Do Catholics still support Trump

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we are not to follow blindly:
I am not blind, either to what our teachers teach or what politicians say. That is the very reason I do not agree with many here.

We are not to take things at face value; whether it be a liberal whose disregard for the poor down the street belies his concern for the poor from the lectern, the real estate tycoon who speaks of the value of life on when he decides to run for president and needs the support, or a devotee of the Blessed Virgin who fails to show the charity of Our Mother to his brothers and sisters.
 
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exactly, I don’t know how people of faith can support those who make policies that destroy it
 
I think a problem is some people perceive politics as binary. You do not need to support a major party’s candidate if you don’t want to. If, for a particular position, both aren’t worthy of your vote, don’t vote for either one.
 
that is a problem. I’m thinking my post reminded you of that problem. that’s a problem too if so
 
Sorry Paul, I should have looked at who you were posting to
Sorry, I was on my phone and didn’t want to quote a whole post.

But, your post about people of faith is indeed true. In the present time, where both candidates were flawed, do you have to pick? I know it’s our civic duty, but I found that morally I couldn’t vote for Hillary or Trump.

There’s the whole voting against a candidate to keep them out of office, but if the alternative is bad…
 
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exactly why we should repeal obamacare.

it was good for some

it was bad for some

and very bad for others.
There was nothing about the ACA that couldn’t be fixed with money.

We just gave the affluent a tax cut they didn’t need. We could have thrown some of that money at the cost sharing reimbursements and premium subsidies instead. It costs a lot to provide coverage to sicker people.
 
Trump is scandalous, embarrassing at best,. I voted for him because because he most represented the policies I wanted, I can vote for a democrat id i thought my vote would advance a change or keep one from happening
 
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my concerns are mainly the changes being made to the family and religious liberty
 
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There was nothing about the ACA that couldn’t be fixed with money.
whose money?

the middle class usually foots the bill for most things. the individual mandate was a tax on the young middle class.
Sure, tax money. If you want to do it, do it right.
 
That would be Trump’s devotion to his family, his defense of actual immigrants rather than illegals, his support for the less well off, and his defense of national security and the interests of citizens of his country.
It is appropriate for all of us to support these values. That may be difficult for those who wish to focus only on the negative. It has been pointed out (accurately) that we voted for a president, not a saint,a nd that none of our presidents have been without their failings. We need to support what is good, whereever it is found.
 
We just gave the affluent a tax cut they didn’t need.
where does the wealth distribution stop? what figure becomes the right amount to keep?

do you need your tax cut? do you want to pay more?

how would someone who has nothing look at you? would they consider you rich? do they want you to pay more? is it right or fair for you to pay more?
It costs a lot to provide coverage to sicker people.
every time the government throws money at something the cost go up and usually the quality goes down.

at one time everyone saw a doctor. now you see a nurse or a nurse practitioner or a physician assistant or a registered something or another. the quality of care is not the same and the cost have gone through the roof.
 
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That would be Trump’s devotion to his family, his defense of actual immigrants rather than illegals, his support for the less well off, and his defense of national security and the interests of citizens of his country.
It is appropriate for all of us to support these values. That may be difficult for those who wish to focus only on the negative. It has been pointed out (accurately) that we voted for a president, not a saint,a nd that none of our presidents have been without their failings. We need to support what is good, whereever it is found.
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where does the wealth distribution stop? what figure becomes the right amount to keep?
I am not in favor of redistribution of wealth. I want to keep what I earn. But we, collectively, have an obligation to help the less fortunate. Instead of what’s the right amount to keep, how about what is the right amount to confiscate?
do you need your tax cut? do you want to pay more?
No, I don’t need it. I could pay more. I am fortunate.
how would someone who has nothing look at you? would they consider you rich? do they want you to pay more? is it right or fair for you to pay more?
I don’t think it’s right for people who have less than me to expect that I pay a certain amount in taxes, or that the government give them a certain level of benefits. The people funding the entitlement programs should have the say in how they are funded and administered.
 
exactly why we should repeal obamacare.
Right and go back to underwriting and non-standard policies which cover everything except what’s related to pre-existing conditions. And let’s throw in some fraud as well.
 
where does the wealth distribution stop? what figure becomes the right amount to keep?
Good question. Before Reagan, a 70% tax figure was tolerated. Then it became under 40%, wavering between 36% and 39%. There seems to be more “parity” now but as long as we have a tax code, there will never be a “fair” system.
 
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