Daughter thinks she is Bi

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Augustinian said:
I graduated high school in 1974, tough inner city school. Didn’t have homosexuals at all.
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You might not have known who the homosexuals in your school were, but there almost certainly were some. The most recent estimates are that 4% of the US population is LGBT, so if you had 100 people in your school, at least 4 of them were probably gay or lesbian or bisexual.
 
redbetta said:
I am not planning on making it explicitly Catholic. But I can guarantee you it won’t be poltically correct.
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That’s cool, what I meant by “Catholic fiction” is having a Catholic worldview.

For example: the Lord of the Rings books are considered Catholic fiction.

God Bless
 
phil19034 said:
For example: the Lord of the Rings books are considered Catholic fiction.
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Is it considered Catholic fiction just because the author was Catholic? There is nothing particularly Catholic about orcs and hobbits and wizards IMHO
 
phil19034 said:
Hate is a bad thing. But, thinking that homosexual acts are not gravely sinful is bad too.
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How sexual acts are viewed is very much dependent on what faith tradition someone comes from or if they even come from a faith tradition. Catholics also believe that masturbation is a mortal sin, but James Dobson, the founder of Focus on the Family had this to say about masturbation in his book Preparing for Adolescence (p. 83): “It is my opinion that masturbation is not much of an issue with God.”

I was raised Baptist and was never taught anything about masturbation being bad or sinful.
 
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Augustinian said:
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Thorolfr:
The most recent estimates are that 4% of the US population is LGBT
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The percentage is undoubtably a lot higher now, than it was back in the day
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Back in the day, it was thought that about 10% of the US population was gay based on Kinsey, but the 4% number is the most recent estimate of what it is now.
 
A child in my family had gone through this also but at a slightly younger age. It is important that they know it is a trick and temptation. Explain the Sacrament of Matrimony to her and how God designed man to marry persons of the opposite sex. Explain that God would not logically allow deviance from His set plan, and that is how we see it is a trick. A mention on the state of the globe and how it’s changing to the worse and many follow the devil’s tricks.

His time is almost up. The world is quickly ending so he is working hard to make a mockery of human sexuality in all it’s expressions. You can tell her to trust that it is infatuation and not sexual love. Sometimes we may find a special reason to love a special friend, and that is OK. But we need always to be careful that we control and analyze all our situations to ensure there is no trickery in the relationship.

It may be a good idea to distance the two for a short time and have her focus on other interests. Perhaps in subtle ways this can be done. Shorten private time between them and choose new contacts where they are not alone and new potential friends are available. Ask the Holy Mother for help in the meantime. She’s a Mom too.
 
Augustinian said:
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phil19034:
For example: the Lord of the Rings books are considered Catholic fiction.
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Is it considered Catholic fiction just because the author was Catholic? There is nothing particularly Catholic about orcs and hobbits and wizards IMHO
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This Lighthouse Talk from the Augustine Institute (fomerly Lighthouse Catholic Media) discusses it FAR better than I ever could

 
OK!
My mistake was thinking, if I refused their staying company w their weird friends, they’d sneak and be w them anyway. I thought, the weird kids could receive good examples, of Gods love here. STUPID!
Stop the relationship. Talk to the other mother, who may not know what is going on.
We are permitted by God to go from birth to death w/o HAVING SEX! NO…
Yes! We are to be pure in mind, soul and body. Our bodies are Temples of the Holy Spirit. Only ppl to have sex are married couples for procreation! Did you ever ask yourself, if after menopause, can we have sex? HMMMM YES, we can.
Kids aren’t mature enough at this age to have relationships w sex. You can’t trust what is out there or, of what they are speaking.My precious child was 3 doors down at a friends house. The friend was
12 and sexually active! The friend & My daughter sneak over to the boyfriends house (together) while the two stumbled through a precious act for martiage, a friend of the boy(ahoy) started to begin this activity w my 11 yo daughter. It started to hurt and she said stop. I found this out 10 yrs later. HUH! This teen sub-culture is pushing ahead w it’s agenda… Parents aren’t included. No sleep overs. If you allow her to go over other kids houses for homework(?) Call the Mom. Have her call when she gets there and when she leaves. Best thing is enroll kids in music, sports whatever. Keep them tired and busy. It’s scary out there. Trans genders switching bathrooms. Talking at young ages that they could be Bi. Bi what? SIGH.
Proms! There suppose to get us aware of fine dressing and manners. Then, we’d clumsily get use to talking to a heterosexual boy. It helped us learn to socialize. Kids said,” FORGET THAT!”
Teo girls went to prom together (not gay) Boys go together w tuxedos and sneakers. Kids are gay now. IDK in your little corner of the world, if you get blue, pink and green hair on the boys s Mohawks… PROMS are a fizzle.
How teenagers sabotaged a beautiful system is beyond me. They tell you what they’re going to do. You say no! Then, they say, they won’t go. Then, you feel bad they miss THEIR PROM! Manipulation. You have yet to do the Prom thing. Good luck!
There is online schools now via Computers. Casually isolate. Ballet. Etc. By 18 yo, maybe they’ll know what they think they are!!! Acting out homosexuality is a sin. Being homosexual is not a sin.
There are gay men that want families and suffer through a heterosexual marriage and enjoy the goal of family…
I hope you can have dreams still and not nightmares.
Lord, heal our hurts that may still be lingering. You know ALL, in my family. Help this Mom be wiser than I. Keep Your love centered in the family. Have them start praying the Rosary together. That may Center this family on You. Let the fruits of their Spirits be souls secured in You!
In Jesus name
Amen
Jeremiah 29/11. I HAVE A PLAN FOR YOU. IT IS A GOOD PLAN w/o EVIL. IT HAS A PURPOSE AND A FUTURE.

For you: Ephesians 3: 14-21.
 
Correct me if I’m wrong but being bi in itself isn’t sinful, provided that she doesn’t act on her desires. This includes promoting the LGBT movement, which she seems to be doing, in a way and that would be wrong
 
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You aren’t wrong my orginal post was poorly worded. I am aware that engaging in act is the sin, but I thank you for bringing to attention.
 
I struggle with the language of fluidity in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation. I think it has created such confusion, uncertainty and ambiguity. I don’t think things are as fluid as many people claim. Having said that, I don’t want to diminish the real issues or realities of those people who struggle as they work through gender identity and sexual orientation issues. I just think that sometimes the language we use is not always helpful in supporting people who are struggling. I do believe that people go through phases in finding themselves.
 
It’s a hard thing to measure changes in sexuality, because how people reply will depend on both their sexuality and their trust in whether it is safe to be honest about their sexuality (if not the norm). Kinsey estimated prevalence of homosexual attraction at 10% back at a time before social acceptance. Now we are living in a time that is generally more accepting, that 10% is starting to seem reasonably realistic.
 
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Al1234 said:
I struggle with the language of fluidity in relation to gender identity and sexual orientation. I think it has created such confusion, uncertainty and ambiguity.
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I think it is worth remembering that the concept of fluidity came from the evidence of people’s testimony. It is the data that points to fluidity (more so in females than males). So fluidity existed before it was described.
 
It’s opinion based on common sense and reasoning. Are you suggesting humans are not learned creatures? The documented cases of humans being raised by animals shows them continuing to act as the feral creatures when rescued from such situations. In fact, if there is one I’d like to be presented with a more common sense answer as to how one could possibly be inflicted with the malady in question.
 
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Sure. I just cant help thinking that it is not the actual orientation that is fluid but rather what people go through as a process self discovery, self understanding, self acceptance or a combination of these. In other words perceived experience is what is being reported. One should therefore not jump to conclusions too quickly or be too quick to take on labels. I guess this could go in circles and become a chicken or egg discussion. Not saying I am an expert, just considering.
 
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