Do Christians and muslims worship same God?

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Other religions believe in an Unborn (uncreated) Eternal Being from whom all things came and from which every thing that is and all that is in between them came. Hindus, and even some Pagan religions could be said to have the same belief in The Creator of All that is.

If that is what is necessary to say it is the same belief between muslim and christian, then even many religions would be said to believe in this.
 
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these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."
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The word profess is important in this context. Muslims do not hold the faith of Abraham.
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Also, i hope your are not suggesting their profession does not mean anything. If this were the case then our profession does not mean anything either thus giving validity to the JWs who believe we do not worship the one true God because of our actions vs our profession and that just because we profess that we don’t worship Mary that in fact we do.

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The Bible says:
5 Thomas said to him, “Lord, we don’t know where you are going, so how can we know the way?” 6 Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me (John 14:5-6, NIV).
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The True God is God of all the world, no matter what humans believe. What I think many people have trouble with is why God wants humans to believe a certain thing. But did He not get angry when Israelites believed in other gods?

Though God is the Abrahamic God, He allowed persons in Old Testament times to believe in Him as One person, though hints of the Trinity are throughout. The Israelites probably would not have understood the Trinity, considering we can’t even understand today. But once Christ came, He made it understood we are to believe in Him in order to be saved.

I think the people who have trouble with the concept that it doesn’t matter what you believe can come from many backgrounds, some very educated and “spiritual.” Some, such as theologians, influenced the CCC itself. I personally believe God has made clear He wants us to believe that Jesus Christ is the Savior, that He came to Earth to die for our sins, and that we who have heard of Jesus Christ must take this very seriously and subsequently believe in Him and these tenants if we want to see heaven.

We don’t want to think God would condemn people for believing the wrong thing. But God can do as He sees fit and we must watch against our own pride. There is spiritual warfare going on, though many do not take that seriously. But I think what each human being believes about God is at the very center of that warfare. And what each human being believes can affect his or her everlasting life.
 
For me it’s really very simple. Regardless of whether muslims believe in the same God as I the consequent result of what they do believe in regards to their particular system is not correct in accordance to the Bible.

I see their faith system as nothing more than a cult, a system formed by one man (who wrote the quran) to control the masses. Muslims rank at the same level as scientology to me and the people who so adamantly follow that system are walking a precarious path.
 
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For me it’s really very simple. Regardless of whether muslims believe in the same God as I the consequent result of what they do believe in regards to their particular system is not correct in accordance to the Bible.
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Our judgement counts for nothing, only Christ can make that judgement. I am sure that he will judge in a way that none of us could. We are much safer making judgements against ourselves rather than others, because we can try and change ourselves.
 
Absolutely we worship the same God. If St. Paul could tell the Athenians that they already worship God at the altar of the “Unknown” (Acts 17:23) then we can’t deny that Muslims also worship Him. At least, His Divine Nature.

From Scripture it seems God made a covenant with Ishmael (Gen 17:20); but He also identifies Himself as the “God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob” and not the God of “Abraham and Ishmael” which I believe has profound meaning as well.
 
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It’s not about me judging muslims it’s about me being a Catholic and reading the Bible. I will not sit on morals whilst Christians are murdered in the name of a man who wrote the quran.
 
They can “profess” all they want, but their leader Mohammad tells us the truth about their “God” and he is not the same God (Jesus) whom I worship.
 
This is what the CCC says about this issue (for about the 15th time)
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."330
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Now, if you are a Catholic and have a issue with the the Living Magisterium’s teaching, worrying about Muslims is the least of your problems.
 
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This is what the CCC says about this issue (for about the 15th time)
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind’s judge on the last day."330
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Maybe I’m reading it wrong, like some others. What does this mean to you or how would you explain this in layman’s to a Muslim or a Jew?
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Not sure how it could be more “layman” or plain than it is. You have to look for reasons to complicate it.
 
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Not sure how it could be more “layman” or plain than it is. You have to look for reasons to complicate it.
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I don’t want to complicate it at all. And I am not trying to be argumentative with you, nor am I merely looking to win a debate. .

I sincerely want to know what this means to you. If a Muslim or a Jew asks you a question about salvation and they referenced this document; can they get to heaven while remaining in their religion or would they need to convert?
 
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Not sure how it could be more “layman” or plain than it is. You have to look for reasons to complicate it.
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I don’t want to complicate it at all. And I am not trying to be argumentative with you, nor am I merely looking to win a debate. .

I sincerely want to know what this means to you. If a Muslim or a Jew asks you a question about salvation and they referenced this document; can they get to heaven while remaining in their religion or would they need to convert?
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They should seek God just like you and I.
I am a baptized Catholic. If I do not follow God I will not see God. Same with you.

If a Muslim follows God, as God is working in the Muslim’s conscience, he should eventually become one with Christ in the Catholic Church.

The religion of Islam professes recognition of the one God, but does not understand or worship the one God in the same way. The Catholic Church is the one Body of Christ that all people are called to.
 
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They should seek God just like you and I.
I am a baptized Catholic. If I do not follow God I will not see God. Same with you.
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Agreed.

Just so I understand what you’re saying, if they follow God, their faith/desire to seek God, should lead them to the Catholic Church.

However, if they never convert or state that they do not NEED to convert, we as Catholics would not be wrong to tell a Muslim or Jew, that by remaining a Muslim or a Jew they can or will see Heaven because we are all following the same God?
 
It seems to me our approach to and understanding of this issue depends on the eyes of faith we are using.
The Church has the faith and hope for all people to be saved. That is the Church’s mission: to proclaim the Gospel. We open the door for others, not shut the door.
If our default bias is that Muslims are going to hell, then our understanding is by default clouded.
 
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However, if they never convert or state that they do not NEED to convert, we as Catholics would not be wrong to tell a Muslim or Jew, that by remaining a Muslim or a Jew they can or will see Heaven because we are all following the same God?
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The Church teaches that Muslims and Jews can be saved without converting to Catholicism. The Church does not teach that they will, but does teach that they can. That is very plain from the quoted text, but also from the other teachings of the Church and from what the Popes have said.

I don’t see this as a teaching that is hard to understand, but some seem to find it hard to accept.
 
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