Confused on the way to approach Gay Marriage

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Honestly the way the post was written it sounded as if it was saying gays procreate TOGETHER, which obviously can’t happen by any natural means at all.
 
The Catholic Church isn’t in the business of harming people. So you can trust that the decision to call homosexual acts disordered is a good one. As Catholics, we believe in the greater good, also known as the common good, as well as each individual’s good.

Your obligation as a Catholic is to teach what is best to others. A woman might argue that aborting her baby is best for her, just as a homosexual man might argue that gay marriage is best for him. You should be able to explain why each is not best.

What you are experiencing is the feeling of being at odds with your fellow man. As Catholics, we are rebels in society. We have a tough time making friends in a secular world. We will always feel we are different from the crowd, and we will always think differently from the crowd. This is the part you have to accept.
 
Well, many many gay people do procreate in the old fashioned way 🙂 They will have a friend, or even marry someone in order to have natural born children.
 
SebastianMary said:
He never made homosexuals.
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Actually, God creates every human being regardless of their sexuality. They are people, just like me, just like you. The Catechism tells us that we do not know why some people have same sex attraction.

God created me with my deformed body, God allowed this to happen for HIS glory.
 
You may be confusing a couple of things. In the USCCB’s document on reproductive technology speaking of cloning " This would be an act of supreme selfishness that would also deprive a child of a mother and a father. "

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-act...-catholic-view-of-reproductive-technology.cfm

The teachings say nothing about “bio-parents”. Adoption is a beautiful thing and we would not want to make adoptive parents nor adopted children feel they are “less than”.
 
TheLittleLady said:
You may be confusing a couple of things. In the USCCB’s document on reproductive technology speaking of cloning " This would be an act of supreme selfishness that would also deprive a child of a mother and a father. "

http://www.usccb.org/issues-and-act...-catholic-view-of-reproductive-technology.cfm

The teachings say nothing about “bio-parents”. Adoption is a beautiful thing and we would not want to make adoptive parents nor adopted children feel they are “less than”.
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Catechism 2376
Techniques that entail the dissociation of husband and wife, by the intrusion of a person other than the couple (donation of sperm or ovum, surrogate uterus), are gravely immoral. These techniques (heterologous artificial insemination and fertilization) infringe the child’s right to be born of a father and mother known to him and bound to each other by marriage. They betray the spouses’ "right to become a father and a mother only through each other."

How about them apples? I rarely hear any Catholic apologists talk about that one!
 
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So, the child doesn’t have “the right to be born of a father and mother known to him and bound to each by marriage”? That spouses do not have a “right to become a father and a mother only through each other”?
Because I’m reading that in the Catechism. It’s not like those are rights ONLY in relation to reproductive tech, and they are not rights otherwise?
 
Adoption is beautiful. I don’t think we should ever willingly seek to take a child away from their biological parents (except when abuse is present). It’s weird but a person can believe both those things. Haha.

I am of the opinion we should, at all times, seek what is best for children. That means not having sex outside of marriage with partners who would not be suitable parents. That means not choosing to create designer babies in petri dishes because we cannot conceive because we lack the proper equipment (same-sex partners). That means not deliberately becoming pregnant knowing we will never have a partner in our life (Murphy Brown). That means not acting out of our selfish desires but instead seeking the best for the child.

When things go wrong and a child is orphaned or given away by an unloving parent, the kind and right thing to do is to take the child and care for it and love it.
 
I’ve yet to see this teaching used for teachings other than WRT reproductive technology. If you have other passages in the Catechism that relate this to adoption, please, post them
 
Well, I started a new thread on this very topic, so I’m going to see about other opinions as well. Thanks!
 
For the most part it looks like you don’t want to bother people as opposed to not believing the teaching.
 
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What I mean is, he didn’t create homosexuality. He never designed human beings to be homosexual. These passions are intrinsically disordered.
 
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If you’re interested, here’s the offshoot discussion:
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Question about Catechism 2376 Moral Theology
I was having a discussion with another person here on CAF, and the topic of children and adoption came up. Here is the point from the Catechism that I brought up: Catechism 2376 Techniques that entail the dissociation of husband and wife, by the intrusion of a person other than the couple (donation of sperm or ovum, surrogate uterus), are gravely immoral. These techniques (heterologous artificial insemination and fertilization) infringe the child’s right to be born of a father and mother known…
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AlexisTherese said:
Is it possible to have no opinion on gay marriage but be Catholic? I find myself in the middle, not knowing what to say or think and I just trust God that He knows. Is it okay for myself to just say I don’t know yet be Catholic? Is this similar to saying it is not my place to judge but I am a Catholic so I follow the church? It is not that I do not agree or disagree with the Church, its that I truly have no opinion anymore as it is such a harmful subject to some. I would never actively disagree and try to change the teachings as I really don’t know what to think of it. I tend to not be very opinionated and have a soft approach in general but would a priest accept my want to be confirmed if I feel like this…
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No this practice is an abomination; an affront to TRUTH

[[26] And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts) And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them. [[28]] And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth Genesis 1: 16-28

Mark 10: Mark.10 Verses 5 to 9 "[5] But Jesus said to them, “For your hardness of heart he wrote you this commandment. [6] But from the beginning of creation, God made them male and female.' [7] For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, [8] and the two shall become one flesh.’ So they are no longer two but one flesh. [9] What therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.”

“There shall not enter into it any thing defiled, or that worketh abomination or maketh a lie, but they that are written in the book of life of the Lamb.”
[[Apocalypse (Revelation) 21:27

My friend what you propose to “justify” is a MORTAL SIN

May Jesus guide your life path
 
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