COVID 19 Vaccines

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So if you’re not actually interested in having a back and forth where beliefs are examined and critiqued, why participate in the discussion at all?
More disturbing for me is this. If I was convinced that, Eg. vaccines are best avoided (our children would be better without them) that’s something I’d feel compelled to share - in a persuasive way. Otherwise, I’d feel part of a heinous coverup.
 
Otherwise, I’d feel part of a heinous coverup.
Perhaps you have a guilt ridden soul. I don’t feel the least bit of guilt. The internet is right in front of you with incredible information. It’s kind of hard to cover up.
 
I’m happy for you. My three daughters have never been vaccinated and don’t even know what a doctor’s office looks like. We’ve had one doctor visit in over ten years and that was to a dermatologist because of a small bump on my daughter’s ear. Otherwise I can’t even think of the last time they had anything. Not vaccinating has worked well for us.
 
It almost looks like you just enjoy riling people up, since half your posts end with some variation on “lol you control freaks are so mad lol 😂 “.
I think I’ve read somewhere that there’s a term for posters like that…can’t remember it off the top of my head… 🤔
 
I have read hundreds of articles on both sides of the argument.
Whelp, I guess that’s what I kinda figured. It’s not researching actual studies, but rather reading articles. I figured that since there aren’t and studies that exist against vaccinations. I hope you’re at least using google scholar, I’m going to go ahead and assume no though.
 
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Yes it is. You just have to figure out which ones!

Y’all are making me feel more popular than a warm peach pie! :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes:
 
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Has there been any vaccine updates recently?

Please, no further arguing with RuthAnne. Her mind is made up and it has worked out well for her and her family. Further discussions is about as productive as arguing with a Jesus myther. You aren’t going to change her mind and she won’t try to change yours either.

It seems many people are willing to be early adopters of the vaccine when/if it arrives and many are in the wait and see for a while. Other than RuthAnne, are there any others that will never take the vaccine? Or a wait and see attitude?
 
Yes it is. You just have to figure out which ones
Bingo again, and when proper peer reviewed and vetted studies keep coming out with the same conclusions over…and over…and over again they’re usually the right ones.
 
Maybe there’s a vaccine for dementia 🤣
I really wish there were! I’d take it in a heartbeat. Of all my fears of the aging process, losing my mind scares me the most…to be physically fine and not know my family or where I am…seriously scary for me!
 
Other than RuthAnne, are there any others that will never take the vaccine?
People who had COVID-19 and recovered may not need the vaccine or get any benefit from it. I’m pretty sure I’m one of those and I do not wish to get the vaccine any time soon.
 
I’m pretty sure I’m one of those and I do not wish to get the vaccine any time soon.
Would you feel the same if it’s discovered that immunity only lasts say about 6 months? From the findings that are slowly trickling out, this virus doesn’t seem to trigger a strong immune response, at least in some people.

Even if I had to get the vaccine every six months, I’d do it. I’m high risk. If they find that the vaccine is short lived but the actual infection lasts much longer? I think I’d still take it for a while, hoping the virus itself mutates into a milder form.
 
Those are good questions. I am not against the vaccine on principle, and would reconsider it depending on what we discover about immunity to this virus.
 
I agree that for now, the best we can do is keep an open mind and see where the technology takes us. A decision now, either way, is not needed.
 
Today I got my results back from a Covid antibody test…

I went to a church event in early March before the world shut down and sat at a table 2ft away from somebody who tested positive for Covid within days. This person’s entire office had tested positive the week before this person…

I had what felt like a mild Covid case in late March and much of April…As expected. I had an annoying cough, and even lost my sense of smell and taste for a few days. Never had lost my sense of taste and smell before. That was strange. … I tried getting a Covid test in early April, but I’m too young, wasn’t running a fever…

The thing is that after all of this…”I have no antibodies!” What is going on!? Are none of these antibody tests accurate? I’ve been reading about T-cells and how they give some level of immunity to some people. Was I one of those people? Do these antibodies go away within months? If this is the case what is the point of a vaccine…especially a rushed one that may have problems. If some people have some level of immunity, why would everybody need to be vaccinated? Is this vaccine research even going after the right way to immunize people?
Jack, those are great questions. I hope we are going to get straight answers about them, not half-truths from Big Pharma and friends at the NIH and CDC who all stand to make more $ if half-baked vaccines are forced on people. Pharma will make even more $ treating the side effects of those vaccines.

I really like Dr Chris Martenson on the subject of antibodies. a clip is here. and in greater depth here. He’s been covering various studies about seroprevalence—roughly the % of people who test positive to antibody test. He addresses your questions but will readily admit there are probably more questions remaining than definitive answers.

Martenson also explains here the difference between T Cell immunity and B Cell related immunity–the latter being more closely related to vaccines and antibodies.
 
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Thanks!..I watched the video. There seem to be some valid points in there. It makes sense that if a large portion of the population have some sort of T-cell immunity, then the threshold (i.e. the number of people who need to get infected) for “Herd Immunity” to happen is much much lower. The results from Sweden were very interesting…no lock down and no more deaths. I can’t say I understand it, but it is very interesting.
 
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