So you can not articulate what needs to happen for an end to AA. That is very telling, if it can not be articulated then it can never be ended. Especially if you only link it to votes. Those who receive preferential treatment will never vote enmass for the removal of that special treatment.
Another question comes to mind and I know you might not wish to answer it. If you prefer not to then please do not answer, I will not hold it against you.
I think we may want to clarify that…the receiving end of benefits from AA.
The latter one here is the way I meant it in my question.
Meaning what? Have I ever gotten an advancement because of AA? Or, have I ever had to accommodate an individual taking advantage of AA? Which one?
I have as well. It sucks, especially when they try to make you feel better by saying “You really were the most qualified! We just needed a Hispanic instead, so you are a good candidate, just find another place that needs a white person and you’re a shoe-in.”
That I personally cannot articulate what needs to happen is almost immaterial. I’m no expert, nor a Congressman, so it’s not up to me.
Which is why I said that the GOP will try to abolish it at its own peril.
BTW, Rich, do you still go into your co-workers’ desks and steal change when they’re not around?
No, I haven’t experienced it from either side. I work for the largest state agency in the state, and am in the unit that writes and promulgates departmental rules and regulations on nearly anything you can think of. There are four white people and three black people who work on policies, and everyone of us is at least sharp enough to do the work sufficiently well to pass muster with the State Legislators before whom we have to testify to defend those rules and regs. All three blacks were hired without AA. And, neither was I.
Not quite the same but I will reword it.BTW, Rich, do you still go into your co-workers’ desks and steal change when they’re not around?
This is partly where our views are divergent. Congress is there to serve me, not for me to serve them. They represent me, not I them.
Number of votes should never be considered in the case of injustice.
So you want a discriminatory and unjust system in place.
Pardon my cynicism, but that’s out of Mr. Smith goes to Washington.
I’m quite sure that neither the Dems or the GOP will take the high road you suggest, but will have an eye on the vote, especially with '12 coming up!
Do you think for even a second that my opinion counts to any lawmaker - of any party? Would that it did!So you want a discriminatory and unjust system in place.
You cannot articulate why or for how long.
Actually, I am noticing a pattern.
No, I don’t. And, where such has been the case, the benefits of maintaining the policy outweight the negatives. My opinion.
Nevertheless you lend your support to it.
so you do not view it as discriminatroy except where it is discriminatory?
Never seen that particular movie but it is what I believe and how I vote.
I fought in the Vietnam War, - for two years in country - never completely understood the whys of our being there and certainly had no idea how long the war would last - but I lent my support to the war.