Do Catholics still support Trump

[Katherine438]

I voted for Trump because of who was running against him … my feelings as of today are 50/50 … he does some good things and he does some bad … I pray for him.

 

[MamasBoy33]

That’s true my sister. We won’t ender have a perfect President bevause Jesus or Mary isn’t running.

 

[guanophore]

I pray for him.

We need to do this every day, or maybe several times a day!

 

[MamasBoy33]

Yes, we should be praying pur rosary everyday and putting Trump and pence in our petitions

 

[boclucky14]

I am not sure how exactly his virtue of personal greed is to benefit the country, perhaps giving tax cuts to the most wealthy? Perhaps defunding the UN? Cancelling health insurance for the lower middle class and the poor?

1. Nearly all Americans just got a tax cut. The standard deduction has been increased, greatly reducing the income tax on the poor. Meanwhile, AT&T is already giving 200,000 employees bonuses and raises due to tax cuts. Other companies announced that they will be also reinvesting in the US again with the new tax law. That’s a lot of families that’ll be able to make ends meet better.
2. The UN doesn’t deserve our funding. If the UN couldn’t stop ISIS, then the UN doesn’t deserve anything from us.
3. No health insurance was cancelled by Trump. People simply have their rights restored to them, to be able to prefer to not buy insurance, allowing people to cancel insurance without penalty.

Please do better to be informed on what you speak about. Please don’t spread misinformation.

 

[PaulinVA]

Nearly all Americans just got a tax cut. The standard deduction has been increased, greatly reducing the income tax on the poor. Meanwhile, AT&T is already giving 200,000 employees bonuses and raises due to tax cuts. Other companies announced that they will be also reinvesting in the US again with the new tax law. That’s a lot of families that’ll be able to make ends meet better.

My kids and grandkids are paying for that tax cut and those bonuses for all those people. This tax plan is putting us more that 1 trillion more in debt for stimulus we don’t need. It’s not smart.

The UN doesn’t deserve our funding. If the UN couldn’t stop ISIS, then the UN doesn’t deserve anything from us.

Spoken like a true nationalist.

No health insurance was cancelled by Trump. People simply have their rights restored to them, to be able to prefer to not buy insurance, allowing people to cancel insurance without penalty.

Without healthy people in the exchanges, premiums just get higher and insurance carriers will leave even more markets Ending the cost-sharing reductions makes care even more unaffordable for some people.

Please do better to be informed on what you speak about. Please don’t spread misinformation.

Please do better to be informed on what you speak about. Please don’t spread misinformation.

 

[sainteriksrose]

Trump supporters were being compared to BO supporters…

And I pointed out that we did NOT react to him the way HC supporters reacted to Trump. Which is merely a blatant now historic - and very well documented - fact.

 

[ProVobis]

A tax cut which ultimately leads to higher taxes is a fraud. And Trump’s the master of that.

And if companies are now paying bonuses to their employees, that means they have had the money all along and probably had been served well by the QE purchases, which the taxpayers had been on the hook for anyway. I for one am not rejoicing, but I do hope interest rates rise for personal gain.

 

[jfz178]

“We still seek no wider war.” - Lyndon Johnson

“I did not have sexual relations with that woman.” - Bill Clinton

“A man I am proud to call my friend. A man who will be the next president of the United States: Barack America!” - Joe Biden

“I have been in 57 states. I think I have one left to go.” - Barack Obama

We could keep this up all day!

 

[ProVobis]

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[boclucky14]

My kids and grandkids are paying for that tax cut and those bonuses for all those people. This tax plan is putting us more that 1 trillion more in debt for stimulus we don’t need. It’s not smart.

Which is not what I was responding to. As in, my generation and the next generation. I’m fully aware I’m already paying for my parent’s and grand parent’s generational mistakes. And I’ll work until the grave to pay those excesses back. However, if you actually cared about our deficit and debt, then lower taxes shouldn’t be what your complaining about, as our current taxes aren’t covering out current spending (hence, the deficit). If we want to solve the deficit, it will have to come from spending. But that’s a discussion no one wants to have apparently.

Spoken like a true nationalist.

No. I am patriotic, but I’m not a nationalist. I understand the UN for what it is - a corrupt organization that doesn’t protect anyone’s human rights. I’m more than willing to support other countries and missions for those countries, but not through the UN.

Without healthy people in the exchanges, premiums just get higher and insurance carriers will leave even more markets Ending the cost-sharing reductions makes care even more unaffordable for some people.

If you want to know what throwing free government money does, look at college tuition for the past 50 years. The more free money, the more costs will rise to account for that influx of free money. Otherwise, that money will go to someone else. If you want to make health care and insurance cheaper, the last fix is flooding it with money. Health insurance premiums rose more after Obamacare than before Obamacare, even with all that “cost-sharing reduction”.

Please do better to be informed on what you speak about. Please don’t spread misinformation.

Which I didn’t. Do not misrepresent me. Please see what I was responding to, which was complete misinformation and had no thread of truth - it was liberal-based talking points. If you claim I lied in response to those comments I was originally responding to, please state where, and I’ll correct myself. All the points you made above are not supporting arguments to what I was responding to.

 

[MamasBoy33]

Paul , how do you feel about President Trump?

 

[josh987654321]

I am glad that he is not supporting abortion. I think he is doing it to get the support of his evangelical base. But whatever his motive may be, the outcome is good.

If every pro-life Catholic refuses to give his/her vote to a pro-abortion politician (as they should be), only then will the other side wake up to their evil support for abortion and only then can they become a viable alternative to hold the other side accountable.

One poster said people would vote for a trashcan if it had the words ‘pro-life’ on it, well, I would vote for a trashcan in that instance, maybe if the trashcan wins they’ll get the message, the message that no other issue is as important as the right to life, because without it, no other rights matter and those who get it wrong over something so fundamental, will get everything else wrong and certainly do not have God’s blessing.

God Bless

Thank you for reading.

 

[Wolfie]

An example of government doing a good thing for education access: In my city, a small percentage from the sale of luxury houses ($5,000,000+) goes toward providing community college education for city residents.

 

[boclucky14]

An example of government doing a good thing for education access: In my city, a small percentage from the sale of luxury houses ($5,000,000+) goes toward providing community college education for city residents.

Which is great. But, you did say, “in my city”. It’s fantastic to do education initiatives locally - I know I benefited from state-funded merit scholarships (mostly funded by the not-required-to-use-but-still-a-monopoly lottery program) - but doing programs like that nationally and/or federally seems like a really bad road to go down (mainly because many of our past efforts federally has not helped make education better/cheaper/more affordable).

 

[MamasBoy33]

I think in this topic so far , Trump supporters are doing a great job as far as helping the Anti Trump people.
That’s the point of this for us Catholics to respect the President and pray for him.
The people who don’t like Trump i think should stay and let it all out.
As Catholics that support Trump just need to continue to do what you guys are doing by showing love with patients

 

[MamasBoy33]

Joe Sikkora on Catholic Radio says let it out let your frustration out if your angry, so when you are all drained out you could hear the voice of the Lord.

 

[Spyridon]

@MamasBoy33

It really is disturbing seeing to what degree you associate political leanings with religiousity and even nearness to God…

There are some very holy Republicans.
There are some very unholy Republicans.

There are some very unholy Democrats.
There are some very holy Democrats.

There are some very holy apolitical people.
There are some very unholy apolitical people.

Political affiliation has almost zero correlation to personal holiness, with the exception of extremist political ideology (Nazism, Stalinism, etc.)

But in the context of American mainstream politics, political leaning has little to no bearing on personal holiness.

 

[boclucky14]

One poster said people would vote for a trashcan if it had the words ‘pro-life’ on it, well, I would vote for a trashcan in that instance

I would too. On top of that though, it need not be a pro-life trashcan. We have plenty of decent pro-life governors, representatives, senators, and now (arguably) president, at least in policies. To argue that all pro-life candidates are horrible is disregarding many of those politicians.

 

[pnewton]

That could be done privately and judiciously while undertaking your civic responsibilities.

If you note here, those who praise President Trump do not do so privately.

By all means let’s justify our own petty animosity by warranting our uncharitable comments and behavior by references to Church teaching and thereby implicate both Christ and the Church at large in our ruthlessness.

I quoted Church teaching. You are adding this part about it needs to be private. So, can you show where this appears in the document? I will concede that the language needs to be less hysterical, but if one is using the very words of the President, or actions that are not in dispute, I do not see the problem with stating what is already public. We should try and steer from that which is unsubstantiated, even if President Trump and his supporters do not.

Those, like me, that hold up poor character as a reason they did not vote for him must take a higher, that is, more precise and documented, road.