Conservatives call on GOP leaders to step down

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You cannot choose your own truth.
I agree. 100%. A man who sets his sights on the throne of God Himself is unlikely to prove a worthy opponent to a Christian, however flawed, in a direct contest.
 
You’re the one portraying Catholic doctrine in a way that suits your politics. And where have I accused you of not showing Catholic decency? I simply remarked on the pontiff’s response and how it should be an example of behavior for us.
No sir, this is the example of arrogance against the teachings of Mother Church Fr. talked about in his response. The truth is there, but for ideology and party you choose to ignore it.
 
No sir, this is the example of arrogance against the teachings of Mother Church Fr. talked about in his response. The truth is there, but for ideology and party you choose to ignore it.
Mother Church and I are just cool, but thank you for asking.
 
I’m referring to the stance Romney held in the primaries - not to which candidate you supported in the primaries.
There were two candidates that were viable in the general, one a prove abortion on demand supporter, the other stood on limiting abortion and not in favor of any other IEs. Supporting Romney over Obama, according to Church teachings was the right choice for a Catholic with a fully and properly formed conscience.
 
There were two candidates that were viable in the general, one a prove abortion on demand supporter, the other stood on limiting abortion and not in favor of any other IEs. Supporting Romney over Obama, according to Church teachings was the right choice for a Catholic with a fully and properly formed conscience.
We’re back to that, are we? Did you actually listen to the last few comments Romney made on abortion? I LISTEN to people. I don’t project my personal views onto them because I so oppose their opponent.
 
Party and ideology that important I see. Sad, I’m done. May God bless you as you seek.👍
Party and ideology? Read my posts on this forum. I have only the minimal respect for ideology. I believe in taking stock of REALITY and acting in the way that seems best. Canned ideas do not appeal to me - fresh produce is always best.

Thanks for your blessings. God bless you too.
 
Really? Tell me, are you Catholic? Just asking.
You still haven’t said why you asked me this. Obviously I have “Catholic” as my religion, so is it because I don’t agree with you?
You seem like a reasonable person…why would you ask this?
 
I agree Romney lied and Obama didn’t, every time Obama has in word, deed, and action supported murder on demand, I believe him.

Just for your info, I did not support Romney as much as I opposed the abortion supporter. And also, please fill us in on the particular things Romney lied about. I would say both sides have a bucket full of untruths and/or half truths. So to call one side untruthful and not the other is not credible.
I find it to be a large double standard/hypocrisy people have on this board.

Obama can do no wrong, yet Romney is a liar.

There is the old saying… How do we know a politician is lying? They open their mouths.

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It is discouraging to think that the best the Republicans could come up with are:

G.W. Bush, Cheney, McCain, Palin, Romney, Ryan…

But then when you look at the other side:

Gore to Obama…

They are not doing any better.

I think what the R’s missed is that the center elects the President, not the right. The D’s don’t need to win the left, and the R’s don’t need to win the right. The winner of the election is the person who appeals more to the center.
 
Strange, the divisiveness I see is aimed at him rather than caused by him: beginning with the birthers and through to those who circulate emails with claims that belong in the trash. Then there was the recent film, followed by a DVD…That’s not the president doing or tolerating all this - that’s us.
His “tax the wealthy” approach is very divisive. I don’t know what emails you’re referring to. As to the recent film, I guess you mean “2016”. The film extensively quotes Obama from his autobiography. How can you argue with words written by Obama himself?
 
I think the left has always been better than the right in America when it comes to politics, and I think it comes naturally. If you have an ideology in which you believe the political process and political goals/govt. programs are the ultimate end, you will organize better, fight harder and do whatever is needed to ensure victory. Can you imagine a right wing community organizer? Neither can I. Look at the right - it consists of politicians to be sure, but often it consists of people who were in the private sector. running businesses, etc. but who are not professional politicians. I think this reality was a factor in the election.

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Agreed!
 
His “tax the wealthy” approach is very divisive. I don’t know what emails you’re referring to. As to the recent film, I guess you mean “2016”. The film extensively quotes Obama from his autobiography. How can you argue with words written by Obama himself?
How do protestants argue with Catholics over the same Bible?
 
You still haven’t said why you asked me this. Obviously I have “Catholic” as my religion, so is it because I don’t agree with you?
You seem like a reasonable person…why would you ask this?
I already responded, maybe you missed it. In the hierarchy of sins I was taught, ‘whining’ does not outrank lying. Just wondering if you were taught the same.

And my apologies - I should have checked your profile.
 
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