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Scott_Lafrance
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So, from my observation of the discussion, is that the Democrat Party’s hopes for future elections are contingent upon continued entrenchment of racial discrimination in the system.
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Friar_David_O.Carm
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When AA was put in place it was done so with the understanding that it would not be eternal. That someday in the future it would go away.
How long must AA be in place? How do we determine if it has reached what its goal was?
I also ask Rich, how does doing injustice to people who have done no wrong correct a wrong done to people in the past? The people who are supported by AA are not the ones who were wronged in the first place.
An analogy could be made of sentencing the child of a murder who evaded capture and died to serve the sentence that the murder would have been made to serve had he been captured while he lived. Or a criminal who dies while in prison who still has years left on his sentence, making a relative of his serve out this sentence.
Again, common sense, how does being unjust to one person serve to treat another person justly?
How long must AA be in place? How do we determine if it has reached what its goal was?
I also ask Rich, how does doing injustice to people who have done no wrong correct a wrong done to people in the past? The people who are supported by AA are not the ones who were wronged in the first place.
An analogy could be made of sentencing the child of a murder who evaded capture and died to serve the sentence that the murder would have been made to serve had he been captured while he lived. Or a criminal who dies while in prison who still has years left on his sentence, making a relative of his serve out this sentence.
Again, common sense, how does being unjust to one person serve to treat another person justly?
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Rich_Olszewski
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A political question demanding a political answer. I don’t know, but I do know that it can’t be abolished now.
Eliminate the unjust discrimination and you honor the spirit with which AA was intended.
And it becomes a program everyone can support.
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rlg94086
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Yep. Pro-abortion, pro-gay marriage, pro-welfare state and pro-racism. It’s quite a platform for a Catholic to get behind, isn’t it?
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rlg94086
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Votes over morality.
You cannot know one without knowing the other.
If you ‘know’ that it cannot be abolished now, then you know why, and know what condition must cease for it to be unnecessary.
The fact that you want it in place but cannot name what conditions need to be to remove it speaks volumes.
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Rich_Olszewski
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What defines unjust discrimination in the minds of our black citizens? I can already see that their view is not going to match that of our conservative posters on this thread.
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rlg94086
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So, black citizens believe that disrimanting against others is okay as long as it favors them?
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Rich_Olszewski
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I’m NOT the politician in Washington who has the power to abolish the policy. I do know that abolishing it will take a tremendous political risk, one that few Republicans are willing to take on.
Straight away you are trying to trivialize based upon opinion.
It does not matter what one or the other thinks, the simple facts are there…skin color based discrimination is wrong.
It is now, it was then, it it will continue to be so no matter how many people claim otherwise.
Is that what the argument is based on? An opinion wedged into place where facts actually are?
Sorry, but morality is not dictated by majority.
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Rich_Olszewski
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For an answer, ask our black posters, perhaps Beau Ouiville, if that is what he believes, and if not available, ask the man-in-the-street black person who might benefit from the policy if that is what he believes.
You are side-stepping the question.
What exactly are the conditions necessary for AA to be unnecessary?
What specific norm in society is it aiming for?
By what standard is it being measured?
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Rich_Olszewski
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Ah, but the contination or the abolition of the policy IS dictated by the majority of voters or Congressmen. And, that’s what counts.
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rlg94086
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It doesn’t really matter. I’m going to support the moral choice, not the popular choice. I believe that many black citizens will choose morality, as well.
You were the one that claimed to speak for all of these people.
Now when called for it…
You are attempting to defend the indefensible.
And it shows.
So you concede the morality argument and acknowledge that AA is immoral?
That is the implication given your lateral movement into politics here.
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rlg94086
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Btw…Beau hasn’t posted or even logged on since August 25th…
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rlg94086
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He did not say that…just that morality/immorality doesn’t matter. What matters is how people vote.
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