Did Russians interfere in the 2016 U.S. elections and is such interference acceptable?

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BoomBoomMancini said:
That’s not the way people use “mandate” and it’s certainly not what people mean when they say “popular mandate.” As Leaf said, used this way it’s completely redundant, because it just means whoever won.

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Of course it is. What people refer to is the degree of strength of that mandate, and as I’ve said, Trump’s is not as strong as, say Reagan’s, but he clearly has a popular mandate
 
Monte_RCMS said:
You dislike Trump. I get that.

But you don’t want to discuss other politicians … whose public patriotic social offenses may be lesser or greater.

[Would you equate or characterize Bill Clinton’s avoidance of military service to Donald Trump’s avoidance?]

[Did Bill Clinton use the word “despise” at any time?]

1stcavmedic.com/bill-clinton-draft.htm ]

[Did Donald Trump use the word “despise” at any time?]

OK.

Got it.
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👍 I get so tired of the double standard. So far no reply to your posts either. 🤷
 
7_Sorrows said:
👍 I get so tired of the double standard. So far no reply to your posts either. 🤷
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I responded. Twice.

I’m waiting for one of you to provide some evidence that I’m defending Bill Clinton, despite the fact that I’ve said repeatedly that I have a very low opinion of him and he’s a draft dodger. It’s very frustrating to respond and then get the sense that you’re not even reading it.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
You’re using the idea of a popular mandate in a totally unique way that is different from the way 99% of people understand the term, but at least this is consistent.
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Nonsense. Though the losing party often tries to use it to mean something different, to try to diminish the victory of the opponent, the dictionary definition is exactly what it means.
 
Ridgerunner said:
There it is, then. Everybody who is acting strangely is in league with the Russians. And anybody who doesn’t recognize that those people are acting strangely is in league with the Russians as well. And nobody who is acting strangely or refusing to recognize that they’re acting strangely should be able to investigate anything. Only those who express conviction that Trump is in league with the Russians regardless of there being no evidence that there was, should be allowed to investigate.

Obviously, that would disqualify Clapper, Comey and just about anybody but Schiff, Pelosi, Waters, and Schumer.
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Lock 'em all up.

Or, build a border wall and call America “prison”! :eek:
 
Michael68 said:
Naah, Kurt Russell, aka Snake, prove you can break in and out! 😉
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Yeah, when they started building the 12-foot wall some years back, they had cartoons of people on the Mexican side selling 13-foot ladders.

When I saw the border wall they just showed on TV a few minutes ago, I told my husband I could climb that, as I had climbed a 6 foot fence when I was 6 months old (and couldn’t even walk yet)… or so my mom told me.

However it would be very difficult for obese people wanting to flee to Mexico from that “ice chase” in Day After Tomorrow. :eek:
 
I haven’t read every post, but has someone located evidence that it was actually the Russians who released the DNC emails?

Logical guess is not sufficient.
 
lynnvinc said:
Yeah, when they started building the 12-foot wall some years back, they had cartoons of people on the Mexican side selling 13-foot ladders.

When I saw the border wall they just showed on TV a few minutes ago, I told my husband I could climb that, as I had climbed a 6 foot fence when I was 6 months old (and couldn’t even walk yet)… or so my mom told me.

However it would be very difficult for obese people wanting to flee to Mexico from that “ice chase” in Day After Tomorrow. :eek:
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What people don’t understand is several technologies will be employed, not just a wall. Drones, ground penetrating radar, more personell etc.
 
lynnvinc said:
Yeah, when they started building the 12-foot wall some years back, they had cartoons of people on the Mexican side selling 13-foot ladders.

When I saw the border wall they just showed on TV a few minutes ago, I told my husband I could climb that, as I had climbed a 6 foot fence when I was 6 months old (and couldn’t even walk yet)… or so my mom told me.

However it would be very difficult for obese people wanting to flee to Mexico from that “ice chase” in Day After Tomorrow. :eek:
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How high is the wall that Israel built?

Seems to be very effective.

How high is the wall that has already been built on the southern edge of San Diego.

Seems to be very effective.
 
Theo520 said:
I haven’t read every post, but has someone located evidence that it was actually the Russians who released the DNC emails?

Logical guess is not sufficient.
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Clearly, the Democrats were unable to protect their own systems against the most primitive of attempts to breach their security.

No one had any difficulty getting past Pedesta and his cohorts.

After all, the Democrats and Hillary just KNEW that they had victory in the bag … a done deal.

But it didn’t work out that way.

The Democrats are more than willing to give away American national security and the secrets being kept at the National Security Agency … no matter what.

The Russians … yeah … Representative Maxine Waters of California, a Democrat, wants to know why the Russians want to invade Korea … [she thinks Korea and Crimea are the same thing.].
 
lynnvinc said:
It’s beginning to look to me that a lot more Republican politicos were in on this Russian interference thing, from their actions and positions. I’m thinking Nunes (who is acting strangely AND was on the transition team), perhaps Paul Ryan (who is okaying whatever Nunes does & refuses to replace him).

It seems to me the Russians, who may have started their efforts over a year ago and wouldn’t have known who was going to win the primaries, may have become “friendly” and contributed to at least several of the Republican front-runners. Looks like the Supreme Court a few years ago made that very possible (and likely) with their campaign contribution decision. (Maybe they are on the take as well :eek:) Be on the look-out for SC justices with 2nd and 3rd yachts 🙂
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And how have you been, Sen. McCarthy? I guess it is true that the parties have swapped positions. Now, it’s the Democrats blaming everything on the EEEEEEEEEEEEVIL Russians.
lynnvinc said:
This is becoming reminiscent of the McCarthy era in the 50s when my mom suspected all sorts of people of being communist, including our next-door neighbors (who had meetings Saturday nights), Catholics (which is why I was always sort of attracted to the Catholic Church), and various others. :eek: 🙂
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Generally, McCarthyism is seen as a bad thing. Is it now acceptable because it’s being pushed by the left?

One thing I still haven’t seen an answer to: In what way did Russia supposedly “interfere”?
 
Monkey1976 said:
And how have you been, Sen. McCarthy? I guess it is true that the parties have swapped positions. Now, it’s the Democrats blaming everything on the EEEEEEEEEEEEVIL Russians.

Generally, McCarthyism is seen as a bad thing. Is it now acceptable because it’s being pushed by the left?

One thing I still haven’t seen an answer to: In what way did Russia supposedly “interfere”?
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I’m still waiting for that answer! They tried to claim telling the truth about Hillary is interferenc. Oh, there is also the evil Russian bot theory, that’s not getting much traction, so I guess the story this week will be every Republican is in cahoots with the Russians!!! ROFL
 
7 Sorrows and Monte,

Still waiting on some explanation on my hypocrisy and double standards. Or is the lack of a response just an implicit admission it was just a baseless kneejerk response?
 
Monte_RCMS said:
What sports?

Golf?

Seriously?

[Change focus to the VA? Trying to post a pivot?]
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He played football and baseball and was almost recruited by the Phillies.
In an interview with Rolling Stone, it was discovered that a young Donald Trump was scouted by the Phillies. Trump was “a star first baseman.”
"He was good-hit and good-field: We had scouts from the Phillies to watch him, but he wanted to go to college and make real money."The Phillies weren’t the only team to get a peek at The Donald, though—according to the Daily Mail, the Red Sox also paid the young cadet captain a visit.
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dvdjs said:
FWIW Dick Cheney weighs in:
“There’s no question that there was a very serious effort made by Mr. Putin and his government, his organization, to interfere in major ways with our basic fundamental democratic processes,” Cheney said. "In some quarters, that could be considered an act of war.
businessinsider.com/dick-cheney-russia-hack-no-question-act-of-war-2017-3
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This is one of the most interesting remarks so far. Cheney publicly emphasizing that that Russian interference could constitute an act of war means anyone who assisted or worked with Russia may have committed treason. This sentiment has been slowly coming out from conservative quarters, and with the continued silence from Flynn people seem to know where this whole thing is headed.
 
lmachine said:
This is one of the most interesting remarks so far. Cheney publicly emphasizing that that Russian interference could constitute an act of war means anyone who assisted or worked with Russia may have committed treason. This sentiment has been slowly coming out from conservative quarters, and with the continued silence from Flynn people seem to know where this whole thing is headed.
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I realize hope springs eternal with those who hate Trump, but this is just not going to happen.
 
BoomBoomMancini said:
7 Sorrows and Monte,

Still waiting on some explanation on my hypocrisy and double standards. Or is the lack of a response just an implicit admission it was just a baseless kneejerk response?
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not getting e-mail notifications and the fact I have more important things to do than be on CAF all day have prevented me from responding more quickly. maybe if you would not be taking potshots at Trump about bone spurs and evading the draft. Military service is military service whether you are drafted or sign up voluntarily.
Obama never served in the military nor did Bill or Hillary. Bernie doesn’t strike me as one who would serve but I might be wrong. I don’t know that much about Bernie. I am sure there ars other high profile
democrats who never served. I know John Kerry did - not sure about Al Gore. It gets old seeing Trump being attacked because he grew up wealthy and rode to school in limousines and somehow avoided the draft because he was wealthy. Maybe he really had bone spurs. I don’t know.
 
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