Do Catholics still support Trump

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MamasBoy33 said:
You remind sort of the Pope Bloggers. Everything he says they twist.

You do that to me all day. Lol
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If a person only has one way of seeing things, then I suppose he will see any other point of view as “twisted”. I am not criticizing your voting choices, or even your support of Trump. You need to do what your conscience dictates.

I am trying to give you some feedback about how you are coming across with your words. I am not the only one on this thread who perceives you this way. Are we all “twisted” because we find your accusations disparaging of your siblings in Christ?
 
upant said:
abortion is probably the most thought out topic in christian politics.

why would a sheriff enter into the abortion argument unless he needed pro-choice votes. his mentioning it would cause me concern.
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When someone runs on an issue that has essentially nothing to do with their office, that concerns me.

I’m also concerned when they promise to do a better job than someone already doing it but show little evidence that they even understand what someone with that job does or does not have the jurisdiction to do.

One would hope that would be a matter for primaries! It is too bad when a party of voters nominate someone who doesn’t seem clear on what the job is.
 
PaulinVA said:
I totally disagree with you.
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of course you do, you have too. otherwise you have to admit you support abortion.

your local politician/sheriff/ school board member support of planned parenthood does make a difference.

we will have to agree to disagree.
 
I’m trying to make you understand why we support Trump.
Ok i proved my point on why voted for him even if you disagree.
For me, once again MY OPINION( especially to Twisted Metal lol jk), since i voted against Hillary and prayed deadly to get her out then now yippy want me to pray to get trump out? So them he’s going to give us the next president (that won’t be perfect) and then i have to pray for him to get out.
Sp when do i get satisfied for the perfect or decent President?
Outs never going to happen.
So while you guys sit on the sidelines, biting your finger nails, yelling at the umpires and the refs, I’ll be playing and getting dirty and physical with that sword with all my teammates like deacons priest cardinals and bishops
 
MamasBoy33 said:
So while you guys sit on the sidelines, biting your finger nails, yelling at the umpires and the refs, I’ll be playing and getting dirty and physical with that sword with all my teammates like deacons priest cardinals and bishops
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In all Christian charity let me tell you that you are playing out of your league.
 
MamasBoy33 said:
This is the reason. The church gives us our 5 non negotiables, aborting, stem cell research , anesthesia etc…
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I think you mean euthanasia. However this list of 5 issues being in a different category from all other issues is a view by some in the Church, but is not official infallible doctrine.
 
And I’m not bashing you for voting for Trump, I know why you do, and I’ve heard the arguments before you. Neither am I saying don’t pray for Trump or pray that he gets impeached. I only got involved in this thread when you bashed third party voters, that’s it, and that’s the only reason I’m chiming in. I can see why a Catholic in good conscience could vote for Trump. I’m trying to let you see that there is a legitimate case for voting third party, and that they’re not on the side lines, angry, letting babies die, or whatever other slander you’ve thrown at us. And yes, we know you don’t think it’s sinful.

I told you of a case of a Deacon voting third party. Besides the priests you’ve asked, do you really think every priest, nun, cardinal, sister, brother, etc. in the US voted for Trump? You have no grounds to make that claim, unless those clergy and religious who didn’t are side liners in your eyes.
 
MamasBoy33 said:
That’s a SACRIFICE my bro.
When it hurts you, when you dont want to do it, when it feels uncomfortable, when you take a lost, when its going to piss you off, but you know your doing something Great then that’s a sacrifice.
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This is a very twisted concept of “sacrifice.” Sacrifice is not just anything that makes you feel uncomfortable. Sacrifice is giving up some personal pleasure or good as a gift to God. When your conscience tells you that voting for someone who pays lip service to banning abortion is not as good as voting for someone who does not say that, then voting for the candidate that you feel will be more harmful is not a sacrifice. It is just a bad exercise of your duty to do good.
 
MamasBoy33 said:
My support of Trump is wonderful
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I am glad it pleases you. If you would like others to have the same “wonderful” experience you might wish to reconsider your approach.
MamasBoy33 said:
I’m trying to make you understand why we support Trump.
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Ok. Then why didn’t you make yoru thread "why we should all support Trump so we will be good Catholics?
MamasBoy33 said:
Ok i proved my point on why voted for him even if you disagree.
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I was never seeking any such proof or demonstration. I didn’t notice that anyone else here did either.
MamasBoy33 said:
For me, once again MY OPINION( especially to Twisted Metal lol jk), since i voted against Hillary and prayed deadly to get her out then now yippy want me to pray to get trump out?
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No.
MamasBoy33 said:
So while you guys sit on the sidelines, biting your finger nails, yelling at the umpires and the refs, I’ll be playing and getting dirty and physical with that sword with all my teammates like deacons priest cardinals and bishops
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Ok, MB. You seem to be pursuaded that others who do not feel the same way you do are sitting on the sidelines and posessed of all manner of unchristian motives and emotions, anger,negativity, “nail biting” (is that anxiety?) and are yelling at the refs and umpires (not sure who these roles symbolize). People that do not agree with everything you say are not your “teammates” and are not on the same “team” as our clergy.

You don’t seem to be able to grasp how/why this view is narrow minded and bigoted.
 
guanophore said:
motives and emotions, anger,negativity, “nail biting” (is that anxiety?) and are yelling at the refs and umpires (not sure who these roles symbolize
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I’m saying that you guys are just talking but not really doing nothing about your pro-life claim.
You claim your pro-life but your actions seem to be quieted.
What do hard to understand
 
MamasBoy33 said:
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LeafByNiggle:
. However this list of 5 issues being in a different category from all other issues is a view by some in the Church
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This are the top 5 in voting
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This is not binding doctrine. A Catholic is not bound to place these five issues ahead of every other issue in every situation in voting. In fact the only doctrine in the Catechism directly referencing voting says only that we are obliged to participate in civic life by voting.
 
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