Democrats excluding Catholics

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HCTC said:
It is past time to stop placing blame on people who are not the real decision-makers and turn attention to the individuals who make the real decision about an abortion.
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Everybody who supports abortion is a “decision-maker” who makes a “real decision” to support abortion.
 
Ridgerunner said:
Everybody who supports abortion is a “decision-maker” who makes a “real decision” to support abortion.
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Then you must believe that a situation where every man is the father of every child would be advantageous for children. I do not. I believe that it is crucial to the well-being of children that their parents take full responsibility.
 
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jagged said:
You’re right. Most Republicans don’t take into account that Trump is a serial adulterer who exhibits the sort of behavior that results in many abortions. So much for that value voter stuff, eh?
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I clearly said they did, but it was less relevant to getting the job than his position on the issues.
 
Why do you think I might be experiencing “self-righteous indignation”? I stated some facts and pointed out where your attempts to show that Catholics vote for Republicans because they " no longer have the stomach for the gospel message of providing for the poor, caring of widows and orphans, freeing the oppressed? But, I guess they have a convenient scapegoat to avoid the uncomfortable feeling of guilt" is a total fail.

So, basically, the fact that Catholics actually do what they can to provide for the poor, and at higher levels than those who vote for people who have reserve their compassion regarding pregnancy for those who want to have sex whenever and with whomever they want rather than for the babies they conceive in their reckless disregard for reality.

Sorry, what I have no stomach for is the verbal perversions pro-abortion soi-disant Catholics emit to justify their position and for the useful idots who support them.

Who are the moneychangers in this equation?
 
jagged said:
You say they did, but then they are the same people that defend his adulterous affairs, so I don’t think they really cared. Maybe you did and held your nose when you voted for him, but I doubt many did.
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You are imagining things.
Haven’t seen anyone here ‘defend’ is affairs. They just don’t find them as pertinent to being POTUS as you do.

I expect positions were reversed when it was Clinton with a sordid past.
 
Those positions most certainly were, as K well recall, and documented just the other day for Dvdjs.
 
HCTC said:
Then you must believe that a situation where every man is the father of every child would be advantageous for children. I do not. I believe that it is crucial to the well-being of children that their parents take full responsibility.
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Ridgerunner said:
As big a non sequitur as I have seen in some time.
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You fail to follow the logic that responsibility should rest first with the mother of an unborn child and extend also to the father and the support of family members? You don’t think that working to instill a faith in the sanctity of life is more important than pinning blame of politicians?
 
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I did nkt mean to post but to abandon my post.
 
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Annie said:
Why do you think I might be experiencing “self-righteous indignation”?
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Im sorry, were you in the temple? I did not attack you, but you and that other fellow seem to have so much ire that you assume i was attacking you…settle down, re-read the post and relax
…it takes far more energy to be angry than to have an open mind.
 
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All.I know about Trump.is that he has behaved badly in the past. Whether he had unprotected sex, whether any of his actions resulted in a an abortion, I don’t know.

However, I do know that he has publicly repudiated his previous position on the abortion issue, which may or may not have had an effect on his private behavior.

And I do know that Pelosi has held and defended her views and votes on abortion for decades with sickening hypocrisy.
 
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Imdaman:
YOu do not need to judge their decisions.
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Speaking of being judgemental, i did not judge Annie, but you jumped to conclusions because you felt worldly political paradivm was questioned.
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Nope wrong again and on so many levels to . I didn’t say you were judging Annie but all those who you believe are like the money changers in the temple. you really need to keep up with the conversation!
 
I did not say you were attacking me; I responded to what you posted, which you seem to have forgotten was, “Perhaps those offended in the temple, when Jesus tipped over the tables, were experiencing similar self righteous indignation?”

There is simply no other way to read this other than that the only response you could think of to what I wrote in response to your slanderous view of Catholics who do not vote as you think they ought was to ask if I might not be feeling a feeling you think might have also been held by some very bad people.
 
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Do you think they were not? This is an appropriate week i guess to revisit that reading to renew our prospectives.
 
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Ridgerunner:
Comes close though, since no other present issue begins to be “proportionate” to killing children.
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It must be very troubling then to vote for someone who has unprotected adulterous sex that is the main cause of abortions.
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Can you please prove your accusation that Trump’s adulterous sex has lead to an abortion or is this more Calmuny from you you!
 
I added more to that post. I apologize, my keyboard is tiny and my screen smashed, so it can be hard to work with.
 
Thank you for confirming that you were indeed accusing me of self-righteous indignation for totally refuting your purple slanderous opinion with actual facts.
 
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