Conservatives call on GOP leaders to step down

[oldcelt]

I would like your truthful and full opinion of what you know about me. Do you really think I am a partisan Republican? Even though I have argued many issues that the Republican Party firmly disagrees with, immigration, death penalty, ect.

If you do see me as that, what would I have to do to remove that appearance? Should I keep quiet? Or should I simply agree with the intrinsic evils supported by the Democrat Party?

I am honestly wondering, what you wish of me? Do I appear as a partisan because I dare to speak against things you believe are ok? Help me understand the error of my ways.

Please give me specific issues that paint me as just another mean spirited republican.

I don’t have any such wishes…nor did I say that you were mean-spirited…I simply agreed that your post was partisan, per your own words.

John

 

[stevegravy]

I have been saying for MONTHS that Rence Prebius needs to be fired and replaced. Everyone laughed at me and called me a reactionist. I claimed for months that the GOP establishment was working as hard as it could to put Romney in place. I was told I was being silly. I said that the GOP was playing by the same playbook as 2008. People rolled their eyes at me.

The GOP’s chickens have come home to roost. Enjoy the next 4 years. I already have my plans.

Prescient as always keep it up.

 

[CMatt25]

Hope you realise that various Priests and Bishops have said tax, national security, welfare, health care, immigration, social security, medicare in combination or singularly are not proportionate reasons to vote for a pro abortion candidate

I’m going to assume Seekerz has a priest and bishop.

 

[stevegravy]

He didn’t win because he got more votes than he did last time, he won because people did not go vote for Romney. Both sides saw a considerable decrease in turnout. I don’t think either side expected that. Dem was down about 10 million, rep about 3 million less. Had a real conservative family values, Catholic values type of candidate been the nominee Obama would not have won. But that is my purely partisan opinion…

The reduction wouldn’t be due to efforts to eliminate voter fraud? Dems beat Repubs 10-3.

 

[Tigg]

This is such a load of hypocrisy. When it was, and 50% still is, the One Holy Catholic democrat Church you were okay with that.

The Democrat Party has left the Church and Her beliefs long ago, but unfortunately many still are more faithful to the DP than Mother Church.

Many here label me a partisan, Catholic Guy ridicules me with this comment that you, a partisan democrat, validate, but it’s me who is the partisan. Ok, I can take it. But I will not compromise my Catholic values.

I challenge any of you liberals to read the party platforms in light of Catholic teachings and see which matches better, which supports intrinsic evils and which does not.

This is a Catholic forum; I am a Catholic Deacon, a clergy member in His Church. Why would I talk of believing in or supporting anything contrary to the Catholic faith? I am not here to be an unbiased neutered hypocrite; I am here to represent the Church in Her fullness and I shall.

Now some here call themselves Catholic but only toe party line, some toe party line and are ashamed to list that they are Catholic, which they are even though they work against Her. Our Church is going through a period of “cleansing” and I can assure you it will get worse. The priests coming out of seminaries these days are not going left, they are going right with the Church, where She always has been. I’ve heard Arch Bishop Fulton Sheen quoted this past year more than ever in my lifetime, Praise God! He got it right. What is you opinion of him? I guess he was a partisan too…

The deacons coming out and being ordained these days are preaching the whole truth, and lately many priests and bishops are getting the strong message of truth out. I would like nothing more than to sit and hear my pastor preach Church truths every weekend, as of now every time there is a “hard” subject to preach on it is my turn to preach. I’m okay with that, but it should be the priest.

The Democrat Party has left the Church; it is past time for the Church to leave the Democrat Party. We are Catholics before we are rep or dem, we are Catholic before we are conservative or liberal. The Catholic Church is truth because the Truth is the Head of Her, conform you will to Him and you too will see the light.

You are truly an asset to this forum and an even greater asset for the Church and the glory of God. THANK YOU!!

 

[Caldera]

Romney did WORSE than McCain. I didn’t even think that was possible. McCain was the worst candidate the GOP has offered for public consumption in recent history.

Yep.

I have been saying for MONTHS that Rence Prebius needs to be fired and replaced. Everyone laughed at me and called me a reactionist. I claimed for months that the GOP establishment was working as hard as it could to put Romney in place. I was told I was being silly. I said that the GOP was playing by the same playbook as 2008. People rolled their eyes at me.

Well, I never laughed at you, Scott, but I’ve learned to play the cards I’m dealt. (I have extensive Texas hold’em experience ) It’s a rare day when I disagree with you on issues you choose to argue here, but it became necessary to support Romney under the circumstances, regardless of the reasons and the unfortunate results we now have with this election.

 

[seekerz]

I’m going to assume Seekerz has a priest and bishop.

I’ve been informed elsewhere that my priest in misguided. From the comments I see here, there seem to be no proportional reason that my detractors would accept, yet the Church clearly accepts that proportional reason can exist…what does that say?

I follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is not a gospel of blind hatred, greed, scorn and bitterness. Nobody can command me to do otherwise.

 

[seekerz]

Christ will be your judge…not me. One day you will stand before His fearsome judgment seat and have to explain why you supported a man who champions abortion on demand, infanticide, and homosexual “marriage.”

My Lord and I are cool. Tend to yourself.

A Christian approach to politics and politicians would at some point focus on PRAYING for the conversion of those whose stances are not in line with the Gospel. Unless I missed something, we are to take Christ’s Word to the nations - not insults, anger and divisiveness.

 

[BroomWagon]

My Lord and I are cool. Tend to yourself.

A Christian approach to politics and politicians would at some point focus on PRAYING for the conversion of those whose stances are not in line with the Gospel. Unless I missed something, we are to take Christ’s Word to the nations - not insults, anger and divisiveness.

Like the name calling by the Obama administration calling people felons and false accusations?

Tend to yourself and look at your own side that is based on making false accusations and name calling.

 

[onenow1]

Was that when he started to say “Bla” and then later said he was not meaning to say blacks? Or was that something else?

Hi Matt Remember he who is without sin cast the first stone,just saying.

God Bless
onenow1

 

[SGTTOM]

Why do you think Romney was worse then McCain? Is it because he was less conservative?

 

[CMatt25]

I’ve been informed elsewhere that my priest in misguided. From the comments I see here, there seem to be no proportional reason that my detractors would accept, yet the Church clearly accepts that proportional reason can exist…what does that say?

I follow the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is not a gospel of blind hatred, greed, scorn and bitterness. Nobody can command me to do otherwise.

I understand Seekerz. Your priest isn’t among the various ones they quote so to them he’s the one misguided. It says to me if the Catholic Church clearly accepts proportionate reason, yet they don’t believe there is any, that they are not accepting that the Catholic Church says proportionate reason can exist.

 

[qui_est_ce]

You seem almost as intelligent as the other democrat hack that you commented on. You two have a lot in common.

You can mock me if you like, it doesn’t really matter; but you cannot show me I am wrong by Church teaching and doctrines. It’s all you have to discredit me, sad…

It’s ok, I forgive you both.

Please keep coming back. I envy your parish.

 

[Caldera]

Why do you think Romney was worse then McCain? Is it because he was less conservative?

I don’t think Romney was worse than McCain, and it is surprising why so many chose to not vote in probably the most important election in US history.

 

[qui_est_ce]

Interesting comments, sedonaman - esp. about God sending his people into exile for their disobedience.

Here is my take on why Mitt Romney lost as well as why our democracy is threatened:

1. the secular left has been in control of our education system for atleast four decades. This has produced a generation of younger voters who have fallen for the failed promises of the left. This generation doesn’t remember Carter, stagflation, inflation, 20% interest rates and gas rationing. Thus, the leftist Obama can gain a majority of young people.
2. We live in an increasingly entitlement society - record numbers of people who don’t want to lose their benefits from the government are a natural constituency for the statist Obama/Democrats. Add #1 to this group and throw in those employed in the public sector and you have the automatic guarenteed 45% of the vote for Obama. Years ago a candidate with the ideas of Obama would have have been hard pressed to win one state.

Alexis De Tocqueville said, “the American republic will endure until the congress realizes it can bribe the public with the public’s money.” Thus, the top 10% of income earners pay 90% of the income taxes, and 47% pay no income tax at all.

1. The media: We no longer have a free, objective media. Instead we have a media that protects Obama, doesn’t pursue issues like Benghazi or Fast and Furious scandals like they would if a Republican were president, and overall is derelict in their duty to report the facts.
2. Individuals/bad luck & Sandy: Two senators made comments on abortion that were easily demogogued by the left and used to portray the GOP and Romney as “anti-Women.” In a close election, this can make a difference. This is not Romney’s fault, but his bad luck. Making matters worse, was an epic hurricane that materialized just as the Benghazi story at last began sticking. The hurricane “blew” the Benghazi scandal off the news. And finally, you had the kenote speaker at the RNC, Mr. Republican, pro-Romney governor of New Jersey, Chris Christie, call Obama’s leadership “outstanding” and proceed to suck up to him for the rest of the campaign. At an Obama rally with Bruce Springsteen, Obama called up his new special buddy Chris Christie and put him throught to his (Christie’s) hero Bruce. In a close election, things like this matter. Whether it made the difference or not, it amounts to an epic betrayal of Romney, imo.

So, we can say, “the GOP needs to nominate true conservatives” , etc. but given the state of our country and the electorate, I don’t think it matters. The scales have tipped. The election has confirmed the left’s victory over the traditional America and we are entering a “brave new world” of more abortions, attacks on religious freedom, inflation, economic stagnation and high unemployment - the “new normal.” But not to worry folks, Barrack Obama and Kathleen Sebelius will take care of us.

Thanks Democrat catholics.

Ishii

Well said.

I’d like to add that it is interesting that people who know Obama is a failure couldn’t bring themselves to vote RR, and stayed home, thus allowing Obama to win.

 

[onenow1]

Apparently not.

You are exactly right ! When we choose to make ourselves gods this will always be the result, truth escapes them !

God Bless
onenow1

 

[qui_est_ce]

This is such a load of hypocrisy. When it was, and 50% still is, the One Holy Catholic democrat Church you were okay with that.

The Democrat Party has left the Church and Her beliefs long ago, but unfortunately many still are more faithful to the DP than Mother Church.

Many here label me a partisan, Catholic Guy ridicules me with this comment that you, a partisan democrat, validate, but it’s me who is the partisan. Ok, I can take it. But I will not compromise my Catholic values.

I challenge any of you liberals to read the party platforms in light of Catholic teachings and see which matches better, which supports intrinsic evils and which does not.

This is a Catholic forum; I am a Catholic Deacon, a clergy member in His Church. Why would I talk of believing in or supporting anything contrary to the Catholic faith? I am not here to be an unbiased neutered hypocrite; I am here to represent the Church in Her fullness and I shall.

Now some here call themselves Catholic but only toe party line, some toe party line and are ashamed to list that they are Catholic, which they are even though they work against Her. Our Church is going through a period of “cleansing” and I can assure you it will get worse. The priests coming out of seminaries these days are not going left, they are going right with the Church, where She always has been. I’ve heard Arch Bishop Fulton Sheen quoted this past year more than ever in my lifetime, Praise God! He got it right. What is you opinion of him? I guess he was a partisan too…

The deacons coming out and being ordained these days are preaching the whole truth, and lately many priests and bishops are getting the strong message of truth out. I would like nothing more than to sit and hear my pastor preach Church truths every weekend, as of now every time there is a “hard” subject to preach on it is my turn to preach. I’m okay with that, but it should be the priest.

The Democrat Party has left the Church; it is past time for the Church to leave the Democrat Party. We are Catholics before we are rep or dem, we are Catholic before we are conservative or liberal. The Catholic Church is truth because the Truth is the Head of Her, conform you will to Him and you too will see the light.

 

[7_Sorrows]

karl rove could step down and i would not be the least disappointed.

 

[mary_bobo]

I don’t think Romney was worse than McCain, and it is surprising why so many chose to not vote in probably the most important election in US history.

1. Romney is a Mormon
2. Romney is not a true conservative
3. Romney promised to clean up the financial situation in this country and too many are
   getting “stuff” to want to see that happen.
4. Romney is not for “women’s rights” whatever the heck that is.
   5… Too many believe what they see and hear on the MSM and never look any farther than
   that.

And many more. If anyone heard any of the exit interviews, the responses boggle ones mind.

 

[pete_29]

This is such a load of hypocrisy. When it was, and 50% still is, the One Holy Catholic democrat Church you were okay with that.

The Democrat Party has left the Church and Her beliefs long ago, but unfortunately many still are more faithful to the DP than Mother Church.

Many here label me a partisan, Catholic Guy ridicules me with this comment that you, a partisan democrat, validate, but it’s me who is the partisan. Ok, I can take it. But I will not compromise my Catholic values.

I challenge any of you liberals to read the party platforms in light of Catholic teachings and see which matches better, which supports intrinsic evils and which does not.

This is a Catholic forum; I am a Catholic Deacon, a clergy member in His Church. Why would I talk of believing in or supporting anything contrary to the Catholic faith? I am not here to be an unbiased neutered hypocrite; I am here to represent the Church in Her fullness and I shall.

Now some here call themselves Catholic but only toe party line, some toe party line and are ashamed to list that they are Catholic, which they are even though they work against Her. Our Church is going through a period of “cleansing” and I can assure you it will get worse. The priests coming out of seminaries these days are not going left, they are going right with the Church, where She always has been. I’ve heard Arch Bishop Fulton Sheen quoted this past year more than ever in my lifetime, Praise God! He got it right. What is you opinion of him? I guess he was a partisan too…

The deacons coming out and being ordained these days are preaching the whole truth, and lately many priests and bishops are getting the strong message of truth out. I would like nothing more than to sit and hear my pastor preach Church truths every weekend, as of now every time there is a “hard” subject to preach on it is my turn to preach. I’m okay with that, but it should be the priest.

The Democrat Party has left the Church; it is past time for the Church to leave the Democrat Party. We are Catholics before we are rep or dem, we are Catholic before we are conservative or liberal. The Catholic Church is truth because the Truth is the Head of Her, conform you will to Him and you too will see the light.

Well said Deacon. God Bless You.