CVs don't have to be Virgins?

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Why is virginity important for consecrated virgins? Simple. It is virginal bridehood that distinguishes this vocation and most perfectly reflects the Church in her own virginity. Without it, there is no meaning. See my articles here: Http://doihaveavocation.com
 
This is why I say you have little faith. You wrote these words.
 
You also said this. Ye Of little faith in the power and great glory of God.

Did you forget what God will do to the heavens and earth at the end times. Read revelation
 
Again, the Virgin Mary would become a Consecrated widow. The Virgin Mary was the first vocation.
 
I am glad to read this discussion of this topic. As usual, I find the news reports disturbing without more information.

I am just going to take a deep breath and have faith that the Holy Spirit will work all of this out, with the help of thoughtful people such as yourselves.

My knee-jerk reaction is: as our Holy Mother is praised as perpetual virgin and mother (among other things), and indeed as consecrating virginity to the Church has always been considered a special sacrifice, why should it not be acknowledged as a separate type of consecration?

I think there probably are those who are given a special grace from early life to overcome temptations against chastity and remain virgins, and so consecrate themselves in a special way to God. That does not take away from other types of consecration.

Obviously there are different gifts given to us by the Holy Spirit. In our modern society, the emphasis is on the equality of all the vocations, and I know that we can all become saints through the vocation to which we are called. But some are given greater spiritual gifts than others. I mean, I am no John Paul or Mother Teresa! I see people who are ‘greater’ then I, by virtue of their gifts, every day. I think we are also called to venerate them, to honor them without jealousy.

My point is: Isn’t it a sort of jealousy that demands that the calling of Consecrated Virginity be made open to everyone who has a commitment to chastity, or unmarried chastity or whatever? Those are similar gifts, but not the same gift.

Am I off the mark?
 
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? How would God restore virginity, if a virgin simply means one who has not have sex yet? Reverse time?
 
My goodness people. Stop fixating on physical virginity. Chastity and celibacy are about so much more. A physical Virgin could still commit sexual sin.

God can do anything. Because He created everything. Even this minute where you are reading this.
 
Yes it is. If a person does not believe God is all powerful and encompassing and able to transcend the physical. Look at any miracle, big or small. How did God make the sun move at Fatima, how did God bring up healing waters of Lourdes, how did St Clare hold up the Blessed Sacrament and protect the village. How did the staff of Moses become a serpent.
 
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Yes it is. If a person does not believe God is all powerful and encompassing and able to transcend the physical. Look at any miracle, big or small. How did God make the sun move at Fatima, how did God bring up healing waters of Lourdes, how did St Clare hold up the Blessed Sacrament and protect the village. How did the staff of Moses become a serpent.
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There’s a distinct difference between those things, and between creating a square circle or a married bachelor.

It’s very different to create physical impossibilities, versus logical ones (in the true sense of logic, not the colloquial sense where it is used to merely refer to probabilities). 2+2=4 because that is what 2 and 4 are; 4 cannot be 5 without ceasing to be 4.
 
When were any miracles logical? When do we subscribe human logic to the creation and activity of God?
 
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Yes, every miracle was logical, in the sense of being logically possible. If it were illogical it could not happen at all, God or not.

Colloquial english is rather irritating in this regard. There are multiple types of impossibilities referred to via the same language.

Making the sun move or stand still - this violates the laws of physics, but it does not violate the laws of logic. It does not make the sun no longer the sun while still being the sun, only that it does something no human could make it do.

A square circle is logically impossible. It violates the very essence of what it means to be a square, or a circle. It is like declaring that 2+2=5 - that cannot be unless either 2 or 5 cease to be what they are.

A God who was not bound by the laws of logic would be a terrifying one. To say God can perform the logically impossible is to say that God can erase the very concept of true and false - not merely make one thing true and another false, but render the concepts utterly meaningless, to allow something to be true and false at the same time. And if they can be erased, they are erased, and we speak nonsense when we talk of Christ being the Truth.
 
Human logic is not the logic of God. We are only to fear a God, nothing else.
Our logic is not God’s logic. That’s exemplified over and over again in Sacred Scripture.
 
Human logic is not helpless, either.

What you describe is a God who could only be feared. To say God is loving, good, just, these would all be meaningless, mere noises that we would make in a world that was utterly impossible for any human to even hope to comprehend anything beyond the mere physical. To throw out logic is at best to make a God that we cannot understand and cannot relate to except by mere parroting, because every tool to seek understanding is stripped away.

Our tradition also says that we can come to know of God by logic - that would not be possible except that logic were an immutable thing that we could trust and rely on. If it can be made, even by God, to be different, it cannot be relied on to ever show us anything of the divine, nor to assist us in comprehending any of it. If logic is violatable, one ought to throw the Summa and all following it in the trash.
 
Physical virginity is an outdated concept. Anyway, you didn’t answer the question.

Do you think God can make a square circle? Can he also make a rock heavy enough so that he cannot lift it?
 
I don’t agree that physical virginity is an outdated concept.
We are all born virgins.

It is more what the current society teach us, and ours personals sins.

To pretend that it is no important at all, is like to say, we can do the right way, but only after having done the wrong things, because we cannot follow the God’s path all our life. It is a legitimation of sins for all people.
 
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