Do Catholics still support Trump

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"No one can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other; or else he will be devoted to one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Mammon. "
 
Those, like me, that hold up poor character as a reason they did not vote for him must take a higher, that is, more precise and documented, road.
Then you must be ecstatic that we didn’t get stuck with a Clinton again .
 
Nearly all Americans just got a tax cut. The standard deduction has been increased, greatly reducing the income tax on the poor. Meanwhile, AT&T is already giving 200,000 employees bonuses and raises due to tax cuts. Other companies announced that they will be also reinvesting in the US again with the new tax law. That’s a lot of families that’ll be able to make ends meet better.
I am glad that businesses will be more inclined to keep revenue in the US. But honestly, do people not realize that revoking the ability to deduct local takes will more than offset any federal cuts?
No health insurance was cancelled by Trump. People simply have their rights restored to them, to be able to prefer to not buy insurance, allowing people to cancel insurance without penalty.
I am sorry I was not clear. I was referring to the loss of the CHIP funding.


nearly half of the children in rural areas of the Southwestern US are covered by CHIP.
The UN doesn’t deserve our funding. If the UN couldn’t stop ISIS, then the UN doesn’t deserve anything from us. Please do better to be informed on what you speak about. Please don’t spread misinformation.
With all due respect, this is an opinion, not a fact.

While I do agree that the UN’s inability to stop ISIS is a problem, I do not think that leaving the place of negotiation improves the ability to solve it. The UN did approve of increased sanctions for North Korea, based upon recent missile launches. This is a very good move.

Pompous and bombastic threats to cut funding and walk away from the UN is not the behavior of a statesman. The “my way or the highway” attitude alienates those who could be potential allies in preserving and promoting world peace.
 
doing programs like that nationally and/or federally seems like a really bad road to go down (mainly because many of our past efforts federally has not helped make education better/cheaper/more affordable).
I think this idea of trading public service for loan repayment would work better if it were month for month, rather than a 10 year plan. Most people change jobs every 3 years, so it makes it less probable persons will remain in public service to obtain the loan forgiveness.

I recently took a $ 16,0000 pay cut to get into such a position, but most people can’t afford to do that.
 
I think in this topic so far , Trump supporters are doing a great job as far as helping the Anti Trump people.
I don’t think a person who disagrees with how Trump behaves is necessarily 'anti-Trump". This kind of behavior would bother me no matter who embodied it!

That’s the point of this for us Catholics to respect the President and pray for him.
Actually, now that he has been unable to earn my respect as an individual, I must work doubly hard to pray for him.

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people who don’t like Trump i think should stay and let it all out.

I can’t say that I don’t like him, or not, because I only can go on his public face, which I find deplorable. It is good that I do not “let it all out” as some of it is not complimentary. “Instead, speak only what is good so that you can give help wherever it is needed. That way, what you say will help those who hear you.” Eph. 4:29

I am not convinced that “letting it all out” with regard to my disdain for his behaviors would be beneficial at all.
As Catholics that support Trump just need to continue to do what you guys are doing by showing love with patients
I cannot support such deplorable behaviors, but I can agree to pray for him, and support the office he occupies. I pray that God will spare us the consequences of his impulsivity, narcissism, and greed.
 
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I cannot support such deplorable behaviors, but I can agree to pray for him, and support the office he occupies. I pray that God will spare us the consequences of his impulsivity, narcissism, and greed.
You started off good with your sentence them at the end you lost your humility with the narcissistic comment
 
You started off good with your sentence them at the end you lost your humility with the narcissistic comment
It would be a failure of right judgment not to recognize narcissism when it is present. We are all capable of narcissism. Some of us manifest it more than others. Narcissim is one of the main desires of the flesh that results from the Fall of man.

I would lack humility only if I could not say "there, but for the grace of God, go I ".
 
Didn’t pope Francis say " if a person didn’t understand another person, then that person loses his humility"
Amen
 
Didn’t pope Francis say " if a person didn’t understand another person, then that person loses his humility"

Amen
Whether he said it or not, I would stipulate that it is true. We can best recognize traits in others with which we are intimately acquainted in ourselves. So my intimacy with my own narcissism will make me better able to recognize and understand it in others.
 
Supported him throughout his campaign and still do.
I am curious what “support” means exactly in this context. Are you supporting denigrating of women, il will and lies about immigrants, making fun of disabled people, proferring greed as a virtue?
 
These things you mentioned are not the hall marks of Donald Trump’s life, and work and existence.

These were pulled out of context by his political opponents.

Trump was loved by the Democrats when he was a Democrat; posed for pictures.

Now he is hated by the Democrats.
 
These things you mentioned are not the hall marks of Donald Trump’s life, and work and existence.

These were pulled out of context by his political opponents.

Trump was loved by the Democrats when he was a Democrat; posed for pictures.

Now he is hated by the Democrats.
No, it appears some of the hallmarks of his life and existence are even more deplorable, but your comment was that you supported him during the campaign, and still do. Those are activities that were manifested during the campaign, so I wondered if they were included in your “support” of him.

It may be that such behaviors were “pulled out of context by political opponents”, but from my perspective, there is no appropriate context for such behavior, so that is a moot point.

I am ot a democrat, and I find your third and fourth point irrelevant to my question. I do believe that Mr. Trump has some skill as a camelion and wil take on the shade of whatever benefits him personally at the moment.

Does the statement of “support Trump” in this thread include supporting those behaviors and attitudes that became public knowledge during the campaign?
 
These things you mentioned are not the hall marks of Donald Trump’s life, and work and existence.
Yes, they absolutely are. He has admitted to, bragged about, promiscuity, adultery, sexual assault. He has stiffed the little guy at every chance he can. His businesses declared bankruptcy multiple times as a business strategy to not pay lawful debts. He disclosed SCI to the Russians!

These things are the hallmarks of his life. There is a long history of Donald Trump’s views and attitudes in the media.
These were pulled out of context by his political opponents.
There is no context I could imagine that would mitigate the awfulness of his statements and actions.
Trump was loved by the Democrats when he was a Democrat; posed for pictures.

Now he is hated by the Democrats.
Not sure that means anything.
 
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Whether he said it or not, I would stipulate that it is true. We can best recognize traits in others with which we are intimately acquainted in ourselves. So my intimacy with my own narcissism will make me better able to recognize and understand it in others.
Not if you are so “intimate” with your narcissism that it prevents you from recognizing and understanding those who are NOT narcissists, like, for example, psychologically healthy people. Wouldn’t a narcissist, by that very fact, be unable to look beyond themselves to others? Perhaps if you are a rehabilitated or reformed narcissist, your claim might be true, but it seems to me that merely being in some deprived, depraved, perverted or incomplete state doesn’t, by that token, make you more insightful or therapeutically helpful.

A schizophrenic isn’t necessarily “better able” to recognize and understand it in others unless s/he has moved beyond or recovered from the condition. Even then, it is no guarantee. It might be true what you say, but it may also not be true. It certainly isn’t true that “we can best recognize or understand…traits…with which we are intimately acquainted” (in the sense of being debilitated by those very traits) if those traits are debilitating to begin with.

Besides, if your analysis is true, then perhaps Trump is in the perfect position to understand the embodiment of all evil and fight against it, since, as you say, he would be better able to recognize all such evils in others and protect the country against them. Perhaps his former life was a reconnaissance journey into evil to learn it intimately in order to learn best how to fight against it? 😉
 
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Well, the only person until now that I know used the word “deplorable” was Hillary Clinton.

And I think that alone cost her the election.
 
Yes, they absolutely are. He has admitted to, bragged about, promiscuity, adultery, sexual assault. He has stiffed the little guy at every chance he can. His businesses declared bankruptcy multiple times as a business strategy to not pay lawful debts. He disclosed SCI to the Russians!

These things are the hallmarks of his life. There is a long history of Donald Trump’s views and attitudes in the media.

There is no context I could imagine that would mitigate the awfulness of his statements and actions.

Not sure that means anything.
Well, there’s your problem, Paul: you have been a saint all your life so you have little acquaintance with corruption and evil. 😇 Your gut reaction is to avoid and run from it, rather than battle against it. 😱 Clearly, Trump is acquainted with every possible evil and so he is in the perfect position to recognize and root it out. 😎

We need to think outside the box on this one. 😬
 
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