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mary_bobo said:
And what about those who do not have computers but vote. How are they do hear what each candidate proposes if all the candidates do is spend their time insulting one another. Disgusting.
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Well, most public libraries these days offer free internet access…

Honestly, how many people who have computers/internet, even those interested in the election, have read through every word of those tax policy pages? If a candidate were to explain their tax plan in depth (not soundbites), or read verbatum what is written on those websites… how many watchers would turn it off in two minutes because it’s boring? Don’t forget that those web pages have been simplified to be easy to understand; they don’t give all the details. Remember all the ridicule for Ross Perot and his charts and figures?

IMO, most Americans don’t care about the nitty gritty policy differences, or their attention spans are too short to explore them in depth. That’s why the candidates don’t dwell on the details in their speeches etc. For those few voters who are highly motivated, I don’t think it is VERY difficult for them to find out more about policies, even without a computer at home.
 
dixieagle said:
I think it was an appalling, un-American statement, and one of the reasons I am wary of Cruz. For someone who is such a constitutionalist, he blew it on this one.

Follow up leads and investigate all of them thoroughly, but the sort of “profiling” he suggests is counterproductive and helps in radicalizing young Muslims, in my opinion.
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Agree completely! And have you checked out who advises Cruz on his foreign policy - truly some bottom of the barrel, anti-Muslim warmongers.
 
SuperLuigi said:
:rolleyes:

The fact is the GOPe is out there right now trying to stop the frontrunner. I guess the left really wants to try and tie the two together for their own nefarious, selfish agenda that can’t stand on its merits (or more appropriately lack there of), but the fact is the frontunner, just like Cruz, is an outsider.

Bush donors spent over 150 million dollars trying to stop him, so that’s hardly knees to the wall.

There’s even talk that they won’t give it to Kasich, but parachute in Paul Ryan.

I mean, really, if folks want him to be president that bad, they should be demanding Obama/Biden resign.
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I don’t understand your post. Are you saying I’m the left? What two things am I tying together for nefarious purposes?

I want Trump to get the Republican nomination because that is clearly what most Republicans want. I believe Trump will get the 1237 fair and square. It is clear that the Republican leadership doesn’t like either frontrunner. Sadly, the party is deeply fractured.
 
randomuser said:
I don’t think it’s unfair at all - if the GOP bills itself as the pro-life party – against abortion – and they pick a guy who has praised the wonderful work of Planned Parenthood, except for when it comes to abortion – and they pick him over Cruz or Kasich, both of whom are pro-life, that’s what’s unfair. You can’t say, “no taxpayer funds to PP,” and then check the proverbial “pro-life” box, and yet, that’s exactly what we’re seeing happening here. Cruz, and especially Kasich, are the ones getting robbed here.
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RM, if the Republican Party bills itself as anti-choice but most of the Republicans in the country vote for someone like Trump (who, imho, is clearly not anti-choice), what does that mean?
 
queenofheartscv said:
Heidi’s picture was also readily available.
I much prefer trump to cruz. Whenever I see cruz’s eyes, they look to me calculating, canniving, and untrustworthy to me. But that’s just me.
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Me too!

Have you ever read The Dead Zone by Stephen King? Great great book - one of his early ones. There’s a character in that novel named Greg Stillson. Cruz reminds me of that character.
 
Little_Sheep said:
RM, if the Republican Party bills itself as anti-choice but most of the Republicans in the country vote for someone like Trump (who, imho, is clearly not anti-choice), what does that mean?
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It means that if Trump is elected, he would have to do what his constituents wanted if he had any hope of being re-elected.
 
Ted Cruz ‘Affair’ Rumors Peddled by Marco Rubio’s Allies

Cruz fired back on Friday, charging that the piece was baseless and that the Enquirer was taking its marching orders straight from “Donald Trump and his henchmen.”

The truth behind the rumor-mongering, however, is a little more complex. A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz’s opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now—and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears.

For months and months, anti-Cruz operatives have pitched a variety of #CruzSexScandal stories to a host of prominent national publications, according to Republican operatives and media figures. The New York Times, The Washington Post, Bloomberg News, Politico, and ABC News—reporters at all those outlets heard some version of the Cruz-is-cheating story. None of them decided to run with rumors. Those publications’ representatives all declined to provide on-the-record comments when The Daily Beast reached out for this article.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/25/ted-cruz-affair-rumors-peddled-by-marco-rubio-s-allies.html
 
Ridgerunner said:
It means that if Trump is elected, he would have to do what his constituents wanted if he had any hope of being re-elected.
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But people who didn’t care about the issue voted him in the first time…why would it matter a second time?
 
Peter_J said:
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You should send that in to HRC. I bet you she’d get a lot of mileage out of it!
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Do you not think it would be the apex of hypocrisy if Trump got the most votes and the most delegates by far and then they didn’t make him their nominee?
 
gilliam said:
Ted Cruz ‘Affair’ Rumors Peddled by Marco Rubio’s Allies

Cruz fired back on Friday, charging that the piece was baseless and that the Enquirer was taking its marching orders straight from “Donald Trump and his henchmen.”

The truth behind the rumor-mongering, however, is a little more complex. A half-dozen GOP operatives and media figures tell The Daily Beast that Cruz’s opponents have been pushing charges of adultery for at least six months now—and that allies of former GOP presidential hopeful Marco Rubio were involved in spreading the smears.

For months and months, anti-Cruz operatives have pitched a variety of #CruzSexScandal stories to a host of prominent national publications, according to Republican operatives and media figures. The New York Times, The Washington Post, Bloomberg News, Politico, and ABC News—reporters at all those outlets heard some version of the Cruz-is-cheating story. None of them decided to run with rumors. Those publications’ representatives all declined to provide on-the-record comments when The Daily Beast reached out for this article.

thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/03/25/ted-cruz-affair-rumors-peddled-by-marco-rubio-s-allies.html
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This article declares them as mere “smears”, but there is reason to believe it could be true.
 
EmperorNapoleon said:
This article declares them as mere “smears”, but there is reason to believe it could be true.
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Why is there reason to believe it could be true? I’ll give you that the NE has scooped some meaningful stories - particularly as regards the personal lives of US political candidates. I am not someone who discounts the NE.

But I am also someone who understands that if you say a lie about someone long enough, that lie still sticks to that person (as a HRC supporter for many years, I learned this lesson the hard way)! So, I’m not willing to accept the NE wholesale during this insane primary race.
 
Little_Sheep said:
I don’t understand your post. Are you saying I’m the left? What two things am I tying together for nefarious purposes?

I want Trump to get the Republican nomination because that is clearly what most Republicans want. I believe Trump will get the 1237 fair and square. It is clear that the Republican leadership doesn’t like either frontrunner. Sadly, the party is deeply fractured.
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Maybe all these folks who want Trump have not heard that he polls badly against Hillary.
 
Little_Sheep said:
Do you not think it would be the apex of hypocrisy if Trump got the most votes and the most delegates by far and then they didn’t make him their nominee?
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Nice loaded question (wink).

I have no doubt that having a plurality of delegates on the first ballot will help whichever candidate (not just directly, but also in the sense that other delegates, once unbound, will be more inclined to vote for that candidate). But there’s no rule that says that, if candidate A has 1100 delegates and candidate B has 1099, then A gets the nomination immediately without having to get a majority of delegates.
 
But, who’s to say that it will be Donald Trump who has a plurality on the first ballot? 🤷
 
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