Personally, I think if you’re not crazy about it, then don’t go.Personally I think it is saying more like “This is how it happened,” not “Let’s celebrate this!” Pretty neutral to me. There are a lot of innuendos in PG movies so ….
I read a couple of stories about this and it looks like Disney deliberately put a “gay scene” in at the end of the movie.Last year I remember a big hoopla about Finding Dory featuring the first ever gay couple in Disney. The Left was celebrating and the Right was panicking…and it ended up being two women walking next to each other. If you were inclined to see them as a couple you could, but it was ambiguous. Same thing with Frozen.
This looks like it’s going to be something similar honestly. A publicity stunt to generate controversy and sell tickets, but in the end the story on both sides will be way overblown. A male character “exploring feelings” for a straight man to me sounds like it’s going to play on screen as an awkward joke.
He’ll probably be staring at Gaston or make a strange compliment and then Gaston will make a comment like “bet you wish you were a woman huh?” and that will be it. Or maybe LeFou will make a few awkward glances when singing “No one’s got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston.” But I think people are assuming it will be something explicit, and I just highly doubt that. Five or six years from now maybe, but not yet.
Disney is a liberal company, but it’s also extremely risk-averse. They want the largest audience possible, and they are going to continue to try and appeal to both sides until it’s not profitable.
I say this as someone not interested in seeing the new movie because the cartoon is perfect.
Check this out! sigh
They’re like snakes.The director said they intentionally put this scene in to give Disney it’s first explicitly “gay moment.” I read that it also features Disney’s first interracial kiss, which I suspect was put in partially to deflect criticism over the gay scene and to let them attack anyone who opposes the movie as both a homophobe and a racist, even when nothing at all is said about the interracial kiss. We’ll not be patronizing this.
That’s racist.Of course Alabama
Maybe not racist, but definitely prejudice.That’s racist.
Yep, just found out today. Have not seen that show since the beginning of season two, and now it seems I will continue not seeing it. I also stopped watching Loud House for the same reasons along with other ones. Now all three of the main kids networks are guilty (although I view Steven Universe as the exception to the rule and will continue to use it as an example as to how gay representation should be handled if at all). At least we have My Little Pony and some others as a glimmer of hope…Check this out! sigh
Apparently you’re right:Last year I remember a big hoopla about Finding Dory featuring the first ever gay couple in Disney. The Left was celebrating and the Right was panicking…and it ended up being two women walking next to each other. If you were inclined to see them as a couple you could, but it was ambiguous. Same thing with Frozen.
This looks like it’s going to be something similar honestly. A publicity stunt to generate controversy and sell tickets, but in the end the story on both sides will be way overblown. A male character “exploring feelings” for a straight man to me sounds like it’s going to play on screen as an awkward joke.
He’ll probably be staring at Gaston or make a strange compliment and then Gaston will make a comment like “bet you wish you were a woman huh?” and that will be it. Or maybe LeFou will make a few awkward glances when singing “No one’s got a swell cleft in his chin like Gaston.” But I think people are assuming it will be something explicit, and I just highly doubt that.
…as you’ll not-so-quickly find out, the “exclusively gay moment” is kind of a big dud, and if you hadn’t been warned in advance that it was going to happen, you might not even notice it at all.
All worked up and hyped for nothing I guess…Throughout the movie, LeFou dotes on Gaston as he did in the 1991 animated version, but the big moment comes at the end of the movie, when LeFou sees the error of Gaston’s ways and reforms. During the finale ballroom scene, after LeFou has joined up with Team Belle, LeFou dances with a man. That’s it! That’s all there is…
Not shocked. The reactions to this have been a little…extreme.All worked up and hyped for nothing I guess…![]()
Well that’s a relief. I’m usually fine with gay references as long as it’s subtle and meant for non-offensive humor.Not shocked. The reactions to this have been a little…extreme.We really don’t need to go into hang wringing, pearl clutching hysterics every time there is some mild reference to gay stuff.
And c’mon, LeFou as gay is a pretty obvious subtext/joke. He literally follows around the burly, ripped guy and sings songs about how physically flawless he is. It’s barely even subtext.
That is the exact mentality they are banking on majority of people to have at controversies like this…if you want to change public opinion/ sentiment about something, its more effective to do it slowly and methodically, over the course of many years, sometimes done very subtly, even to point where someone does not notice. Its really desensitization and acclimation.Not shocked. The reactions to this have been a little…extreme.We really don’t need to go into hang wringing, pearl clutching hysterics every time there is some mild reference to gay stuff.
I have suspicions that Le Fou being made “gay” in the live-action film is some sort of fan service, since so many fans of the original animated film had the same assumptions/jokes about it.And c’mon, LeFou as gay is a pretty obvious subtext/joke. He literally follows around the burly, ripped guy and sings songs about how physically flawless he is. It’s barely even subtext.
Yup. Exactly like they did in cases of black people, interracial marriage etc.Tkind of like inter-racial couples in tv and movies were decades ago, its not even debated anymore, majority of people accept that this is fine now, but at one time, it was the opposite.
.
Yet it was Catholic Church who got burned…hint hint.(in terms of sexuality)…hint hint.
Please correct me if I’m wrong, but are you bashing the Catholic Church on a Catholic forum? If I’m wrong, I apologize. By if I’m not please try to be more respectful.Yet it was Catholic Church who got burned…hint hint.
I am not sure why you find that so amusing, except maybe for your Atheist status.Yet it was Catholic Church who got burned…hint hint.![]()
Regarding BEAUTY AND THE BEAST and its “exclusively gay moment,” a Facebook friend who is a Christian and a smart cinephile writes:
Is it possible that…
- Disney & company knows/knew that Beauty & Beast remake sucked? (Trailers look awful.), and
- Leaked/promoted the openly gay character on purpose,
- Knowing full well that the usual suspects (Franklin Graham et al) would respond in the usual way (boycott!!!), prompting
- Anti-homophobic rhetoric (better not give this a bad review or people will think I’m with the fundies) and identity politics decisions a la affaire Chick-fil-A (I must go see this movie or the Religious alt-Right wins!), and
- Hey, if the movie does tank, Disney now has a built in excuse?
Think before you freak out and call for boycotts.