Confused on the way to approach Gay Marriage

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People identify as gay tho and being gay means you have same-sex attraction. You cannot be gay without having same-sex attraction…?
 
That isnt what I am asking, do you think the church should marry same sex couples? Not should the church change it stance. There is a difference here.
 
I’m with you. I don’t understand why CIVIL gay marriage is something we fight against. So long as religious institutions aren’t being forced to perform religious ceremonies for gay couples… why should we fight civil gay marriage?
 
For the same reason we are called to evangelize.

As the priest says at the end of every mass: “Go forth the mass has ended.” – go out into the world and spread the good news.
 
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I also disagree with divorce. Should I also go around fighting to abolish divorce?

I also disagree with drinking. Should I be advocating to make alcohol illegal?

I also disagree with smoking. Should I be advocating to make smoking illegal?

I also disagree with Liberals. Should I be advocating to make Liberalism illegal?
 
You do not get to choose what Doctrines you believe or not. This is called being a “Cafeteria Catholic”. Marriage is between one man and one woman, and this is the way God has designed Marriage. The concept of gay “Marriage” doesn’t exist, because marriage is a Sacrament, not just a social construct like supporters of this evil practice suggest. You cannot deny then Church’s infallible teachings.
 
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I’m kind of the same boat as you I guess? As a Catholic I’m against same sex marriage because it goes against church teachings, but if you take God out of it (eg if atheism is true), I would support it amongst other things. So I’m in a tricky spot most of the time. Personally I would be honest and say that I personally struggle with the teaching but it’s not my place to define what’s moral or not.
 
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You should advocate whatever the Church teaches. Your own disagreements are yours and yours alone.
 
I feel it’s helpful if people know I live in a country where it’s ALREADY legal so I’m not sure how fighting to make it illegal helps the Church at this point.
 
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If the Church wanted to, it could re-interpret scripture and reverse doctrine on homosexuality which, frankly, is at the root of homophobia in the Western world.

(I’m not looking to cause offence and this isn’t intended to be blasphemous. I’m just trying to resolve centuries of heartache, anguish and suffering by gays. My heart is in the right place.)
Mark 7
15 There is nothing from without a man, that entering into him can defile him: but the things which come out of him, those are they that defile the man.

Ridiculous? Read Mark 7 in the context of Leviticus 18. Think of Jesus in Mark as Moses in Leviticus. Think of Leviticus 18 as laws to prevent deformed children.

Therefore, a man who lies with men, procreating with a woman causes abomination - a valid translation. Gays don’t procreate naturally, yet many have over the centuries. Gays have higher cancer rates and die younger. It’s not their life-style. It is genetic. We are the genetic garbage carriers. Ironically, gays are designed to perpetuate the species.

Why do you think cancer rates in the human population are now 1 in 2, when in the animal kingdom they are far lower? Gay animals don’t procreate. Gay humans do. Gay sex isn’t the sin. Gays procreating is.

It just takes a little imagination and research.

It is actually in the interests of the perpetuity of the human species for the Church to reverse its stance on homosexuality. The more gays procreate, the more genetic diseases there will be down the bloodline and early deaths. “They shall surely die. Their blood will be upon them”. Lev. 20.13.

Research into the consequences of gay procreation is currently impossible because homosexuality was only decriminalised in the 1960s. There are no records. Anyway, scientifically labelling gays as genetic garbage carriers would be considered discriminatory. We have to trust in the Creator’s Laws in scripture. Therefore, the Church needs to take the lead.

Traditional Christian doctrine persists in the secular world, almost concentrated, but no longer with guidance from the Church. While the Church preaches respect for the person that is the homosexual, vast swathes of non-Church-goers don’t hear that. They remain in the middle ages and see abusing gays verbally and physically as morally justified; it is what their parents did and their parents before, who would have been Church taught that homosexuals are possessed and agents of the devil.

Even now, the word “Faggot” is used. A faggot is a bundle of firewood used for fuel. In other words, “faggot” means that they should burn at the stake or burn in hell. The word faggot is Christian in origin but is widely used by secular society, oblivious of contemporary Church teaching.

Judaism, Islam, Buddhism and others are equally responsible. The Church, being the largest religion, should lead the way.
 
Living in sexual relations with people you are not Married to is a mortal sin. Gay “Marriage” does not exist. The government cannot change this.
 
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?? Gays literally cannot procreate. It’s literally impossible. The only way they CAN is if they have a surrogate mother.
 
Shouldn’t we also be fighting to make pre-marital relationships illegal then?
 
Do you realize that God made Adam and Eve? He never made homosexuals. I think the reason homosexuals exist according to Catholic teaching is due to fallen human nature due to original sin. The idea that God would intentionally create people with disordered passions is a complete rejection of Catholic Truth.
 
My point is that we seem to only focus on gay marriage but I don’t see people fighting to remove divorce, to make pre-marital relationships illegal and etc. Why the focus only on gay marriage?

Personally I struggle because I don’t feel we have ANY right to force our beliefs and morality on others who don’t join our religion.
 
People don’t have the right to deny the True God and His Holy Church. That’s like saying people have the right to break the law. Disobeying God will cause you to spend eternity in Hell. Free will and rights are not the same thing.
 
The Church teaches that children have a RIGHT to be raised by their bio-parents. Gay marriage is in opposition to that.
 
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The Church does “fight” these things in it’s own way. Fight is probably the wrong word. If you think gay marriage is the only focus the Church is “fighting” for you are mistaken. There are a host of issues that we, as members of the Church, should be advocating for or against.
 
The Church acknowledges that some topics are settled and off the table. That doesn’t mean the Church approves, it’s just too late.
 
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