Comparing the Koran with the Bible

[jakasaki]

No its not twisted

and difference is that in islam Mary wasnt married,and she never got married…Jospeh doesnt exist

Place of Birth

The Jesus of the Bible is born in a manger of an Inn at Bethlehem

The Isa (Jesus) of Islam is born under a palm tree

 

[Tiffany_M_S]

I think I’ve read enough posts to understand, now. It’s not necessarily their faith that drives them to it.

Forgive me, but I was a little perplexed. Politics and religion are complicated things.

 

[bosnian_muslim]

Place of Birth

The Jesus of the Bible is born in a manger of an Inn at Bethlehem

The Isa (Jesus) of Islam is born under a palm tree

ok…what a huge difference,the story is the sdame…just different details

 

[rinnie]

No its not twisted

and difference is that in islam Mary wasnt married,and she never got married…Jospeh doesnt exist

bosnan, What we are taught is that the only reason the Blessed Mother was married to Joseph was because if she would not have been married in those days according to Jewish Law she would have been stoned.

What does you faith teach about the Jewish Law in those days?

 

[rinnie]

Place of Birth

The Jesus of the Bible is born in a manger of an Inn at Bethlehem

The Isa (Jesus) of Islam is born under a palm tree

Huh? Not in the RCC. We were taught no room in the Inn. We were taught that Jesus was born in a stable.

 

[jakasaki]

Huh? Not in the RCC. We were taught no room in the Inn. We were taught that Jesus was born in a stable.

Luke 2:
6While they were there, the time came for the baby to be born,

7and she gave birth to her firstborn, a son. She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger, because there was no room for them in the inn.

I would have to believe that Mother Mary & St. Joseph went to the Inn - there was no room -

The Romans were doing their “census” count.

Although it’s not defined & detailed in the Bible, one would have to believe the Inn had stables for their guests to put their horses/animals in there while they rest at the Inn.

In the stables, there have to have been “manger” where the animals would feed from.

Mother Mary wrapped Baby Jesus and placed in the manger - the manger was in the stable - the stable was located outside the Inn.

So, you are correct & I believe I am correct.

 

[jakasaki]

Huh? Not in the RCC. We were taught no room in the Inn. We were taught that Jesus was born in a stable.

We too were taught that there was no room at the inn.

I didn’t post that Jesus was born in the “inn”.

The Jesus of the Bible is born in a manger **of **an Inn at Bethlehem

There would be NO feeding troths inside the inn.

See my post #26:

The bottom line to our muslim member was that Our Lord Jesus Christ was not born “under” a palm tree.

 

[hamba2han]

I wanted to know why some “moderate” Christians pray to saints and angels and I tried to learn the answer by reading the Bible… but alas the Bible does not explain why.

The point is, for anyone who wish to know why “radical” Muslims wish to attack America, I do not think that the Qur’an will tell you the answer to this question… unless perhaps you are fond of taking verses out of context, then of course the Qur’an is replete with the “answers”.

 

[wwolverine]

No its not twisted

and difference is that in islam Mary wasnt married,and she never got married…Jospeh doesnt exist

You may know that like Jews even Muslims or Islam has the punishment for stoning woman, and Mary was just a young girl, and as you say she was not married but was with a child. How could Islam accept that?

God would never want this to happen and thats why Joseph is slected by God to marry Mary.

God Bless

 

[bosnian_muslim]

You may know that like Jews even Muslims or Islam has the punishment for stoning woman, and Mary was just a young girl, and as you say she was not married but was with a child. How could Islam accept that?

God would never want this to happen and thats why Joseph is slected by God to marry Mary.

God Bless

why wouldnt islam accept it? it is because it was Gods will,God knows she didnt commit anything wrong,so God protected her,and she stayed unmarried for the rest of her life,living with her relatives

 

[wwolverine]

ok…what a huge difference,the story is the sdame…just different details

Dont know what to say to your answer. as I am just

 

[wwolverine]

why wouldnt islam accept it? it is because it was Gods will,God knows she didnt commit anything wrong,so God protected her,and she stayed unmarried for the rest of her life,living with her relatives

Is that how its in islam?

 

[bosnian_muslim]

Is that how its in islam?

yes,she was a virgin,untouched by a man,when she became pregnant…so there is nothing to be punished for…God made the baby talk in front of the people,so the baby said that she didnt commit zina(sex before marriage)…after that she lived with her relatives

 

[jakasaki]

Dont know what to say to your answer. as I am just

 

[jakasaki]

yes,she was a virgin,untouched by a man,when she became pregnant…so there is nothing to be punished for…

God made the baby talk in front of the people,so the baby said that she didnt commit zina(sex before marriage)…after that she lived with her relatives

All I can offer to this is…

 

[jakasaki]

I wanted to know why some “moderate” Christians pray to saints and angels and I tried to learn the answer by reading the Bible… but alas the Bible does not explain why.

The point is, for anyone who wish to know why “radical” Muslims wish to attack America, I do not think that the Qur’an will tell you the answer to this question… unless perhaps you are fond of taking verses out of context, then of course the Qur’an is replete with the “answers”.

Oh… nice to see you back hamba…



We are not talking about “saints & angels”

And yes, I knew you were going to say “”" taking verses out of context"""

 

[bosnian_muslim]

All I can offer to this is…

thats also all i have to offer when hearing about the 3 men stories,with gifts and Joseph and all that

 

[jakasaki]

thats also all i have to offer when hearing about the 3 men stories,with gifts and Joseph and all that

So be it muslim sister… so be it…

If islam is true - Christianity is false
If Christianity is true - islam is false

They both cannot be "the truth" because they contradict each other…

I’m getting off CAF right now, because I’m exhausted…

Shall chat & pick up tomorrow… perhaps…!

Maybe by tomorrow CAF will have their ATT connections to their servers fixed…

 

[bosnian_muslim]

If islam is true - Christianity is false
If Christianity is true - islam is false

They both cannot be “the truth” because they contradict each other…

I never claimed anything else! thats true,there is only one truth…and im sure its islam

 

[anjoh66]

yes,she was a virgin,untouched by a man,when she became pregnant…so there is nothing to be punished for…God made the baby talk in front of the people,so the baby said that she didnt commit zina(sex before marriage)…after that she lived with her relatives

That is very gnostic, that Jesus spoke in the cradle is not mentioned in the bible, neither that he created a bird out of clay and gave it life.

It is mentioned in some apocryphic, gnostic gospels that was never accepted by the church because of the doubt about their authenticity.

If we submit to the fact that he did create a bird out of clay and gave it life, a question arises here that is very important.

Only God has ever created life out of clay, so what jesus did is exactly the same that God did in the beginning, still the Quran claims that Jesus is not God or divine.
Why then did he give life to dead clay just as God did?
The muslim will say that it was by Gods permission, but why should God allow him to do that? And for what purpose?

The only acceptable answer, if it ever happened, is that he wanted to demonstrate to the people who he really was, God incarnate. No other prophet has ever performed such a miracle, Moses did but it was temporarily, the snake later returned to be the staff of Moses, but the bird flew away and was never seen again.