Did Pope Francis remove his title of the vicar of christ?

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Did Pope Francis remove his title of the vicar of christ?
 
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If he did he wouldnt be the pope, anyhow this couldnt be done sub rosa.
 
Penitent60 said:
If he did he wouldnt be the pope, anyhow this couldnt be done sub rosa.
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This is, unfortunately, another example of the absolute disgrace that websites like “Life Site” and others have become, defaming the Pope.

This all stems from the 2020 Vatican Yearbook listing only the title Bishop of Rome and not all the other honorific titles, apparently.

But instead of taking this for what it is: a big NOTHING BURGER, the likes of “Life Site” led with the headline that the Pope “disavowed” the title Vicar is Christ. Which is a complete lie and those people should be ashamed of themselves and repent of their evil ways.
 
It is currently not clear if he is discarding the title or not. It was listed in the Vatican yearbook as a “historical” title, which impiles that Pope Francis may in fact be trying to do away with the title. The Vatican will probably have to comment on that. Needless to say, it would be problematic to haphazardly discard it in such a fashion, or in any fashion, for that matter.
 
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If he did he wouldnt be the pope, anyhow this couldnt be done sub rosa.
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This is, unfortunately, another example of the absolute disgrace that websites like “Life Site” and others have become, defaming the Pope.

This all stems from the 2020 Vatican Yearbook listing only the title Bishop of Rome and not all the other honorific titles, apparently.

But instead of taking this for what it is: a big NOTHING BURGER, the likes of “Life Site” led with the headline that the Pope “disavowed” the title Vicar is Christ. Which is a complete lie and those people should be ashamed of themselves and repent of their evil ways.
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Here is the article, we can let readers decide for themselves whether or not it is “disgraceful” or “defaming” or is merely reporting the facts and the opinion of another cardinal of the Church.


Personally, I find your reaction to the article more “over the top” than the original article.
 
LifeSite news is hyperbolic, hysterical, and sensationalist.

It should not be trusted to provide good reporting.

Unless you have a very strong stomach, stay away.
 
What is your source? ETA never mind, LifeSite. If LSN tells you it will be sunny, pack your rainboots.
 
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Did Pope Francis remove his title of the vicar of christ?
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By the way, every single Bishop now holds title “Vicar of Christ” as per Vatican II. Historically (as early as Ignatius of Antioch), every Bishop could be referred as such either way. Vatican II returned to this practice.

So basically Francis would hence deny to be a Bishop… which he can not deny because he is a Bishop and that is already inscribed onto his soul and will never ever go away.
 
catholic03 said:
LifeSite news is hyperbolic, hysterical, and sensationalist.

It should not be trusted to provide good reporting.

Unless you have a very strong stomach, stay away.
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Your post sounds a little too hyperbolic, hysterical, and sensationalist for my taste — and I do have a very strong stomach.

Most reasonable people have the capacity to make up their own minds on the validity of different sites.

The fact that you take it upon yourself to decide FOR others what they ought to read or not is a tad presumptuous, don’t you think?

Or do you think that highly of your capacities over those of others who need to be guided and counselled by you?
 
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HarryStotle said:
Your post sounds a little too hyperbolic, hysterical, and sensationalist for my taste — and I do have a very strong stomach.

Most reasonable people have the capacity to make up their own minds on the validity of different sites.

The fact that you take it upon yourself to decide FOR others what they ought to read or not is a tad presumptuous, don’t you think?

Or do you think that highly of your capacities over those of others who need to be guided and counselled by you?
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LifeSite news:
  • Criticises our Holy Father and calls him unorthodox.
  • Calls many good bishops unorthodox.
  • They even wrote articles on how my ordinary is apparently unorthodox and how Pope Francis ‘made a mistake’ creating him a cardinal. There are surely more important things to focus on than an archdiocese at the bottom of the world. My ordinary is a great bishop and I trust our Holy Father.
Even if a member of the hierarchy is saying things that are not in accord with Church teaching (which is very rare), there is no point in rubbing it in. Let the Holy Father and others deal with it.

They do have some good content. Some bishops and (I think) even a cardinal or two (Cardinal Burke, I do like him) have given them interviews to them. That’s fine to look at. But I think most of their other content is not really a good idea to take without a pinch of salt.
 
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HarryStotle said:
Or do you think that highly of your capacities over those of others who need to be guided and counselled by you?
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Certainly not. I am a sinner, and a follower of Our Lord Jesus Christ.

For the record, I think it is a shame that, for instance, some German bishops are promoting moral wrongs, but I see no need to rub it in and over exaggerate as LifeSite does.
 
TheNameRubyBegonia said:
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But instead of taking this for what it is: a big NOTHING BURGER, the likes of “Life Site” led with the headline that the Pope “disavowed” the title Vicar is Christ. Which is a complete lie and those people should be ashamed of themselves and repent of their evil ways.
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Another interesting thing about the “pro-life” cause. They are a pro-life organ, but they attack the Church. So they are working to make it harder for salvation for children who are saved from abortion. Which is hypocritical.
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I disagree. What makes it “harder” to get the message of salvation across to the world is when the Gospel message becomes muddied, unclear and compromised for the sake of “getting along” with the world. What is most needed now is the clarity of truth, not confused and half-hearted renditions of the message that make it indistinguishable from the current progressive ideologies.

What, precisely, are those children you speak of, being saved from or to when the message of salvation looks exactly like the current social justice weltanschauung?
 
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Emeraldlady said:
It behoves all of us to warn our fellow Christians against defamatory, anti Catholic muckrakers. Absolutely!
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What about these links? I get that many do not like Lifesite but they are not the only ones reporting this. Maybe it is nothing significant, I do not know but, in all charity, can we not make this an attack on Lifesite thread.



 
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