Daughter thinks she is Bi

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There was another classmate I had who called herself a lesbian since freshman year, but dated a guy she was in choir with senior year.
 
Intellectual dishonesty has many meanings so I’m not sure what exactly you are trying to say.
 
SeriousQuestion said:
Intellectual dishonesty has many meanings so I’m not sure what exactly you are trying to say.
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You never said you were speaking hypothetically until you were backed into a corner. If you want me to know what your intentions are you kinda have to, y’know, state them.
 
redbetta said:
Seen what? Teen girls fetishizing all things LGBT? That was basically my entire high school career. One classmate was skipping down the hallway gleefully one morning and announced that a guy from a band she liked is gay. If anything, you’d think a straight girl would be upset if a musician they like is gay because their chances of being with them became even more nonexistent than they already were. But, no, she was rejoicing that he was gay.
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May I ask how old you are?!? This is so removed from my high school experience. The gay people at my high school didn’t come out until college or after.

I don’t think I’m that old, graduated high school in 1995
 
redbetta said:
A lot can happen in 20 years.
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That’s true. 20 years ago high schoolers would have never celebrated homosexuality.

They might have been supportive of a homosexual friend as a person, but they would have never “skipped with joy” learning that someone was gay.

It’s amazing (not necessarily in a good way) how the TV show “Will & Grace” almost singlehandedly changed the public view of homosexuality.

It’s crazy, but you can watch TV programs over the years (starting around the mid 1960s with programs like “That Girl” and see how Hollywood has DRAMATICALLY changed the views of people regarding sexual norms by slowing getting people comfortable & used to ideas that fly in the face of traditional Christian & Jewish morality.

I mention “That Girl” because I watched one episode from season 1 (1966) this past week. While it encouraged chastity, it made light of divorce and showed the two characters attempting to justifying sharing a hotel room - though he slept on the couch (sharing a bed was not even an option). While they didn’t want to share a room, the hotel was out of rooms and they eventually felt they had no choice but to share the room.

But the episode introduced the idea “what’s so wrong with two adults sharing a hotel room?” And it also showed a couple getting married by a justice of the Peace - who made light of marriage due to his divorce.

Then, in the 1980s, you had shows like Three’s Company, etc hinting (A LOT) at fornication AND the slow acceptance of homosexuality.

Then, by the 1990s, we had shows like “Beverly Hills 90210” that showed lots of high schoolers having sex, drinking, skipping school, etc. While the show also had a redeeming theme throughout, and focus on family at the same time. “Party of Five” was the same way. But these shows further pushed the acceptance of fornication and co-habitation.

2000s - Will and Grace, which according to Joe Biden made him reject his Catholic upbringing to only accept gay marrage, but to actually marry two gay couples.

Today, we have shows where teenage characters are shown topless, actively having sex, actively engaging in bi-sexual situations, etc. Some of the programs out today are purely pornographic - esp on channels like Showtime, HBO, Hulu, Netflix, etc

The acting profession has been know, for thousands of years, of being filled with sexual sin. Even during the days before Christ when men played both the male and female parts then performed prostitution afterwards… Actors have always been know as sinners, but thanks to the “miracle of Hollywood” today people worship these sinners and the sins they promote.

God have mercy on us.
 
We need more Catholic artists out there actively shaping culture. People of a “conservative” bent tend to push their kids towards STEM, the trades, and other more “practical” fields with good job prospects. While it’s good to ensure your kid can keep a roof over their heads, it leaves the arts to the crazies and it is those people that actively shape culture and pull the carpet from under the feet of the backbone of society.
 
redbetta said:
We need more Catholic artists out there actively shaping culture. People of a “conservative” bent tend to push their kids towards STEM, the trades, and other more “practical” fields with good job prospects. While it’s good to ensure your kid can keep a roof over their heads, it leaves the arts to the crazies and it is those people that actively shape culture and pull the carpet from under the feet of the backbone of society.
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AMEN!!! Best argument of the day, hands down!
 
Hoosier-Daddy said:
Admittedly I was a late bloomer but at 12 I was no where near definining myself with a sexual lable. Much less “coming out” to a parent!
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What would you have had to “come out” about? Assuming you’re heterosexual, it’s usually not necessary to “come out” in that case. You usually only have to come out if you’re revealing something about yourself that you expect might not be well received by the person you’re telling it to.

I’m reminded of a scene in the recent movie Love, Simon which is about a gay high school student’s coming out story. He asks the question in the movie of why only gay people have to come out and there follows a few imaginary scenes of straight people coming out. A guy says to his parents who are seated together on a couch, “I have something I need to tell you…I like girls”. And his father says, “Are you trying to kill me!” Another imaginary scene has a girl saying to her mother, “I’m heterosexual” at which her mother bursts into tears.
 
I’m hoping to publish young adult novels some day. Pray I can do my part for the cause. It won’t be my day job.
 
phil19034 said:
May I ask how old you are?!? This is so removed from my high school experience. The gay people at my high school didn’t come out until college or after.
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I graduated high school in 1974, tough inner city school. Didn’t have homosexuals at all.

I was accused of being gay in 8th grade by a group of other boys. That’s the closest I came.

Of course what I did was wait until the smallest of those other boys came around and cold cocked him.

That was the last I heard about homosexuality.
 
I am not planning on making it explicitly Catholic. But I can guarantee you it won’t be poltically correct.
 
QwertyGirl said:
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phil19034:
It’s amazing (not necessarily in a good way) how the TV show “Will & Grace” almost singlehandedly changed the public view of homosexuality.
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I think it is a good thing. I remember days of way too much hate in this realm.
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Hate is a bad thing. But, thinking that homosexual acts are not gravely sinful is bad too.
 
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