December Republican Primary Poll

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States rights does not mean no constitution.
No, “states rights” is actually code word - to put it charitably and diplomatically - for the C.S.A. (Confederate States of America). A certain southern locale would have to freeze over first before I ever voted for a candidate running on “states rights” rhetoric - particularly the one who routinely gets endorsements from white power groups.
 
No, “states rights” is actually code word - to put it charitably and diplomatically - for the C.S.A. (Confederate States of America). A certain southern locale would have to freeze over first before I ever voted for a candidate running on “states rights” rhetoric - the particularly one who routinely gets endorsements from white power groups.
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Believe whatever nonsense you wish to believe, it’s a free country.
 
It’s not nonsense at all. Here’s but one news story corroborating my comment. You can also Google “Michael Medved’s Open Letter to Ron Paul” for more prayerful consideration.
I already know about these stories.

I could care less who supports him, the issue of states rights has nothing to do with white supremacy.
 
Perhaps you’re drawing some distiction between the Libertarian Party, and libertarian ideas?

From a libertarian (small l) perspective their ideas run the gamut, from libertarian socialism to anarchist libertarians.

For the Libertarian Party in the USA, there’s been a deep running division between free for all anarchist, night watchment minarchist, social conservatives…

When it comes to abortion, there is no formal stance from the Libertarian Party. They largely leave it up to the individual.
And that sir IS the problem. I am all for states doing what states do best and that is responding to the issues in their state.

The question of protecting LIFE should not be up to the states. Either it is wrong or it is not to take the life of an unborn baby. If it is wrong, then it is as wrong for Wyoming as for Massachusetts.

The problem with Libertarians is the lack of consistency in their stance. They claim to protect “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” but say that abortion is “left to the individual” So tell me, how would that work out if you used the same standard for other acts of evil? Gosh I don’t like viewing kiddie porn but hey if your conscience is clear and you aren’t “hurting anyone” then go for it.

I just have a REALLY hard time wrapping my head around the concept of a Libertarian Catholic. You cannot serve two masters and by capitulating on life issues so you can smoke dope legally makes no sense at all.

Lisa
 
And that sir IS the problem. I am all for states doing what states do best and that is responding to the issues in their state.

The question of protecting LIFE should not be up to the states. Either it is wrong or it is not to take the life of an unborn baby. If it is wrong, then it is as wrong for Wyoming as for Massachusetts.
Unfortunately you don’t have much of a choice when it comes to abortion. Overturning Roe is the quickest solution and that would make way for states to make it illegal. After that you might want to keep abortion as far away from the Federal government as possible just so you don’t end up with another Roe down the road.
The problem with Libertarians is the lack of consistency in their stance. They claim to protect “life, liberty and pursuit of happiness” but say that abortion is “left to the individual” So tell me, how would that work out if you used the same standard for other acts of evil? Gosh I don’t like viewing kiddie porn but hey if your conscience is clear and you aren’t “hurting anyone” then go for it.
This is a horrible argument, there is a child involved.
I just have a REALLY hard time wrapping my head around the concept of a Libertarian Catholic. You cannot serve two masters and by capitulating on life issues so you can smoke dope legally makes no sense at all.
If you want to pigeon hole libertarianism into pot heads who are more concerned about smoking pot than babies then you never will understand it.

I suggest keeping up with libertarian blogs from sites like the Mises Institute, you may be surprised to find that it’s not full of potheads.
 
Unfortunately you don’t have much of a choice when it comes to abortion. Overturning Roe is the quickest solution and that would make way for states to make it illegal. After that you might want to keep abortion as far away from the Federal government as possible just so you don’t end up with another Roe down the road.

This is a horrible argument, there is a child involved.

If you want to pigeon hole libertarianism into pot heads who are more concerned about smoking pot than babies then you never will understand it.

I suggest keeping up with libertarian blogs from sites like the Mises Institute, you may be surprised to find that it’s not full of potheads.
Look I am an admirer of well known Libertarians like John Stossel and Judge Andrew Neapolitano. I don’t need to read a blog to know what Libertarians think.

I see no reason that the Republican party which is supposed to also be small government isn’t the best of both worlds, pro life and also in its correct interpretation less involvement by the government. I guess the term Conservative is more appropriate than Republican because like Libertarians there are all stripes among the party. OTOH the Democrat party has become beholden to the abortion lobby to the point of suicide. So they are out for any practicing Catholic who actually lives their faith. The goal is to get the Republicans to start acting like Republicans and I think the Tea Party has to some extent pushed this along better than any other movement. Why not put your energy into making Republicans follow their heritage instead of branching out to a third party that will help insure Obama gets re-elected.

I guess I can’t see the point of a third party when you offer a seriously mixed bag. You will never get mainstream America to vote for a party that wants to legalize drugs, porn and prostitution. No matter how much they want to ratchet back government, I believe the majority of Americans, even liberals/progressives are against the social deviency that the Libertarian party supports. You’ve picked the worst of all worlds IMO.

Lisa
 
I guess I still have to ride with Ron Paul. I will probably stay with the Republican Party unless it is Gingrich. Perry will give me pause. I have an integrity issue with both.
 
I guess I still have to ride with Ron Paul. I will probably stay with the Republican Party unless it is Gingrich. Perry will give me pause. I have an integrity issue with both.
When you say you will probably stay with the Republican Party unless it is Gingrich, you don’t mean you will vote for Obama do you?
 
When you say you will probably stay with the Republican Party unless it is Gingrich, you don’t mean you will vote for Obama do you?
No, not at this point, nor can I see a situation where I could justify that.
 
Romney criticizes Gingrich on judges, outlines anti-abortion views

“Appearing on Fox News’ The O’Reilly Factor, the former Massachusetts governor said Gingrich’s proposals for taking on what he regards as excessive judicial activism – including abolishing whole courts – are unconstitutional. … Romney also said his handling of abortion was probably the biggest mistake he made as governor. At that time, he decided not to change provisions in Massachusetts’s abortion-rights laws based on the 1973 Roe v. Wade decision.” - National Journal

“The American legal establishment is not sure what to make of Newt Gingrich’s mounting attacks on the independence of the federal judiciary. Reactions vary from amusement to alarm. What is hard to find is approval.” - New York Times

Gingrich in defensive mode in Iowa

“Newt Gingrich spent Monday in defensive mode in Iowa trying to shift the message away from negative attacks on the day a new poll showed momentum slipping for the Republican presidential candidate. … Gingrich shot back at his rivals who have been questioning the competitive frontrunner’s conservative credentials.” - CNN

“Gingrich hasn’t reached rock bottom yet but political watchers in Iowa say the former speaker has done little to take advantage of his boomlet, avoiding the hard work necessary to convert popularity into success at the notoriously difficult caucuses.” - The Hill

Latest polling

“Gingrich and Romney are each favored by 30 percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. Running behind them is Rep. Ron Paul (Tex.), whose libertarian philosophy has attracted a strong following.” - Washington Post

“Gingrich and Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, are also deadlocked at the top of the Republican field in a CNN/ORC International poll released on Monday. And the latest Gallup tracking poll, conducted Dec. 13-18, shows Gingrich a scant two points ahead of Romney, his smallest lead in any rolling sample since the tracking poll was launched at the start of this month.” - National Journal

“Obama’s job-approval rating is now its highest since summer, according to a new Post-ABC poll.” - Washington Post

Rick Perry tries to save his campaign during busy Iowa campaign

“Mr. Perry, aiming to reintroduce himself to voters before the Jan. 3 Iowa caucuses, is casting himself as a political outsider equally conversant in job creation and scripture—with a heavy emphasis, at times, on the latter. … Some here seem ready to take a second look at Mr. Perry, who led in polls in Iowa this fall before a series of stumbles drained much of his support.” - Wall Street Journal ($)

Perry vows to appoint pro-gun justices to high court - USA Today
 
Delusional: Obama suggests he’s the fourth-best President of modern times

“With nary a mention of Solyndra or Fast & Furious, Steve Kroft’s recent 60 Minutes interview of President Obama was already one of the year’s finest examples of softball, newsless thumb-suckers that lead the right to tar reporters as liberals. … “As you yourself said, Steve, I would put our legislative and foreign policy accomplishments in our first two years against any president – with the possible exceptions of Johnson, FDR and Lincoln. You know, just in terms of what we’ve gotten done in modern history,” Obama said, according to a clip that never made it to broadcast.” - Miami Herald

Following New York special election win for Republicans, Democrats are taking no chances in upcoming OR-1 election

“The Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has launched a blistering, high-priced offensive aimed at cutting down Republican Rob Cornilles and boosting the party’s prospects in a race it should win easily. It has reserved around $1 million on the Portland airwaves, airing TV ads hammering Cornilles as an enemy of entitlement programs and casting him as a tea party pawn.” - Politico

And finally 1 … Mitt Romney on the Late Show with David Letterman

"“Newt Gingrich… really,” joked Romney as if he were questioning the rise of his closest competitor in the race for the Republican nomination. And the big reveal came at number one, when Mitt Romney shared that his widely admired hair was “a hairpiece.” … “What’s up gangstas, it’s the M-i-double tizzle,” Romney said at number 9. “My new cologne is now available at Macy’s. It’s Mitts-tified,” was number 5.” - CNN

And finally 2… lesser-known presidential candidates debate in New Hampshire

““I am here to tell you about thorium – an overlooked energy alternative,” Democratic presidential candidate Bob Greene said. And then, there’s Vermin Supreme – a veteran candidate and consummate anti-politician. “My name is Vermin Supreme. I am a friendly fascist. I am a tyrant that you should trust,” Democratic presidential candidate Vermin Supreme said.” - WMUR
 
VIDEO: Well-funded negative ad campaign is pulling Gingrich’s poll ratings back to earth

Why is Obama doing better in the polls?

There is polling evidence that Obama’s payroll holiday tactic is working with voters - Greg Sargent in the Washington Post
PowerLine, however, explains the small Obama bounce by divisions in the GOP field: “The GOP candidates should be showing a united front, directing their fire at Obama and competing to be the most effective anti-Obama candidate in the fall.”
Nate Silver posits better economic expectations for Obama’s recovery but warns that those expectations are reversible.

Fred Barnes on Obama’s big tactic

“Short of an economic turnaround and a suddenly booming housing market, Obama is wary of running on his record. Instead, he’s trying to turn middle class Americans against Republicans, accusing them of defending the interests of the rich. And he’s shaped his policies—on taxes, especially—and his speeches to promote this division.” - Fred Barnes in the Weekly Standard

In The Hill Judd Gregg urges Republicans to call Obama’s bluff on taxing millionaires: “Take away the president and his party’s primary issue of sophistry built on raising taxes on the super-rich, and make them debate what they hate — reducing the size of the government.”

Gingrich asks Romney to get negative ads off the air

“The Super PAC backing presidential candidate Mitt Romney, which has blistered Newt Gingrich in this state, became the center of controversy on Tuesday, when Mr. Gingrich demanded its attack ads be pulled and said Mr. Romney was being “purely dishonest” in his refusal to intervene.” - WSJ

“I don’t object to being outspent, I object to lies,” Gingrich told reporters in a feisty press conference Tuesday after he spoke to a group of employees at a manufacturing plant here in rural Southeast Iowa. “I object to negative smear campaigns.” - LA Times

“He’s running neck and neck with Romney in two national polls released yesterday: tied at 28 in the CNN poll, tied at 30 in Washington Post/ABC news sample. But he has totally collapsed in Iowa–down to the mid-teens after his feverish ascent to the mid-30s…was it only last week? In one poll, he’s even running behind Rick Perry. The difference is that Iowa has been bombarded with anti-Gingrich advertising. The ads have been brilliantly effective.” - TIME

Romney: The Choice is Merit Society or “Entitlement Society” - WSJ

“Mitt Romney framed the 2012 presidential election in a speech here Tuesday night as a choice between an “entitlement society” dependent on government welfare and an “opportunity society” that enables businesses to flourish.” - Washington Post

Romney says his 25% rating is a floor, not a ceiling: “One of the things that’s sort of hard for me to figure out is why we didn’t say this about John McCain four years ago. He never broke the 25%,” said Mr. Romney. “I don’t recall people who got 40% or 50% until the primaries began.”" - Quoted by the WSJ

Iowa faith leaders endorse Rick Santorum - USA Today

Santorum is the one candidate who could do a Huckabee in Iowa - NRO

Why Rick Santorum is more impressive in person than Rick Perry - Walter Shapiro for The Ticket

"The RNC’s new nominating contest paves the way for a protracted delegate fight this spring, likely drying up the resources of the presumptive nominee before the general election." - Roll Call

Is a brokered convention just a fantasy? A splintered Republican field and new party rules mean it just might happen - Michael Medved for the Daily Beast

2011 was the year in which ObamaCare began to unravel without much help from Republicans - Daily Caller
 
I already know about these stories.

I could care less who supports him, the issue of states rights has nothing to do with white supremacy.
Ya, the whole “state’s rights = white power” canard has gotten old, considering how lame the arguement is.
 
I guess I still have to ride with Ron Paul. I will probably stay with the Republican Party unless it is Gingrich. Perry will give me pause. I have an integrity issue with both.
I have officially ended my support of the Republican Party. They are just big-government statists like the Democrats, they just want to control your life in different ways. 🤷
 
Ummmm… the latest IA poll from Rasmussen:

Rasmussen poll shows Romney leading 25%, Paul 20%, Gingrich 17%

rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/iowa/2012_iowa_republican_caucus

If Romney takes IA this game is all but over.
Rasmussen, the same polling group that was the most off before the 2008 election? 🙂

Also, remember that Rasmussen polls Republicans, whereas others poll likely caucus voters.
 
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