appealing to their need because of the “vocation crisis”?
Is it possible there may be forces at work to undermine the priesthood?
Is it possible there may be forces at work to Protestantize the Catholic Church?
Is it possible there may be forces at work to destroy the Catholic Church?
Do Catholic authorities and educators not know that Communion in the hand was condemned by the Synod of Rouen in 650 A.D. to halt widespread abuses that occurred from this practice, and as a safeguard against sacrilege?
Are Catholic authorities unaware of Saint Thomas Aquinas’ teaching that only the consecrated (hands of the priest) should touch the consecrated (Sacred Host)? Summa Pt. III, Q. 82 ART #3.
Are Church authorities unaware that Protestant denominations beginning with Martin Luther in the 16th century re-introduced Communion in the hand to manifest their belief once and for all that there is no such thing as Transubstantiation and Holy Orders, and the bread used during services is just ordinary bread, and the minister is just an ordinary man with no God-given power to consecrate?
Are Catholic authorities unaware that during ritualistic Satan worship, there must be a consecrated Host for the diabolic black mass, where It is profaned in the most horrendous and immoral way possible?
Are Catholic authorities unaware that the introduction of Communion in the hand, and the “anyone can handle It” attitude easily accommodates those who wish to acquire It for evil purposes? Do they care?
Is it a manifestation of disrespect or disobedience to present these hard but sober and valid questions?
Or is it a matter of genuine concern to preserve and defend the reverence, dignity, and holiness due to the greatest treasure the Catholic Church possesses, and the greatest gift given us by God: the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity of Jesus Christ in the Most Blessed Sacrament?

- Christian Order, December 1998, pages 587-589, used with kind permission.

latin-mass-society.org/commwhy.htm

 

[michaeldaniels]

I want to know your honest opinion…Do you believe, without a shadow of a doubt, In the Real Presence in the Eucharist…furthermore, are you willing to stake your life that The Eucharist is fully The Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ?

I take communion every Sat. and am a EMC along with my husband.

 

[CMatt25]

Michael, sometimes assuming too much isn’t such a good thing.

 

[michaeldaniels]

Please tell me what I have assumed?

Michael, sometimes assuming too much isn’t such a good thing.

 

[CMatt25]

St. Michael The Archangel, Defend us in battle…

In battle with who? I don’t get it. Because Tweetymom and her husband are EMCs in the Church? Why battle that? I’d think that was a good thing.

 

[CMatt25]

Please tell me what I have assumed?

You assumed Tweetymom was non Catholic and here she’s an EMC.

 

[tweetymom]

I want to know your honest opinion…Do you believe, without a shadow of a doubt, In the Real Presence in the Eucharist…furthermore, are you willing to stake your life that The Eucharist is fully The Body, Blood, Soul, and Divinity of Christ?

Why wouldn’t I ? That is a very silly question. If I didn’t believe it I certainly wouldn’t Take it or give it. You must really think I am stupid.

 

[michaeldaniels]

I can’t speak for her husband…because I have never spoken to him…but in regards to her, she has clearly, time and time again stated she holds views in direct opposition to Catholic Theology, Tradition, Rome, and The Pope…and EXCUSE ME, If I have an issue without someone who holds heretical views touching The Most Blessed Sacrament and giving it to Catholics every weekend…to me that is a sacrilige and if that makes me a jerk or a rigid a-hole than so be it…this is an abomination.

And I can hear my detractors now…You are “judging” her…no I am not, Judgement is between the individual and God…however, when it comes to a clear and present abomination taking place IN MY CHURCH…furthermore, IN OUR CHURCH, then I have every right to speak out against it and get furious and there is something wrong if you don’t as well.

In battle with who? I don’t get it. Because Tweetymom and her husband are EMCs in the Church? Why battle that? I’d think that was a good thing.

 

[ProVobis]

Tweetymom, give someone enough time. I’m sure someone will post a pic showing he did.

Not necessary, we can show you pictures of microscopic particles all over the place because of sloppy practices. And communion in the hand is about as sloppy as it gets.

 

[michaeldaniels]

Then what about all the other Catholic Doctrines you choose to ignore or not follow or choose not to believe…why doesn’t that deter you??? This is an honest question…I really want to know what would motivate you considering you don’t believe a lot of The Church’s teachings…in addition, if all those teachings you oppose are in fact false, then how do you really know that Transubstantiation really takes place??? It could be a false belief as well…am I right?

If I didn’t believe it I certainly wouldn’t Take it or give it. You must really think I am stupid.