Do Catholics still support Trump

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ProVobis said:
the wall can be part of a comprehensive immigration policy
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Part of the problem is that current laws are already not being enforced. I do agree that we need to seal porous borders, I am just not convinced a “wall” is the best idea. Furthmore, the rhetoric that Mexico should pay for it is an embarrassment. I was so embarrassed when the President of Mexico contradicted what Trump says. This sort of situation only undermines our credibility as a nation.
 
I agree. Since most of us consider Mexico an ally, it seems that something could have easily been worked out between the two countries. After all, neighborhoods are filled with fences or other sort of borders with no hostility involved. But then what would a Trump presidency be without some kind of controversy introduced?
 
PaulinVA said:
But we, collectively, have an obligation to help the less fortunate.
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i disagree with the collective idea.

if a person is religious, they may have an individual moral obligation. they should be able to give what they want to the organization they want. the government should not be involved. the poor were taken care of before big brother stepped in.

if a person is non-religious, nothing mandates a person do anything about those less fortunate. the government is just intruding on your right to life. you do not have to be your brother’s keeper. the choice is yours.
PaulinVA said:
I am not in favor of redistribution of wealth.
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i would not have guessed that from your replies.
PaulinVA said:
The people funding the entitlement programs should have the say in how they are funded and administered.
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are you a democrat?
 
Benadam said:
Trump is scandalous, embarrassing at best,
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Trunk is scandalous? Ummm A president that live his veterans, people, country , jobs is not scandalous. You’ve been hit with to much CNN news. Fo ask your local Priest if he’s scandalous and come back with that answer
 
upant said:
if a person is non-religious, nothing mandates a person do anything about those less fortunate. the government is just intruding on your right to life. you do not have to be your brother’s keeper. the choice is yours.
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I think we have a moral obligation as a country to provide a minimum for the less fortunate, especially children and single mothers.

As individuals, the Gospel tells us that we should cloth the naked, feed the hungry.
upant said:
I am not in favor of redistribution of wealth.

i would not have guessed that from your replies.
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Apparently, I am full of surprises!
upant said:
The people funding the entitlement programs should have the say in how they are funded and administered.

are you a democrat?
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No, I am a former Republican, although, in Virginia we don’t declare party affiliation when we register to vote.

I do lean right, and would consider myself conservative. I just don’t support the current President.

I try to balance everything out, and, frankly, my wife and I feel left out of the process lately. I supported Jeb in the primary - I think his immigration plan is compassionate and respects the rule of law. He favors a path to permanent resident status, not citizenship, for those here illegally.
 
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Spyridon said:
Fully admits to being ignorant about geopolitics and political science
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Yes ignorant just means" lacking knowledge". So i lack the knowledge of What’s going on in Jerusalem.
I know the basics like they fighting for this territory since after Ww2. I know the bible proclaims Jerusalem as the chosen people and maybe tbe embassy should be moved to declare the city God has chosen.
 
Spyridon said:
Tries to push his political views on everyone
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I push more love and try to make you love and not have so much hate. I push the BIBLE bevause that’s all i know my bro
You see the frustration and the hate is the reason why i made this Topic, if you can’t love your enemy then we have a problem. You claim to say "yeah i don’t hate " but deep down i THINK you drawvery close.
Im into Jesus and the Bible
 
I’m into Jesus and the Bible too…

Which is why I imitate the Lord and the Prophets in standing up for the oppressed and facing down godless demagogues.
 
I still completely support him. I have no doubt in my mind he is better than Hillary Clinton would have been for this country at this time. Just because I support Trump doesn’t necessarily imply I ‘like’ or respect him to any great degree. He is just the better option. That alone should be sobering. Still, it reflects more poorly on the left than the right. How far they have fallen, disoriented themselves. Trump is a capable, determined leader, much more competent than Obama. I am so tired of the left’s and the media’s attacks against him, the slander and dishonesty about what he is doing, what he stands for. I said way back when he would be a moderate Republican and so he is more or less, not that far from a Bush. You would think he is Attila the Hun. Again, the real fury and chaos is on the left, their refusal to work with Trump for the common good. That is the brokenness that I find so sad and worrying - it is bad for the country. And it is around the globe - Europe anyway is in on it too. I think they just followed Obama, the American global left, establishment money, like sheep. It is a mindset, a faith. A morality. You see it reflected even now in this stuff like sexual harassment - now Britain is taking itself out with this too. Salem witch trials. Monkey see America do, monkey does.
 
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You could refer to him as any name calling you want, but all your local priest how he feels about Trump.
You could find many scriptures to throw but at the end of the day your Faith hope and charity must apply to your heart. To go out andc teach another person that Trump is evil is sin bevause you don’t know what’s on the man’s heart. I see him fighting for us and making moves for us but people are worried about it. Jesus is going to guide him through our prayers. We must pray for him like in the books of Pope peter, Romans Titus and Timothy
 
PaulinVA said:
I think we have a moral obligation as a country to provide a minimum for the less fortunate, especially children and single mothers.
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the country has a subjective moral bearing. this is why abortion and gay marriage are legal. i don’t trust the morals of the feds. the political parties are the two wings of the same bird.

i think these issues should be handled at the state level.
PaulinVA said:
As individuals, the Gospel tells us that we should cloth the naked, feed the hungry.
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the key word is we. it doesn’t say paying your taxes is supporting the poor.
PaulinVA said:
a path to permanent resident status, not citizenship, for those here illegally.
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a good idea, but it just increase the foot traffic hoping for the same deal.
Spyridon said:
Which is why I imitate the Lord and the Prophets in standing up for the oppressed and facing down godless demagogues.
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is your way the only way to do this? the way we have been doing it hasn’t worked so far. we need to try something else.
 
upant said:
I think we have a moral obligation as a country to provide a minimum for the less fortunate, especially children and single mothers.

the country has a subjective moral bearing. this is why abortion and gay marriage are legal. i don’t trust the morals of the feds. the political parties are the two wings of the same bird.

i think these issues should be handled at the state level.
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State level is okay, BUT, for states hard hit with unemployment or economic downturns, the state doesn’t have the resources to help.
upant said:
As individuals, the Gospel tells us that we should cloth the naked, feed the hungry.

the key word is we. it doesn’t say paying your taxes is supporting the poor.
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I agree with “supporting the poor” with taxes is wrong, but preventing people from dying is a government responsiblity.
upant said:
a path to permanent resident status, not citizenship, for those here illegally.

a good idea, but it just increase the foot traffic hoping for the same deal.
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Whatever, but, I need those people to be legal and working so that I can retire and get Social Security and Medicare!
 
It hasn’been proved he molested anyone. Everything so far has been a lie. God says don’t falsely accuse anyone. If you can’t prove it don’t repeat it.
 
June said:
It hasn’been proved he molested anyone. Everything so far has been a lie. God says don’t falsely accuse anyone. If you can’t prove it don’t repeat it.
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He admitted/boasted to molesting women!

Since you weren’t there at each of the incidents, you have no idea if they are lies. But, remember, he admitted he does it.
 
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Imo it’s too bad most of the MSM doesn’t practice professional journalism…

Instead we have whomevers who think their opinions matter, and only tell us what they want us to hear. Thanks be to Jesus Christ their attempts at manipulating voters failed.
 
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Meh, I’m through with opinion polls ever since the last presidential election.
 
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