Do Catholics still support Trump

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po18guy said:
You are proving the point! Government takes money from others and gives to you. You then receive an education clearly biased in favor of trusting government.
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You’re acting like I’m leeching off money that was stolen from others. My family pays taxes, and so do I. A lot of tax-payers take advantage of government programs, because not everyone is 100% self-sufficient 100% of the time. As I’ve said before, there are vulnerable populations who simply cannot work at all, and many poor who do work but are stuck in financially immobile situations.

College is incredibly expensive, I’m not rich, and there was help available for me. Post-graduation, I’m working full-time and still paying taxes. What a leech I am.
 
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TheAmazingGrace said:
As I’ve said before, Trump isn’t stopping anyone from slicing babies. It puzzles me why you care so darn much about embryos, but act like all other vulnerable populations can go pound sand
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You call that Amazing Grace.
Like Catholics have always said, we didn’t vote for Trump to stop abortion( that will be a bonus though) , we stop Clinton from EXPANDING abortion
 
Your worried about paying taxes but yet you disrespect babies. Seriously
 
Hey Amazing Grace are really a Catholic or any Christian? The way you speak is harsh.
You have to work that out
 
MamasBoy33 said:
Hey Amazing Grace are really a Catholic or any Christian? The way you speak is harsh.

You have to work that out
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Now you’re being rude. As I’ve said before, I’m pro-life. However, I’m not so naive that I can’t recognize lip service to fetal rights vs. actual efforts to help (expectant) mothers and their children.

Also, where did I say I was worried about paying taxes?
 
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She wouldn’t have done worse than our Republican governor, who has recently allowed Medicaid to pay for abortions. Just sayin…
 
MamasBoy33 said:
You call that Amazing Grace.

Like Catholics have always said, we didn’t vote for Trump to stop abortion( that will be a bonus though) , we stop Clinton from EXPANDING abortion
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It wasn’t always Trump vs. Clinton. People could have gone with a different Republican in the primaries, but they just had to drink the orange Kool Aid.
 
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I consider giant tax refunds poor tax planning. But it’s your money. Just hope government doesn’t shut down while your landlord awaits his check.
 
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I see your strategy. Maybe once or twice they did manage to change some of the code midyear, though it does make the forms that much more complicated.
 
godisgood77 said:
You’re being unreasaonble… as I stated earlier an you must have missed. The average citizen does not have ready access to the President. Therefore it is perfectly reasonable to debate, criticize (one of the synomyms of admonish) and otherwise resist the policies and positions put forward by the President.
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Here you go redefining what the word “admonish” actually means. Criticize might be a synonym of admonish if you sit down and have a tête-à-tête with the person you are ostensibly criticizing motivated solely by concern for that person’s well-being. If you have no “ready access” to the President, then clearly you cannot be admonishing him. And if you are criticizing simply to tear the person of the President apart with no actual concern for that person, you are NOT admonishing, you are condemning.

What I am being is very reasonable since the essence of being reasonable is to make clear distinctions rather than become sloppy with the meaning of words.

A great deal of the “critique” of Trump in this thread is precisely a sloppy use of language combined with disingenuous attacks on his political performance based entirely upon an intense dislike for the character of the man.

What is missing is a separation of what he has done politically from what his detractors have largely fictionalized about his character.

You might want to look up the word calumny while you have your dictionary/thesaurus open in front of you.
 
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TheAmazingGrace said:
Now you’re being rude. As I’ve said before, I’m pro-life. However, I’m not so naive that I can’t recognize lip service to fetal rights vs. actually efforts to help (expectant) mothers and their children
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Sorry i didn’t get what your saying. Are you saying your pro-life but woman should be allowed to abort?
 
ProVobis said:
A better way would have been never to allow Hillary to run for any office IMO.

She had problems far exceeding pro-abortion. The ability to piss off Putin and others was one of them. Remember Libya, for example?
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HRC had character issues, too. She does not trust people, she’s secretive, and she’s controlling. She reminds me of people who want to be the chair of committees and nobody who is actually on the committee wants them to be the chair even though they’re qualified in terms of working hard and knowing what they’re doing, because they’re too controlling. Sometimes there is a fate worse than being inefficient.

That doesn’t make anyone who can defeat her quest for control into a better candidate than anyone else who’s ever held the office. It certainly doesn’t put that person above criticism for the rest of their term.
 
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SuperLuigi said:
The comments and likes here just demonstrate how backward some people’s Catholic morality is, to put allegations ahead of slicing up unborn babies.
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That is a false claim, a straw man. No one is saying that.
 
What comes first? Getting the approval of departmental colleagues or the Catholic faith?
 
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