Do Catholics still support Trump

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SuperLuigi said:
I don’t even know that he said, but the comment would be racist if he did. But I don’t think for a minute Trump is a racist, sexist or homophobe or anything else the far left says he is.

If I were you, I wouldn’t play their game. It’s a losing proposition, especially with me.
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Oh, please. Just because you can be never convinced it is racist doesn’t mean it isn’t racist. Paul Ryan even said it was racist.
 
PaulinVA said:
Yes, of course I did. From the article:

“He’s a Mexican,” Trump told CNN. “We’re building a wall between here and Mexico. The answer is, he is giving us very unfair rulings — rulings that people can’t even believe.”

That is racist. Do you not think it is?
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NO.
PaulinVA said:
His comment was racist.
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I don’t even know that he said, but the comment would be racist if he did. But I don’t think for a minute Trump is a racist, sexist or homophobe or anything else the far left says he is.

If I were you, I wouldn’t play their game. It’s a losing proposition, especially with me.
BoomBoomMancini said:
I’m not a Democrat by any means, but this is disingenuous (and surely you realize it.)
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No, it’s not.
BoomBoomMancini said:
Those Democrats would have almost certainly have been Republicans if you mapped it onto our current political alignment.
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Given the racial comments I received from Democrats and actual history—NO.
BoomBoomMancini said:
The parties have realigned over the past several decades vis-a-vis southern white conservatives.
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This has been debunked so many times on here.

The Democrats were the party of Jim Crow, slavery, obstruction the woman’s vote and the Trail of Tears. As D’Souza notes, “as republican registration rose in the South, racism declined”.

There was no big switch. It’s a myth and a lie.
BoomBoomMancini said:
I’m not a Democrat by any means
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Supposedly, only @sallybutler is a Democrat, but you’d never guess it from all the defense they get from “independents” who are using talking points of the far left and so blinded by anger of Trump they don’t even realize it.

It’s quite amazing how much rent-free space Donald Trump is allotted in the minds of many.
 
Axsenex said:
The second to the latest tweet.
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Dang, you made me work for it. Honestly, I don’t know who’s telling the truth out of this group of liars, which is why I am not particularly excited about what the book may have to say. The author is a liar, the subject of the book is a liar, Steve Bannon, liar and propagandist.

Besides, I don’t know what this has to do with how Trump governs that I can’t already figure out by reading his tweets and watching his actions.
 
If you listened to the proposed health care plan that didn’t pass–all that stuff was going to be covered better by the states… Repubs put large blocks of money in to cover truly needy people…
 
😊 If you listened to the proposed health care plan that didn’t pass–all that stuff was going to be covered better by the states… Repubs put large blocks of money in to cover truly needy people…
 
Jig_Saw said:
Dang, you made me work for it. Honestly, I don’t know who’s telling the truth out of this group of liars, which is why I am not particularly excited about what the book may have to say. The author is a liar, the subject of the book is a liar, Steve Bannon, liar and propagandist.
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Are you certain they are all liars?

It could be that they are just making lots of errors, and your errorphobia is flairing up again. 😱
 
Jig_Saw said:
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HarryStotle:
I could be completely mistaken about this, howerror. 😖
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You definitely are.
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That is what I expect someone suffering from errorphobia would say, rather than admit they are in error.

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The biggest problem on here is too few are willing to admit they could be wrong.

It’s really not that big of a deal.

Also, @pnewton I don’t think that voting independent makes someone a babykiller. The Vatican has made it very clear that Catholics have the individual decision-making on who best to vote for.
 
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SuperLuigi said:
I don’t even know that he said, but the comment would be racist if he did. But I don’t think for a minute Trump is a racist, sexist or homophobe or anything else the far left says he is.

If I were you, I wouldn’t play their game. It’s a losing proposition, especially with me.
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Well, I’m conservative, so what the far left says is just an interesting gong, not something I listen to.

You just have to observe him and what he says. He’s racist and sexist and homophobic like most people of his generation.

Now, true, people of his generation tend to identify people by their race without even thinking about it. But, Trump attacked a Mexican judge as handing rulings down that were skewed against Trump because the judge was Mexican and Trump is building a wall to keep Mexicans out. If that isn’t racism, what is it?
 
Support for Trump is higher than for Republicans in general. Trump is chipping away at all the mess Obama left us with and a Hillary presidency was supposed to insure. At least with Trump, even with Republicans not offering as much support as they should, he’s moving in the right direction. Trump supporters in general understand that the vitriol against Trump IS an orchestrated campaign by minds poisoned and conditioned by a dangerous progressive/socialist ideology. So even simple support stands against that dangerous progressive ideology.

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I may be splitting hairs, but “Mexican” isn’t a race. Trump is certainly a nationalist, but I don’t believe he meets the definition of racist.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
I may be splitting hairs, but “Mexican” isn’t a race. Trump is certainly a nationalist, but I don’t believe he meets the definition of racist.
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Is this a good definition? Does it apply?

A person who shows or feels discrimination or prejudice against people of other races, or who believes that a particular race is superior to another.
 
I think that is an accurate definition.

I do not think it applies. He certainly feels that America is better than other countries. He may think that “western culture” is better than other cultures, but I’ve not seen or heard anything from him that makes me think he feels whites are better than non-whites simply by virtue of being white.
 
JanSobieskiIII said:
I think that is an accurate definition.

I do not think it applies. He certainly feels that America is better than other countries. He may think that “western culture” is better than other cultures, but I’ve not seen or heard anything from him that makes me think he feels whites are better than non-whites simply by virtue of being white.
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How, then, would you characterize the statement against Judge Curiel? Trump basically said that the judge ruled against him simply because the judge was Mexican and TRump is being tough on Mexicans by building a wall.

If we substitute a black judge who ruled against Trump and Trump said it was because Trump was being tough on black crime, would that be racist?
 
I would honestly need to read more on the background of what was going on to make an opinion.

But off the cuff, I’d say that due to the judges heritage Trump assumed he’d have sympathies for illegal immigrants from south of the border. Is it necessarily a fair assumption? No. But I don’t think it’s racist.

We all make assumptions on people based on how we perceive them, that doesn’t make one racist.
 
HarryStotle said:
listening” to the science of a “flatearther,” you have implicitly admitted that you are at a loss to answer the misconceptions of that science. By admitting THAT, you are implying that your version of “science” has no capacity to correct those misconceptions which is why “not listening” is your only remaining option.
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Some things are not worthy of rational argumentative responses.

Are you going to waste your breath trying to convince the madman who thinks airplanes are not mechanical machines but rather sky demons?

Are you going to waste your breath trying to convince the madman who thinks he is made of glass that he’s not going to shatter if he falls?

Are you going to waste your breath trying to convince the madman who believes the earth is flat or the world is only 6,000 years old?
 
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