Daytona Beach father beats man he found raping son, police say

[Tenofovir]

Because making excuses for bad priests and the Church is the normal reaction for many, especially on CAF.

I am all for calling things as they are, even if it makes me look bad. I dont believe in excuse making. Wrong is wrong. So for all those who thumbs up and pat the father in the back, is quite hypocritical. I dont know whether the beating was justified or how I wouldve reacted, but I certainly dont think taking pride in such an action is the right thing regardless.

Well said. Taking pride in such an action, unless it was in actual defense of his child and was no more than necessary to stop the aggressor, is simply wrong. It’s not Christian. These days there are effective courts of law and police forces which can help avoid vigilante justice.

People seem to lose it also when it comes to children. So many people actually hate our church because of these pedophile priest scandals and all the good the church does, seems to not matter because a tiny percentage of priests molested children-- it is a crime on par with Nazism or Muslim Fundamentalism one would think from the reactions. (Of course it’s also a convenient excuse.)

 

[Avdima]

Sad to read there are people saying they would of killed the guy. A lot of anti-Christan attitudes when it come to other peoples sins it seems. I feel sorry for both the son who was raped and the rapist who was beaten. I hope the father of the child gets help for his anger issues and violent outbursts.

 

[vz71]

I hope the father of the child gets help for his anger issues and violent outbursts.

The righteous anger felt towards the rapist is not an ‘anger issue’.

 

[Tenofovir]

The righteous anger felt towards the rapist is not an ‘anger issue’.

If it was excessive it is, and it can mean the man has anger issues. He could beat up an innocent person next.

And from the POV of justice, should the rapist get a reduced sentence because his face has already been pummeled by this man, or not? If not, is it just to have additional punishment incurred upon someone?

BTW rape is an act of penetration. This need not have been that and so it’s also inaccurate to describe it as such. And no I’m not deafening child abusers. They need to atone for their sins and need to be charged and prosecuted, and if temporary force is needed to protect the victim, then it’s morally correct to do so, obviously.

 

[DeniseNY]

Sad to read there are people saying they would of killed the guy. A lot of anti-Christan attitudes when it come to other peoples sins it seems. I feel sorry for both the son who was raped and the rapist who was beaten. I hope the father of the child gets help for his anger issues and violent outbursts.

Plenty of condemnation for the father who reacted to his child being sexually assualted, and for posters here, yet nothing but sympathy for the rapist? Strange.

 

[vz71]

If it was excessive it is, and it can mean the man has anger issues. He could beat up an innocent person next.

If it was?
You seem to be assuming it was.

You also define anger issues incorrectly.
There has to be multiple incidents to form a pattern of ‘anger issues’.

 

[Tenofovir]

Plenty of condemnation for the father who reacted to his child being sexually assualted, and for posters here, yet nothing but sympathy for the rapist? Strange.

It’s not that at all. The father did what he was obliged to do, stop the assault. That he added some extra injury, possibly, is what’s contentious. There is no need to praise someone who did his duty, but since this is a Catholic religious forum questions of morality are raised about his behaviour and whether the beating he gave the molester, if it was beyond what’s necessary is morally correct and ideal. If it’s not ideal and as Catholics we should work beyond mere minimum but try to approach the perfection then it’s something worth talking about.

We all know rape (or sexual or other assault) is wrong and sinful. There is no need to repeat that. It’s not a point of discussion here. Also the rapist will get his punishment and has not been acquitted or let off because of the beating. The father has been let off. Maybe it’s a good thing, maybe it’s not a good thing, but that’s what discussion forums are for, discussing things .

 

[vz71]

It’s not that at all. The father did what he was obliged to do, stop the assault. That he added some extra injury, possibly, is what’s contentious.

The criminal was caught sexually assaulting the man’s son.

The father did what was necessary to stop the man and prevent future attacks.

I do not believe you have any information to indicate otherwise.

That the man is alive I consider miraculous. I doubt I would have had such restraint.

 

[Thorns]

Not as ridiculous and lacking in common sense as someone using what the Pope says to excuse the torturing of animals.

Where did I say animal torturers should be excused? Killing someone over an animal isnt intelligent. Killing a person to prevent the abuse of an animal isnt smart, because animals are not on equal level with humans and that is what Pope Francis was getting at.

FYI all you’d have to do is call the police. The penalty for animal abuse is hefty.

 

[Thorns]

It’s not that at all. The father did what he was obliged to do, stop the assault. That he added some extra injury, possibly, is what’s contentious. There is no need to praise someone who did his duty, but since this is a Catholic religious forum questions of morality are raised about his behaviour and whether the beating he gave the molester, if it was beyond what’s necessary is morally correct and ideal. If it’s not ideal and as Catholics we should work beyond mere minimum but try to approach the perfection then it’s something worth talking about.

We all know rape (or sexual or other assault) is wrong and sinful. There is no need to repeat that. It’s not a point of discussion here. Also the rapist will get his punishment and has not been acquitted or let off because of the beating. The father has been let off. Maybe it’s a good thing, maybe it’s not a good thing, but that’s what discussion forums are for, discussing things .

Its not even that the father did excessive damage, its that the beating seems to be aquiring praise on a Catholic forum, which I find odd.

Maybe the father had to beat the rapist, but the damage done to another human being is never praiseworthy, even if it is just. Indulging in such an act appears to amount to some degree of bloodlust.

Didnt Jesus call for us to ALSO visit those in prison? Yes, even rapists.

In this tragic scenario, there are no winners and everyone lost here.