Days of Creation

[redneck22]

When properly understood there is no contradiction between Gen 1 and 2. One speaks to the order of creation, the other the importance of man.

There is no contradiction, when our Lord Jesus was confronted by those silly Pharisees with their “tricky” questions He quoted Genesis 1 and 2 together and they fit like hand and glove. If He had said something wrong the Pharisees would have spoken up.

“And there came to him the Pharisees tempting him, and saying: Is it lawful for a man to put away his wife for every cause?
4 Who answering, said to them: Have ye not read, that he who made man from the beginning, Made them male and female? (Gen 1:27) And he said:
5 For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife, and they two shall be in one flesh.(Gen 2:24)
6 Therefore now they are not two, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let no man put asunder.”

It’s also interesting that genetics demonstrates that woman could have only come from man and not man from woman. Man has chromosomes XY and woman has XX, so when God created Eve from Adam’s side He didn’t need to create anything new, so they are “one flesh”.

 

[seagal]

I wouldn’t depend on science to explain the mysteries of the universe. They have no idea how old the universe is or if there was a big bang. It 's all theory. They are still arguing over how the moon was created. What moon creation theory do you hold to?

I know that scientists certainly haven’t found out everything about the universe and a lot of it is theory, but are you saying you don’t trust anything that they’ve discovered?

AND BTW this is my 1000th post :extrahappy:

 

[AlanFromWichita]

I know that scientists certainly haven’t found out everything about the universe and a lot of it is theory, but are you saying you don’t trust anything that they’ve discovered?

AND BTW this is my 1000th post :extrahappy:

Congrats on the 1000th post!

I suspect the anti-scientists, in order to maintain the claim that all theory is useless, had better not ride in a car, go into a skyscraper, take an airplane trip, or ingest any medicine. It’s all just a bunch of guesswork, and we can’t say for 100% sure that these things will work on any given day, so we’d better leave them completely alone.

Alan

 

[GreggAlvarez]

What do you mean when you say that the 2nd story is older than the 1st? How do we know which story came first if the Jewish tradition of history is oral?

Sorry about that… I meant it is believed that it was written first. I should have proof-read.

 

[ServantJohn]

Thank you for pointing that out. I normally just use the NAB.

So the DR bible doesn’t use the word “then.”

Does that mean that the NAB is misquoting God?

Alan

Had to pull out the parallel with the NASB to find all of those "then"s in it, but none of them say God created man and THEN vegetation.

 

[AlanFromWichita]

Had to pull out the parallel with the NASB to find all of those "then"s in it, but none of them say God created man and THEN vegetation.

Agreed. I don’t need to define “then” for Genesis 2 account.

For it, we need to discuss “at the time when” and “while.”
Gen 2:4b-7:

At the time when the LORD God made the earth and the heavens – while as yet there was no field shrub on earth and no grass of the field had sprouted, for the LORD God had sent no rain upon the earth and there was no man to till the soil, but a stream was welling up out of the earth and was watering all the surface of the ground – the LORD God formed man out of the clay of the ground and blew into his nostrils the breath of life, and so man became a living being.

Thank you for the reply. Sorry it took a while for me to answer – I’ve been so busy breaking my Lenten observance that this thread scrolled off page 1 of the search for my posts. :slapfight:

Alan

 

[ServantJohn]

Agreed. I don’t need to define “then” for Genesis 2 account.

For it, we need to discuss “at the time when” and “while.”

Thank you for the reply. Sorry it took a while for me to answer – I’ve been so busy breaking my Lenten observance that this thread scrolled off page 1 of the search for my posts. :slapfight:

Alan

Here are a few more that you can compare with what you provided.

Genesis 2:4-7 ASV
(4) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven.
(5) And no plant of the field was yet in the earth, and no herb of the field had yet sprung up; for Jehovah God had not caused it to rain upon the earth: and there was not a man to till the ground;
(6) but there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
(7) And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:4-7 DRB
(4) These are the generations of the heaven and the earth, when they were created, in the day that the Lord God made the heaven and the earth:
(5) And every plant of the field before it sprung up in the earth, and every herb of the ground before it grew: for the Lord God had not rained upon the earth; and there was not a man to till the earth.
(6) But a spring rose out of the earth, watering all the surface of the earth.
(7) And the Lord God formed man of the slime of the earth: and breathed into his face the breath of life, and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:4-7 MKJV
(4) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created in the day that Jehovah God made the earth and the heavens.
(5) And every shrub of the field was not yet on the earth, and every plant of the field had not yet sprung up, for Jehovah God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was no man to till the ground.
(6) But there went up from the earth a mist and watered all the face of the ground.
(7) And Jehovah God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:4-7 NASB
(4) This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.
(5) Now no shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no plant of the field had yet sprouted, for the LORD God had not sent rain upon the earth, and there was no man to cultivate the ground.
(6) But a mist used to rise from the earth and water the whole surface of the ground.
(7) Then the LORD God formed man of the dust from the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

Genesis 2:4-7 KJV
(4) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens,
(5) And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground.
(6) But there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
(7) And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:4-7 JPS
(4) These are the generations of the heaven and of the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven.
(5) No shrub of the field was yet in the earth, and no herb of the field had yet sprung up; for the LORD God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground;
(6) but there went up a mist from the earth, and watered the whole face of the ground.
(7) Then the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

Genesis 2:4-7 ESV
(4) These are the generations of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made the earth and the heavens.
(5) When no bush of the field was yet in the land and no small plant of the field had yet sprung up–for the LORD God had not caused it to rain on the land, and there was no man to work the ground,
(6) and a mist was going up from the land and was watering the whole face of the ground–
(7) then the LORD God formed the man of dust from the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living creature.

Genesis 2:4-7 LITV
(4) These are the generations of the heavens and of the earth when they were created in the day that Jehovah God was making earth and heavens.
(5) And every shrub of the field was not yet on the earth, and every plant of the field had not yet sprung up; for Jehovah God had not sent rain on the earth, and there was no man to till the ground.
(6) And mist went up from the earth and watered the whole face of the ground.
(7) And Jehovah God formed the man out of dust from the ground, and blew into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.