Deciding to homeschool?

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Trump’s Secretary of Education. Your dreams will come true if she has her way because she hates public schools and public school teachers, like you seem to do.
I don’t hate anyone. I hate having to pay for something that I have no use for. If sending your kids to public school works for you, then God bless you. I think it’s a horrible idea for my kids. To me, public school is akin to prison.
 
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Yes, please send all those special needs kids, plus the ones from broken homes and those whose families are struggling with all kinds of economic, social, emotional and addiction issues to the public schools. That way your smart kids can learn the really cool stuff without being hassled by those who are less fortunate
In my opinion, special needs kids need their parents even more than “normal” ones and public school is an even worse environment for them to be in. Let families take care of their families.
 
Some posters mentioned my concerns in teaching; I’ll try and address that first. One is my kids age range: one is 8 the other 2. I’m not sure how to keep them both occupied and learning when they are at such different developmental stages. To be honest, the “not fair” whining I’m imagining when one is getting time the other isn’t, or the two year old is playing with playdoh while the other has to math, well, it gives me a headache just thinking about it. 😉
Yes, a boxed curriculum with support sounds like it would be the best decision for you. There are MANY fully accredited homeschool curriculum these days. And honestly, as someone who worked in higher ed–you are only doing your kid favors by using a curriculum.

Once you have an established schedule homeschooling with an 8 and 2 year old is VERY do-able.

Remember, while a child is in school there is TONS of “wasted” time–more on this later.

You can do many things together that benefit the 8 yo and entertain the 2yo. Does your little one still nap?

My schedule with a 10yo and toddler went like this

8am Breakfast, prayers, chat

8:30 School start. Toddler got a toy while I got big kid started on an “independent” subject, typically reading. She read, I played with the toddler and did chores.

We’d go on and off like this till lunch. At lunch, typically noon, we’d pow-wow again and all talk about our day. Well–toddler would mostly just make noise but we let her “talk”. We then went for a walk/bike ride/snowshoe and then big kid had off until nap time.

At 1:30 it was nap time and I had 2 hours to focus on getting down to what “really” needed to be done. Most days we were done in 45 minutes to an hour and a half. Only when big kid had a bad day did we need more time.

And 3:30 got the toddler up, both had a snack and it was play time.

Some days our AM had an activity (Mondays we had a social/STEM group and Thursdays she had science class–at one of 3 places that coordinated the schedule) so we took the entire nap time to do subjects.

Other field trips we planned WAY in advance so it was a day off of school.

And we were doing Seton–so not exactly a walk in the park.

One thing the “wasted” time in school is often learning things like taking turns, waiting and patience. Homeschoolers NEED to seek these sorts of situations out if they want to have an adult who can manage these situations.
 
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I know of atleast 2 cases of families with SPED kids who are better off in a public school due to the intense amount of help they need. The other children in their families are a mix of Catholic school and homeschool depending on the individual child’s needs.
Yes, please send all those special needs kids, plus the ones from broken homes and those whose families are struggling with all kinds of economic, social, emotional and addiction issues to the public schools. That way those smart, home-school kids can learn the really cool stuff without being hassled by those who are less fortunate
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So my friend, with 7 children, who is very Catholic and has decided on what is best for each of her children is somehow creating a situation where her “home-schooled” kids can learn really cool stuff without the “hassle” of a SPED sibling.

Your attitude is disgusting and appalling.

Her daughter gets 1:1 aid who works with her on occupational, speech and behavioral therapy ALL DAY.

Her other children, who go to the Catholic school, get the interaction they need for their development.

Her children who are homeschooled get a quiet house with some 1:1 mom time to learn how they need.

At 3 pm they are all together again. And having all their needs met they are all able to better function.

Maybe if she only had her SPED daughter she would be able to give her the 1:1 attention that she needs to thrive. Her daughter is her second child, after all. Maybe she should of stopped having children so she could have the homeschool dream she always wanted and planned for. Certinally without 5 younger children she’d be able to do the therepies and get her child to the therepies she needs to be her best.
 
Our kids probably average about 3 hours of Catholic homeschool curriculum a day. They get every bit as much education as their public school friends without all the wasted time and progressive indoctrination. Plus, they can spend the majority of the day working on skills that they are good at. We have a teenage daughter who is a gifted artist. She gets school out of the way and draws for hours a day. She’s young and already has more commissions than she knows what to do with.
 
We’re planning on homeschooling, mainly for financial and academic reasons. We can’t afford a good school district or parochial school around here, the class sizes in the Catholic schools are huge (24 or more students!), and there is very little recess time. Our parish school is very orthodox and the families are lovely, but I’m not going to pay $600 a month for such a huge class size (not to mention only 3 sports, only one foreign language, etc when compared to the public schools that offer a lot more in those areas). I didn’t have a class over 16 students until I went to university.
 
Wow, I had no idea there was a way to help kids get their associates during high school. That’s huge.
 
Wow, I had no idea there was a way to help kids get their associates during high school. That’s huge.
To be fair, getting your associate’s in high school is NOT a solo design of homeschooling.

I worked at 2 community colleges and they BOTH had “dual enrollment” programs and articulation agreements with the local public high schools. It’s VERY common these days.

Rather than doing (useless) AP classes the students would choose to enroll at the end of their freshman year as dual enrolled students. Through a combination of CLEP and going to class during the school year and summer, they’d get enough credits for a degree over 3 years. Each year there were 50-100 graduates (out of 1.5k associate’s graduates) who were actually in high school. What was humorous is that they’d graduate with an AS in May and graduate Highschool in June.

And that dosn’t include the couple hundred dual enrolls who never met the AS requirments but still had anywhere from 1-3 semesters completed.
 
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You are right, of course.

But having attended public school I know they can throw in a lot of hurdles for students who want to participate in those programs. It is nice to know there is a homeschool option.

Thank you, you have given me a wealth of information and a lot to think about!
 
At our local school district, I asked the high school if they had any dual credit programs. From my own experience, I learned that if you’re going for a BA or a soft science, it’s good to get the hard science out of the way ahead of time; if you’re not a language major, it’s good to get the language accomplished at a less rigorous school/pace; and getting things done early was more affordable than the 4-year prices. So being able to take 8 hours of science and 8 hours of foreign language at Community College was awesome-- those two things saved me an entire semester of hard classes, and let me graduate with my double-major on time. (At my 4-year university, kids who had taken 4 years of Spanish in high school were flunking out in the first two weeks.) So I wanted to see what the local high schools were offering for my kids, so I could prep them accordingly.

Our public school will probably have different offerings before my kids get that far, but at the moment, they only offer dual credit for kids who are interested in enrolling in a nursing program out of high school. There might have been something else as well— maybe an ag science sort of thing, for kids who were getting into a ranching/farming degree. But if you weren’t going into either of those two majors, you didn’t have any options your junior/senior year of public school high school.

So there’s going to be a lot of variety, depending on your school district, and what your local community college is “known for”. If you’re in a more urban area, like where I grew up, you’ll have more opportunities, but if you’re in a more remote/rural area, you might have to take advantage of online opportunities if what’s in your immediate geographic area isn’t a good match for your kids’ inclinations.
 
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My apologies.

It appeared to me as if you were being sarcastic rather then sincere because you made a dig at homeschool students.

My friend would LOVE to homeschool her daughter. She really would. But she cannot…not when she has other children to worry about. What is best for them and what is best for her daughter is all different. And while the SPED program is great, the rest of the school isn’t what her other kids need. It’s not about “dumping” her SPED daughter with a public school. It’s about each and ever individual child.

Her 2nd son is extremely gifted and he’s looking to get into a publicly-run charter school for STEM students. They’re doing physics in 6th grade.

My point is that public school should never be ruled out as some posters suggest. You can’t until you know what your child needs and if you can provide it.
 
My point is that public school should never be ruled out as some posters suggest. You can’t until you know what your child needs and if you can provide it.
I agree that it should not be ruled out, but those who have no use for it should not be required to pay for it.
 
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Xanthippe_Voorhees:
My point is that public school should never be ruled out as some posters suggest. You can’t until you know what your child needs and if you can provide it.
I agree that it should not be ruled out, but those who have no use for it should not be required to pay for it.
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There’s a soverign citizen thread that might be right for you.
 
It’s funny, and I don’t mean this in a disrespectful way, that we both value homeschooling and yet I disagree with almost everything you’ve posted in this thread. 🤷‍♀️
 
That’s fine! Just be glad I’m not homeschooling your kids. Mine agree with me and that’s all I care. My wife teaches them well.
 
Political commentary aside, I appreciate the responses I received here. It’s helping me to do some more research. I feel much more confident that I could pull it off if needed and it’s nice to know there are people here I can talk to if/when I need more concrete advice or direction.

I’m still going to hope we end up with a bunch of good options, including a great public school system; but, knowing we can focus on just getting that new job is nice.
 
Political commentary aside, I appreciate the responses I received here. It’s helping me to do some more research. I feel much more confident that I could pull it off if needed and it’s nice to know there are people here I can talk to if/when I need more concrete advice or direction.

I’m still going to hope we end up with a bunch of good options, including a great public school system; but, knowing we can focus on just getting that new job is nice.
Even if you don’t go with them, I’d recommend calling Seton or Kolbe and speaking to their counselors. They are a real confidence booster.

If your husband is not on board, Seton is REALLY comforting. They not only do an intake test, but they will also allow you to do this “intake” assessment again at the end of the year—or even mid-year. My sister is in a situation where she has a good-for-nothing ex who ONLY wants to make trouble. My niece couldn’t fail 3rd grade because she’d already failed first and NCLB didn’t allow her to fail again. So Seton allowed us to do an assessment before (to which 😩 she showed 1st and 2nd grade comprehension in most subjects). Midyear she was more on track, and by the end she had mastered all 4th.

On the IOWA she showed a few things still in 2nd (which was still a jump) and up to “completed” 6th grade in Math. Yeah, the kid who didn’t test in a single area as more than “early 3rd” finished the year with middle school math skills.

She is in public school now because she really needs 1:1 help for her learning disabilities. For the first time in her life, she’s enjoying school. If she was my child…I’m not sure what I’d do. I did really well helping her through many things, but I have to say there is something to be said for the rigorous professional attention she’s getting in some areas.
 
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