December Republican Primary Poll

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So you believe Sweden (or the US or Germany or Japan or England) should make decisions based on the radical Islamist agenda? Many of the troops sent to Afghanistan are not allowed to engage in combat. I would be surprised if there is a Swedish Sniper or Special Ops team. More likely they were in the role of ‘peacekeepers’ or perhaps engaging in humanitarian missions. That they were not in Afghanistan for military action is apparently not relevant…infidels in an Islamist country! The horror of it all! No wonder they attack us!

Lisa
I think we should make foreign policy based on foreign intelligence. If we are doing more harm than good, then we need to change policy so that we are doing more good than harm.
 
Ah, so the CIA is wrong.

Of course.
You should note that they couched their statement carefully…“a” reason, not the main reason or the over-riding reason and some reference to “helping to recruit” potential terrorists rather than being a cause of terrorism. It’s Lefty-speak which invariably cannot admit there is EVIL in this world and tries desperately to find reasons for irrational acts.

Our government, particularly recently has been loathe to speak the truth with respect to radical Islam. The latest ridiculous statement that the Ft Hood Shooter (hollering Allah Akbar as he shot unarmed troops) was “workplace violence” is merely the latest piece of idiocy from the PC crowd.

Please respond to the statements rather than deflecting. Do you know of poor countries without radical Islam that are responsible for terrorism? Do you know of any non-Islamic terror groups? (well the Tamil Tigers but I understand they have been un-toothed). Why aren’t the desperately impoverished people in countries like Haiti or Honduras ripe targets for terrorist leaders? Were the 9/11 hijackers poor? Osama Bin Laden? The Underpants Bomber?

That dog don’t hunt!
Lisa
 
I have many libertarian views. I disagree with them completely on abortion and drugs, and almost completely on foreign policy,
That makes you a typical “conservative”. Personal freedom, non-interventionism, free markets, and sound monetary policies are what define libertarianism. You disagree with more than half of it. And Libertarians, (the rational ones) are pro-life, because abortion violates the non-aggression principle.
 
That makes you a typical “conservative”. Personal freedom, non-interventionism, free markets, and sound monetary policies are what define libertarianism. You disagree with more than half of it. And Libertarians, (the rational ones) are pro-life, because abortion violates the non-aggression principle.
Do not agree on the latter. I think the problem with Libertarians is their live and let live philosphy taken to extreme. Legalize drugs, dont interfere between a woman and her ‘choice.’ I have NEVER heard that the promotion and protection of life as any part of the Libertarian platform. That doesn’t mean none of them are pro-life, but if this is their overriding policy, I’ve never heard it from any of the major players

Lisa
 
Do not agree on the latter. I think the problem with Libertarians is their live and let live philosphy taken to extreme. Legalize drugs, dont interfere between a woman and her ‘choice.’ I have NEVER heard that the promotion and protection of life as any part of the Libertarian platform. That doesn’t mean none of them are pro-life, but if this is their overriding policy, I’ve never heard it from any of the major players

Lisa
Thomas Woods, Lew Rockwell, Jeffrey Tucker. The three of them are libertarians and traditional Catholics.

tomwoods.com/blog/a-libertarian-debate-on-abortion/

libertarianpapers.org/2010/16-wisniewski-block-on-abortion/

And the problem with the legalization of drugs has to do with morality and practicality. The former has to do with legislating morality. It’s frankly a slippery slope. Secondly, the war on drugs has created a lot of violence that cannot just be ignored.
 
Do not agree on the latter. I think the problem with Libertarians is their live and let live philosphy taken to extreme. Legalize drugs, dont interfere between a woman and her ‘choice.’ I have NEVER heard that the promotion and protection of life as any part of the Libertarian platform. That doesn’t mean none of them are pro-life, but if this is their overriding policy, I’ve never heard it from any of the major players

Lisa
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Whose a major player, if not Ron Paul? Who is Pro-Life, who has witnessed an abortion first hand.

Undoing federal drugs laws does not make drugs legal. But the fact that overcrowded prisons are full of people who have an addiction problem and should be treated as such shows that drug laws do need some work. We should separate those who need medical attention from those who should be punished for cooking meth in large quantities with intentions to distribute it.
 
Newt Gingrich’s assault on ‘activist judges’ draws criticism, even from right - Washington Post

"Newt Gingrich is giving fair warning to judges and courts across the country: If he becomes president, the judiciary won’t reign supreme. The former House Speaker and current Republican presidential front-runner convened a conference call with reporters on Saturday to expand on his call for Congress to subpoena judges or even abolish courts altogether if they make wrong-headed decisions. Those arguments from Gingrich at Thursday’s debate in Iowa drew scrutiny and criticism from his rivals. - Fox

Andrew McCarthy questions National Review’s critique of Gingrich - NRO

After avoiding Sunday morning interview shows for nearly two years, Mitt Romney makes tame return, sticking to talking points - Politico

…but the Wall Street Journal notices a more personal Romney: “Mitt Romney, described by some as too stiff and passionless to win the presidency, opened up a bit Sunday, recounting how he and his wife, Ann, learned years ago that she had multiple sclerosis.”

Romney: Obama is ‘Great Divider,’ doesn’t get how economy works - Fox

Rick Santorum in extended interview withThe Daily Caller

Independent groups supporting Republican presidential candidates have sprung to life, funding a flurry of new commercials in recent days to influence the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses and other early primary contests - USA Today

Evangelicals divided on whom to support in GOP presidential race - Washington Post
 
Results from CNN/ORC poll of Republicans released today: Mitt Romney and Newt Gingrich (28 percent), Ron Paul (14 percent), Michele Bachmann (8 percent), Rick Perry (7 percent), Rick Santorum (4 percent), and Jon Huntsman (2 percent).

When it comes to who would is best suited to campaign against Obama in the general election and who can get the economy moving again, Romney and Gingrich score about the same level of support. But when it comes to which candidate is the strongest leader, Gingrich is backed by 42 percent to Romney’s 26 percent. On the other hand, Romney is viewed as the most likeable candidate by 30 percent (15 percent see Gingrich that way), and when candidates’ “personal characteristics and qualities” are polled, Romney has 32 percent to Gingrich’s 21 percent.

nationalreview.com/corner/286198/nationally-romney-gingrich-tied-katrina-trinko

Note: national polls are interesting but primaries are won state by state.
 
Yeah, I’m not putting much stock into national polls. Most candidates aren’t focusing much on states besides Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina at this point, so I don’t see much predictive value in them. It would seem to me that national polls are more of a “who’s getting more coverage in the media” assay.
 
Do not agree on the latter. I think the problem with Libertarians is their live and let live philosphy taken to extreme. Legalize drugs, dont interfere between a woman and her ‘choice.’ I have NEVER heard that the promotion and protection of life as any part of the Libertarian platform. That doesn’t mean none of them are pro-life, but if this is their overriding policy, I’ve never heard it from any of the major players

Lisa
Libertarianism is NOT ararchism. Ben Franklin was a libertarian, as were most of the founding fathers. Apparently they are radical to you as well. THe libertarians that I hang with have a name for people who want the government to control every moment of our lives…control freaks. They infest the Democrat and Republican parties.
 
Yeah, I’m not putting much stock into national polls. Most candidates aren’t focusing much on states besides Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina at this point, so I don’t see much predictive value in them. It would seem to me that national polls are more of a “who’s getting more coverage in the media” assay.
What is important is the voters outside of IA and NH aren’t paying much attention to the race right now. And many of those who are are undecided.
 
Thomas Woods, Lew Rockwell, Jeffrey Tucker. The three of them are libertarians and traditional Catholics.

tomwoods.com/blog/a-libertarian-debate-on-abortion/

libertarianpapers.org/2010/16-wisniewski-block-on-abortion/

And the problem with the legalization of drugs has to do with morality and practicality. The former has to do with legislating morality. It’s frankly a slippery slope. Secondly, the war on drugs has created a lot of violence that cannot just be ignored.
You forgot Thomas DiLorenzo.
 
Thomas Woods, Lew Rockwell, Jeffrey Tucker. The three of them are libertarians and traditional Catholics.

tomwoods.com/blog/a-libertarian-debate-on-abortion/

libertarianpapers.org/2010/16-wisniewski-block-on-abortion/

And the problem with the legalization of drugs has to do with morality and practicality. The former has to do with legislating morality. It’s frankly a slippery slope. Secondly, the war on drugs has created a lot of violence that cannot just be ignored.
On abortion, I agree there are INDIVIDUALS who are pro-life. Heck there are even some Democrats and well known atheists who are pro-life. But that doesn’t negate the overall party platform which is the usual weasel-worded “between a woman and her doctor…blah blah blah.” You know slavery should be between a master and a slave, keep the government out.

Right.

Oh and the drug theory sounds great but where is some of the most hideous violence and between whom? In Mexico and between drug cartels. What does the US war on drugs have to do with Mexican drug cartels shooting each other and terrorizing innocent civilians? Drugs are not merely a morality issue so the claim that we can’t legislate morality is irrelevant. Drugs are a huge cost to society, a burden on our health and social services systems, a safety issue as well. Legalizing drugs would simply mean more drug use and more expenses to society.

Look I love the Libertarian view on many issues. But their lack of any stance to protect the unborn makes voting Libertarian a non starter for me.

Lisa
 
Negative advertising works. Romney is able to outspend Newt over 20-1 right now. Obviously, Romney, like Obama, has no good things to say about HIS record, so all he can do is trash the rest, hoping that he’ll still be standing on his rotted wooden leg at the end. :rolleyes: Rob
 
Libertarianism is NOT ararchism. Ben Franklin was a libertarian, as were most of the founding fathers. Apparently they are radical to you as well. THe libertarians that I hang with have a name for people who want the government to control every moment of our lives…control freaks. They infest the Democrat and Republican parties.
I love the way so many co-opt the Founding Fathers to promote their point of view. Limited government is not the claim of Libertarianism alone.

Further you completely lose credibility by claiming that if you aren’t Libertarian you “want government to control every moment of their lives.” Baloney! The Federal Government has certain specific, stated powers and I’d be delighted if they would stick to them. I do not want the government to pick my lightbulbs or tell me how many gallons my toilet can contain. I don’t want them telling me I can’t decide what to eat or whether I want to use plastic bags. THAT is an over-reach and you will have a hard time finding anyone in the Republican party that wants anything near that level of interference. Democrats yes. It’s not an either or proposition. One can want limited government and protection of unborn life without going to a nanny state perspective.

Protection of “Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness” is what our country was based on. Life is first for a reason. When the power of the state fails to protect the life of its citizens then its powers are not being utilized as designated. Protecting unborn life is a far cry from banning toys in the Happy Meal.

Lisa
 
On abortion, I agree there are INDIVIDUALS who are pro-life. Heck there are even some Democrats and well known atheists who are pro-life. But that doesn’t negate the overall party platform which is the usual weasel-worded “between a woman and her doctor…blah blah blah.” You know slavery should be between a master and a slave, keep the government out.
The official party platform says nothing like that. It leaves it open to the individual for you to be pro life or not. It would not advocate legislation to keep abortion legal on the federal level which is what the Democrats have achieved. Once the federal government is out of it then it’s open to fight at the state level.
Oh and the drug theory sounds great but where is some of the most hideous violence and between whom? In Mexico and between drug cartels. What does the US war on drugs have to do with Mexican drug cartels shooting each other and terrorizing innocent civilians? Drugs are not merely a morality issue so the claim that we can’t legislate morality is irrelevant. Drugs are a huge cost to society, a burden on our health and social services systems, a safety issue as well. Legalizing drugs would simply mean more drug use and more expenses to society.
Nonsense, legalizing drugs does not mean they are used more or legal. The federal government is part of the reason why drug cartels are as powerful as they are.
Look I love the Libertarian view on many issues. But their lack of any stance to protect the unborn makes voting Libertarian a non starter for me.
Voting for libertarians on the Federal level would overturn Roe V. Wade in a heartbeat and put it in the hands of the states where it needs to be. On the state level it would then be in the best interest to put pro life libertarians/conservatives in charge to protect the unborn.
 
The official party platform says nothing like that. It leaves it open to the individual for you to be pro life or not. It would not advocate legislation to keep abortion legal on the federal level which is what the Democrats have achieved. Once the federal government is out of it then it’s open to fight at the state level.

Nonsense, legalizing drugs does not mean they are used more or legal. The federal government is part of the reason why drug cartels are as powerful as they are.

Voting for libertarians on the Federal level would overturn Roe V. Wade in a heartbeat and put it in the hands of the states where it needs to be. On the state level it would then be in the best interest to put pro life libertarians/conservatives in charge to protect the unborn.
Your theories sound good but do not actually work. Here is the Libertarian Party Platform on abortion:

**1.4 Abortion

Recognizing that abortion is a sensitive issue and that people can hold good-faith views on all sides, we believe that government should be kept out of the matter, leaving the question to each person for their conscientious consideration.**

I don’t own slaves but I will leave it up to your “conscientious consideration” whether you own slaves. Right. This is simply weasel wording to avoid the issue. You think that ‘leaving it up to individual consciousness’ would result in repealing Roe? Really?

You think that legalizing drugs would not result in any increase? Really?

The federal government of the US is the reason cartels are so powerful? Really?

We’re all the world’s greatest expert on our own opinions but I’d really like some facts. You can see a microcosm of legalizing drugs based on what’s happened in the counties or states that totally relaxed the rules. It was a disaster and many of these relaxed rules have been tightened up substantially.

Now do I think we should jail someone for smoking a joint in his home? No. But that doesn’t mean I think heroin should be sold at Walgreens.

Lisa (looking for some facts)
 
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