Discerning homosexuality & same sex marriage in the light of the gospel.

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Stop right there šŸ™‚ - if it is not a Christian way of living, it cannot be truly loving. Sinning is not a way of loving God.​

Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right,
until the other comes and examines him.

There’s always two sides of a debate. I found this Inclusive Orthodoxy site very interesting. I’m not ready to label commited Christian homosexuals who are married to be apostates. The Lord Jesus Christ was silent on the issue; therefore, I will consider His silence in my research and discernment. What must I do to be saved? According to Apostle Paul, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

truthsetsfree.net/ < click here
 
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right,
until the other comes and examines him.

There’s always two sides of a debate. I found this Inclusive Orthodoxy site very interesting. I’m not ready to label commited Christian homosexuals who are married to be apostates. The Lord Jesus Christ was silent on the issue; therefore, I will consider His silence in my research and discernment. What must I do to be saved? According to Apostle Paul, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

truthsetsfree.net/ < click here
I would rather err on the side of love and compassion and be found wrong…rather than condemn and be found wanting in the area of love and compassion.šŸ™‚
 
I would rather err on the side of love and compassion and be found wrong…rather than condemn and be found wanting in the area of love and compassion.šŸ™‚
Very well said! You sure seem to be in agreement with the two greatest commandments according to Jesus as well as the Apostle Paul (1 Cor 13).
 
Originally I posted?

Same sex marriage ultimately is about same sex sex.​

As I’ve tried to point out more than once, all examples from God/Jesus for marriage is between men and women, not men and men or women and women.​

Homosexual sex seems to be wrong in the Bible. While Roman 1 doesn’t use the term, it describes the act. Paul says men ā€˜acting’ with men are a result of God giving them over to their own sinful desires.

Romans 1

22 Professing to be wise, they became fools,
23 and changed the glory of the incorruptible God into an image made like corruptible man––and birds and four–footed animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God also gave them up to uncleanness, in the lusts of their hearts, to dishonor their bodies among themselves,
25 who exchanged the truth of God for the lie, and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever. Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to vile passions. For even their women exchanged the natural use for what is against nature.
27 Likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful, and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due.

James 5:
19 Brethren, if anyone among you wanders from the truth, and someone turns him back,
20 let him know that he who turns a sinner from the error of his way will save a soul from death and cover a multitude of sins.​

Please, 2nd Adam, don’t let your friends continue in their sins in the name of grace. Becasue, (Titus 2:11,12) ā€œthe grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men,
teaching us that, denying ungodliness and worldly lusts, we should live soberly, righteously, and godly in the present age,ā€​

Then 2nd Adam responded-
This has nothing to do with imaginary friends. Please look at the thread title. You are all over the place with your doctrine and biblical interpertation. This is not a free for all for individualistic truth. We are simply examining the Scriptures on a certain topic, attempting to handle the Word of Truth. Our personal interpretations are meaningless. What matters is divine revelation correctly interpreted and understood according to God. I have to admit, Fundamentalists like yourself are the worst in mishandling the Scriptures to support preconceived biases that is in your heard. If you want to do a very slow Bible Study on the 6 verses, we can do it. However, let’s not jump all around the place. We can discuss the entire account of Sodom first since this is the account that Christians have used to based their views on homosexuality (sodomy). What is this account all about?

Do you have friends that are homosexuals; are they married?​

You could help me by showing me where I’ve strayed from the thread other than responding directly to you. Thank you in advance.​

I’m not sure I’ve told you much of my personal ā€˜doctrines’ or biblical interpretations. In the post your referenced the vast part of it was direct quotes from the Scriptures. The highlighted parts are done by me. I’m not sure I made much of a comment so my question is, how was I engaging in a free for all expressing my peronal truth? Again, the majority of my post was the Word of God which I highlighted.​

If you would please show me where I’ve mishandles the Word of God?​

Wasn’t it you that keeps reminding everyone that context is important; context of the whole of the Bible? We need to take the whole of the Word of God to understand the sin issue and how that might apply to homosexuality.​

In your opinion, is same sex sex sin (in the context of marriage)? Murdering a woman is wrong whether or not a man is married to her. If homosexuality is wrong in God’s eyes, marriage doens’t legitamize it.
 
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right,
until the other comes and examines him.

There’s always two sides of a debate. I found this Inclusive Orthodoxy site very interesting. I’m not ready to label commited Christian homosexuals who are married to be apostates. The Lord Jesus Christ was silent on the issue; therefore, I will consider His silence in my research and discernment. What must I do to be saved? According to Apostle Paul, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

truthsetsfree.net/ < click here

When debating God and His Word, there is only one correct side – God is correct and we are incorrect.​

Jesus was not silent about marriage. He ALWAYS spoke in terms of men and women marrying each other. Jesus NEVER spoke of marriage between men and men or women and women. His silence seems very, very loud.
 
Proverbs 18:17
The one who states his case first seems right,
until the other comes and examines him.

There’s always two sides of a debate. I found this Inclusive Orthodoxy site very interesting. I’m not ready to label commited Christian homosexuals who are married to be apostates. The Lord Jesus Christ was silent on the issue; therefore, I will consider His silence in my research and discernment. What must I do to be saved? According to Apostle Paul, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

truthsetsfree.net/ < click here
Douay-Rheims Bible
Leviticus 18 :21-25

21 Thou shalt not give any of thy seed to be consecrated to the idol Moloch, nor defile the name of thy God: I am the Lord. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. 23 Thou shalt not copulate with any beast, neither shalt thou be defiled with it. A woman shall not lie down to a beast, nor copulate with it: because it is a heinous crime. 24 Defile not yourselves with any of these things with which all the nations have been defiled, which I will cast out before you, 25 And with which the land is defiled: the abominations of which I will visit, that it may vomit out its inhabitants.

so God did not have to say that marriage between 2 men is a sin as he had already said sex between men was a sin.
 
Douay-Rheims Bible
Leviticus 18 :21-25

21 Thou shalt not give any of thy seed to be consecrated to the idol Moloch, nor defile the name of thy God: I am the Lord. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. 23 Thou shalt not copulate with any beast, neither shalt thou be defiled with it. A woman shall not lie down to a beast, nor copulate with it: because it is a heinous crime. 24 Defile not yourselves with any of these things with which all the nations have been defiled, which I will cast out before you, 25 And with which the land is defiled: the abominations of which I will visit, that it may vomit out its inhabitants.

so God did not have to say that marriage between 2 men is a sin as he had already said sex between men was a sin.
How are you doing with the holiness code or the 600 (+) Levitical Laws? Are you able to keep them? Before you throw the first stone, you need to answer that question.

but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, ā€œTeacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?ā€ This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, ā€œLet him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.ā€ And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, ā€œWoman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?ā€ She said, ā€œNo one, Lord.ā€ And Jesus said, ā€œNeither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.ā€] - Jesus
 
Douay-Rheims Bible
Leviticus 18 :21-25

21 Thou shalt not give any of thy seed to be consecrated to the idol Moloch, nor defile the name of thy God: I am the Lord. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. 23 Thou shalt not copulate with any beast, neither shalt thou be defiled with it. A woman shall not lie down to a beast, nor copulate with it: because it is a heinous crime. 24 Defile not yourselves with any of these things with which all the nations have been defiled, which I will cast out before you, 25 And with which the land is defiled: the abominations of which I will visit, that it may vomit out its inhabitants.

so God did not have to say that marriage between 2 men is a sin as he had already said sex between men was a sin.
ā€œBut all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you.ā€ (Leviticus 11:10)ā€œThey (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination.ā€
 
Douay-Rheims Bible
Leviticus 18 :21-25

21 Thou shalt not give any of thy seed to be consecrated to the idol Moloch, nor defile the name of thy God: I am the Lord. 22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind, because it is an abomination. 23 Thou shalt not copulate with any beast, neither shalt thou be defiled with it. A woman shall not lie down to a beast, nor copulate with it: because it is a heinous crime. 24 Defile not yourselves with any of these things with which all the nations have been defiled, which I will cast out before you, 25 And with which the land is defiled: the abominations of which I will visit, that it may vomit out its inhabitants.

so God did not have to say that marriage between 2 men is a sin as he had already said sex between men was a sin.
Since the preceeding verse deals with the worship practices of Israel’s pagan neighbors…and verse 24 states that Israel is to not be like the other nations…and the ā€œother nationsā€ practiced ritual same sex intercourse…it would appear that the Levitical code has nothing to do with loving same sex relationships…this passage is not discussing the normative sexual relationship between two people of the same sex who have entered into mutual love and relationship with one another…but clearly it is contrasting the worshiping practices of Israel and it’s pagan neighbors.
 

When debating God and His Word, there is only one correct side – God is correct and we are incorrect.​

Jesus was not silent about marriage. He ALWAYS spoke in terms of men and women marrying each other. Jesus NEVER spoke of marriage between men and men or women and women. His silence seems very, very loud.
Okay, what are the two greatest commandments according to Jesus?
 
Love God and love your neighbor.

And it may seem harsh, but sometimes the loving thing to do when your neighbor is making a grave error–a terrible sin–is to tell him that he’s is doing or about to do is wrong.

I would rather be found on the side of Jesus speaking the truth, even when hordes of ā€˜Christians’ bleat about how I’m not being ā€˜nice’, because then I am loving my neighbor enough to put myself on the line–to be the target of the malicious remarks, the slurs, the anger and the tut-tuts and the ā€˜how can you DARE to be a Christian, are you so perfect’ etc. charges.
 
Proverbs 18:17

The one who states his case first seems right,
until the other comes and examines him.

There’s always two sides of a debate. I found this Inclusive Orthodoxy site very interesting. I’m not ready to label commited Christian homosexuals who are married to be apostates. The Lord Jesus Christ was silent on the issue; therefore, I will consider His silence in my research and discernment. What must I do to be saved? According to Apostle Paul, believe in the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.

truthsetsfree.net/ < click here

And not infrequently, more than two. But where our obedience to God is concerned, we are not doing rightly when we disobey. We are **capable of **disobeying - but we are never entitled to disobey.​

So far in this thread I’ve not seen homosexual Christians being called apostates - ISTM all sin by Christians is apostasy, as all sin is by a Christian is a turning away from Christ. Homosexual sin is merely more publicised than many: such as hardness of heart, oppression of the weak, lying, adultery, hatred, pride, avarice, gluttony, etc., etc.,. AFAICS, they are all forms of apostasy, because they all bias us away from Christ and back to Self.

As an OP has pointed out, homosexuals are not uniquely sinful - all of us are sinful, whatever our orientation or temptations or vices or actual sins: & that includes those who engage in homosexual acts. It’s just that they are not the only members of the set ā€œsinnersā€ - but they are members of it.

There is no room for any shadow of triumphalism or gloating here, as though Christians not tempted in this way could look down on or condemn their fellow-members in Christ who are tempted to engage in homosexual acts or do them. Nor can the latter condemn those who do not. All members of both groups are guilty before God, because all have fallen short of the Glory of God. God’s Righteousness weighs us all, and finds every single one of us wanting - all need mercy and forgiveness, whether we acknowledge our sinfulness or not. What others think is unimportant - all of us are open books to God.

That at least is what ISTM Romans 1 to 3 is saying - God condemns us all, that He may have mercy upon all. Only sinners can be forgiven sin - the righteous can’t. So how can an unadmitted sin that we knowingly do not submit to God for Him to judge, be forgiven ? To hang on to a sin is dangerous - it may become part of ā€œwho we areā€; and be all the more painful to remove.

Does Acts 16.31, which you quote, replace obedience to God - or open the way to it ? IOW - was the Philippian jailer, after believing on Christ savingly, ā€œentitledā€ to do wrong; or does the internal logic of saving faith oblige us to to submit ourselves to God ā€œas beloved childrenā€ ? Christian freedom is freedom from sin that we may be free for God - not freedom to continue in sin, and sin on more :eek: To sin on more, that grace may abound, is anti-nomian: it abuses the priceless grace of God by making of it a means to serve the devil. If we do that, we shall join him whom we serve in Hell. :eek:

Shouldn’t the plausibility with which we, being fallen, are capable of justifying our sins, be a warning sign ? If slavery can be justified from the Bible, yet later condemned as unrighteous behaviour, how much are Biblical justifications for homosexual behaviour ? They are very largely arguments from silence: whereas there are many Biblical data about marriage, that help us to build up a detailed picture of it & what it means in God’s purposes. Ephesians 5 has much to say about Christian marriage and what it means - but Paul has no theology of the Christian meaning of homosexual practice, even though that would have been a very good place for it. This too is an argument from silence - but it is a silence that is hard to account for if homosexual acts are fit for Christians. The silence on the other side of the argument is easy to understand, if homosexual acts are unworthy of Christians.

This is far too long - sorry.
 

And not infrequently, more than two. But where our obedience to God is concerned, we are not doing rightly when we disobey. We are **capable of **disobeying - but we are never entitled to disobey.​

So far in this thread I’ve not seen homosexual Christians being called apostates - ISTM all sin by Christians is apostasy, as all sin is by a Christian is a turning away from Christ. Homosexual sin is merely more publicised than many: such as hardness of heart, oppression of the weak, lying, adultery, hatred, pride, avarice, gluttony, etc., etc.,. AFAICS, they are all forms of apostasy, because they all bias us away from Christ and back to Self.

As an OP has pointed out, homosexuals are not uniquely sinful - all of us are sinful, whatever our orientation or temptations or vices or actual sins: & that includes those who engage in homosexual acts. It’s just that they are not the only members of the set ā€œsinnersā€ - but they are members of it.

There is no room for any shadow of triumphalism or gloating here, as though Christians not tempted in this way could look down on or condemn their fellow-members in Christ who are tempted to engage in homosexual acts or do them. Nor can the latter condemn those who do not. All members of both groups are guilty before God, because all have fallen short of the Glory of God. God’s Righteousness weighs us all, and finds every single one of us wanting - all need mercy and forgiveness, whether we acknowledge our sinfulness or not. What others think is unimportant - all of us are open books to God.

That at least is what ISTM Romans 1 to 3 is saying - God condemns us all, that He may have mercy upon all. Only sinners can be forgiven sin - the righteous can’t. So how can an unadmitted sin that we knowingly do not submit to God for Him to judge, be forgiven ? To hang on to a sin is dangerous - it may become part of ā€œwho we areā€; and be all the more painful to remove.

Does Acts 16.31, which you quote, replace obedience to God - or open the way to it ? IOW - was the Philippian jailer, after believing on Christ savingly, ā€œentitledā€ to do wrong; or does the internal logic of saving faith oblige us to to submit ourselves to God ā€œas beloved childrenā€ ? Christian freedom is freedom from sin that we may be free for God - not freedom to continue in sin, and sin on more :eek: To sin on more, that grace may abound, is anti-nomian: it abuses the priceless grace of God by making of it a means to serve the devil. If we do that, we shall join him whom we serve in Hell. :eek:

Shouldn’t the plausibility with which we, being fallen, are capable of justifying our sins, be a warning sign ? If slavery can be justified from the Bible, yet later condemned as unrighteous behaviour, how much are Biblical justifications for homosexual behaviour ? They are very largely arguments from silence: whereas there are many Biblical data about marriage, that help us to build up a detailed picture of it & what it means in God’s purposes. Ephesians 5 has much to say about Christian marriage and what it means - but Paul has no theology of the Christian meaning of homosexual practice, even though that would have been a very good place for it. This too is an argument from silence - but it is a silence that is hard to account for if homosexual acts are fit for Christians. The silence on the other side of the argument is easy to understand, if homosexual acts are unworthy of Christians.

This is far too long - sorry.
That’s really good! I have been married for 22 years, therefore I have no idea what temptation or struggle a sincere Christian homosexual would have? I could not imagine a life without my wife, as I love married life… knowing our marriage is a precious gift from God. Here is what I see for the Christian homosexual, either they have a life of celibacy or a married life. If you see your personal marriage as a blessing from above, how can the church prohibt the same blessing that we enjoy for the Christian homosexual? Now, if you see your marriage as being sent from Hell, then you won’t be able to understand this post.
 
Okay, what are the two greatest commandments according to Jesus?

Haven’t this question already been answered?​

Love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul and mind and your neighbor as yourself.​

I can’t imagine God loving us and leaving us in our sinfulness. The truth sets free; free from the penalty of and the practice of sin. Remember what Titus 2:11,12 tells us about what the grace of God does?​

If we love like God does, can we do so and also ignore our fellow Christian who hasn’t got victory over a sin? I sure do hope people love me enough to loving tell me when and where I’ve gone astray. The 5th chapter of James tells us how great it is to help a fellow believer come back from being in error.
 
Since the preceeding verse deals with the worship practices of Israel’s pagan neighbors…and verse 24 states that Israel is to not be like the other nations…and the ā€œother nationsā€ practiced ritual same sex intercourse…it would appear that the Levitical code has nothing to do with loving same sex relationships…this passage is not discussing the normative sexual relationship between two people of the same sex who have entered into mutual love and relationship with one another…but clearly it is contrasting the worshiping practices of Israel and it’s pagan neighbors.

Possibly such worship practices included a practice that was to be judged a sin on other grounds ?​

Arson is a crime, and murder is a crime, not because churches rather than flats or barns might be burned, but because crimes against property include the crime of arson, and crimes against the person include murder. Burning down a church is not wrong because worship in buildings is sinful - it’s wrong because burning down buildings is wrong, and because burning down a church with people in it is murder.

The question is: what is the ground for the condemnation in the text ?

And in the Bible ā€œloving same sex relationshipsā€ are not distinguished from unloving same-sex relationships - the Bible does not distinguish between ā€œlovingā€ & ā€œunlovingā€ same-sex relationships, but condemns all same-sex practices indiscriminately; whereas it is well aware that husbands and wives may for a variety of reasons not get on well. Greek culture may have distinguished - 🤷 there are a good many same-sex relationships in Greek Classical literature; but Israel seems not have: Achilles & Patroclus, the Theban Band, the Sybarites, have no Biblical equivalent in their sexual practice.

The men of Sodom may have tried to humiliate Lot’s visitors by subjecting them to sexual humiliation - this might not be what is intended by those in same-sex liaisons today, but neither does it make such liaisons right. The passage can be read as condemning the use of sex as a means of humiliating others; which would be a very serious breach of hospitality. Such a reading, however valid, does not as such show that same-sex acts are not wrong; the inhospitality may be all the worse for being homosexual in kind - compare Judges 19, which is like & unlike Gen.19. The passage would then be condemning not one thing, but two:
  • inhospitality
  • homosexuality
Those who would read Genesis 19 in a way that does not reject same-sex activity entirely, need to ā€œshow their workingā€.
 

Possibly such worship practices included a practice that was to be judged a sin on other grounds ?​

Arson is a crime, and murder is a crime, not because churches rather than flats or barns might be burned, but because crimes against property include the crime of arson, and crimes against the person include murder. Burning down a church is not wrong because worship in buildings is sinful - it’s wrong because burning down buildings is wrong, and because burning down a church with people in it is murder.

The question is: what is the ground for the condemnation in the text ?

And in the Bible ā€œloving same sex relationshipsā€ are not distinguished from unloving same-sex relationships - the Bible does not distinguish between ā€œlovingā€ & ā€œunlovingā€ same-sex relationships, but condemns all same-sex practices indiscriminately; whereas it is well aware that husbands and wives may for a variety of reasons not get on well. Greek culture may have distinguished - 🤷 there are a good many same-sex relationships in Greek Classical literature; but Israel seems not have: Achilles & Patroclus, the Theban Band, the Sybarites, have no Biblical equivalent in their sexual practice.

The men of Sodom may have tried to humiliate Lot’s visitors by subjecting them to sexual humiliation - this might not be what is intended by those in same-sex liaisons today, but neither does it make such liaisons right. The passage can be read as condemning the use of sex as a means of humiliating others; which would be a very serious breach of hospitality. Such a reading, however valid, does not as such show that same-sex acts are not wrong; the inhospitality may be all the worse for being homosexual in kind - compare Judges 19, which is like & unlike Gen.19. The passage would then be condemning not one thing, but two:
  • inhospitality
  • homosexuality
Those who would read Genesis 19 in a way that does not reject same-sex activity entirely, need to ā€œshow their workingā€.
Your elder sister is Samaria, who lived with her daughters to the north of you; and your younger sister, who lived to the south of you, is Sodom with her daughters. You not only followed their ways, and acted according to their abominations; within a very little time you were more corrupt than they in all your ways. As I live, says the Lord GOD, your sister Sodom and her daughters have not done as you and your daughters have done. **This was the guilt of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and needy. They were haughty and **did abominable things before me; therefore I removed them when I saw it.

Ezekiel 16:46-50

It seems to me the writer understood that God was more concerned about pride and not aiding the poor and needy.

I will not condemn someone because scripture is silent on an issue. Condeming same sex acts of violence and rape and victimization does not give license to condemn loving and compassionate same sex relationships founded on mutual respect and compassion.
 
Love God and love your neighbor.

And it may seem harsh, but sometimes the loving thing to do when your neighbor is making a grave error–a terrible sin–is to tell him that he’s is doing or about to do is wrong.

šŸ‘šŸ‘šŸ‘ And that certainly doesn’t imply self-righteousness - we have to tell our neighbour that, even if the cost of doing so involves putting ourselves in the wrong. :eek:

I would rather be found on the side of Jesus speaking the truth, even when hordes of ā€˜Christians’ bleat about how I’m not being ā€˜nice’, because then I am loving my neighbor enough to put myself on the line–to be the target of the malicious remarks, the slurs, the anger and the tut-tuts and the ā€˜how can you DARE to be a Christian, are you so perfect’ etc. charges.
 
How are you doing with the holiness code or the 600 (+) Levitical Laws? Are you able to keep them? Before you throw the first stone, you need to answer that question.

but Jesus went to the Mount of Olives. Early in the morning he came again to the temple. All the people came to him, and he sat down and taught them. The scribes and the Pharisees brought a woman who had been caught in adultery, and placing her in the midst they said to him, ā€œTeacher, this woman has been caught in the act of adultery. Now in the Law Moses commanded us to stone such women. So what do you say?ā€ This they said to test him, that they might have some charge to bring against him. Jesus bent down and wrote with his finger on the ground. And as they continued to ask him, he stood up and said to them, ā€œLet him who is without sin among you be the first to throw a stone at her.ā€ And once more he bent down and wrote on the ground. But when they heard it, they went away one by one, beginning with the older ones, and Jesus was left alone with the woman standing before him. Jesus stood up and said to her, ā€œWoman, where are they? Has no one condemned you?ā€ She said, ā€œNo one, Lord.ā€ And Jesus said, ā€œNeither do I condemn you; go, and from now on sin no more.ā€] - Jesus
I am a sinner. I have nothing to hope for except for Gods mercy. I pary for His Grace so as to sin no more and I try to avoid the near occasion of sin. Your question is is homosexuallity a sin and is so called gay marriage a sin the answer to those 2 questions is yes. As Christians we need to do just as Chirst di and tell the gay man or women to go and sin no more. If that means they are to live a chaste and celebit life then that is what they need to do. by condoneing and legitimizing the sin we jon the sinner in it.
 
ā€œBut all in the seas or in the rivers that do not have fins and scales, all that move in the water or any living thing which is in the water, they are an abomination to you.ā€ (Leviticus 11:10)ā€œThey (shellfish) shall be an abomination to you; you shall not eat their flesh, but you shall regard their carcasses as an abomination.ā€
This is true and if Jesus had not stated that nothing that enter the mouthis unclean and agian we have the vision given to Peter in acts that all foods as clean then we would still be held to that deitary law.
 
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