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AmazingâŚ
Muslims say we do not, you say we do. Who has more authority of knowing? You or they? Do you know Islam? Do you know anything in regard to what is in the last message to mankind except your accusatory statements? This shows arrogance and ignorance of not even wanting to learn about Islam. It isnât our fault you donât have the guts to learn. Your so called hypotheticals, accusatory insinuations ***are ***rude and you could care less. I say you are not acting very Christianlike. If Jesus, your manGod were here right now, what would he say of your following him? What did he say to those who went to him??? Sorry I never knew you, depart from me forever moreâŚgo and worship the one you worship whilst on earthâŚwhat about you worshiping him in vain he claims from the unknown author of Matthew? Nice words from yall with your pride and arrogance when you canât even follow your own God and you expect others to be nice to you. You really think you are worthy of Godâs love?
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Muslims say we do not, you say we do. Who has more authority of knowing? You or they? Do you know Islam? Do you know anything in regard to what is in the last message to mankind except your accusatory statements? This shows arrogance and ignorance of not even wanting to learn about Islam. It isnât our fault you donât have the guts to learn. Your so called hypotheticals, accusatory insinuations ***are ***rude and you could care less. I say you are not acting very Christianlike. If Jesus, your manGod were here right now, what would he say of your following him? What did he say to those who went to him??? Sorry I never knew you, depart from me forever moreâŚgo and worship the one you worship whilst on earthâŚwhat about you worshiping him in vain he claims from the unknown author of Matthew? Nice words from yall with your pride and arrogance when you canât even follow your own God and you expect others to be nice to you. You really think you are worthy of Godâs love?
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inJESUS
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change Muslim/Isam with Christianity/Christians and read it again⌠You who are accusing us of not wanting to learn, you among all are repeating the same baseless claim of âwho authored this or thatâ after we explained a thousand time to you that you cannot project your understanding of revelation on our scriptures and historyâŚhow many time should we repeat the same explanation for a Muslim to grasp it?
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Angelos
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Now you are being both rude and dishonest by trying to pervert Jesusâ statements in the New Testament.
I can also guess what Jesus would say to you on the day of judgment:
âGo away from me, for I do not know you. You preferred the fabricated book of a pagan to my true and life-giving words. You also walked in the footsteps of your messenger by telling lies about my Gospel and perverting my statements. Go with him into eternal fire, you evildoers!â
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Hello InJesus,
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Simply on account of the words being used and put out there!!! So blatant ovbious. Why do you not want to find out who the authors are??? It is your salvation and your belief?? You base your belief on something you donât know who wrote?? God didnât say He wrote it but yet you take unknown authors and claim it is from God??? This is illogical to a normal person to perceive and history can be documented lol Facts are Facts. It isnât for us to grasp your not understanding of your belief when you canât prove it as genuine!.
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Angelos
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You should know, as an ex-Christian (LOL!), that what saves us is not the exact identity of the authors of the Gospels, but Jesus and His truth.
What the early church knew and taught about the authors of the Gospels is definitely more important than what some modern scholars âpresumeâ about the authorship of the Gospels.
You Muslim would question the true identity and faith of Matthew if he had included his name to his written testimony. Your next question would be âThe Gospel was written by Matthew for sure, but Christians cannot prove that Matthew was a true follower of Jesus and one of His disciplesâ.
We know Muslims agree with Christians that Paul wrote many epistles. Although you endorse the author of those epistles as Paul, you claim that what Paul wrote was wrong and misleading because he was not a true apostle/disciple of Christ.
There is no limit to the doubts and absurdities of Islamic ideology. Muslims would absolutely doubt Jesusâ identiity if He appeared to them this day to confirm Paulâs mission and the authorship of the four Evangelists.
In short, Muslims will keep telling lies about the New Testament and objecting to Christian tenets for the sake of objection since their Koran tells a different story about Jesus.
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inJESUS
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Great post AngelosâŚiâd expect anything from people who believe in a deity who is not serious enough to preserve his wordsâŚif they question the deityâs truthfulness ( just before muhammad), why would they trust anybody elseâŚ
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Dempsey1919
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Once again, the Muslim posters are changing the subject!
Please answer our questions!
You silence only proves that you are blindly following the example set by your once pagan leader. He blatanly adopted pagan ceremonies and passed them off as something else, without giving you any reasons for doing them.
Just to remind you:
Please answer our questions!
Stay on topic and defend your faith.
Please answer our questions!
You silence only proves that you are blindly following the example set by your once pagan leader. He blatanly adopted pagan ceremonies and passed them off as something else, without giving you any reasons for doing them.
Just to remind you:
Please answer our questions!
Stay on topic and defend your faith.
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hamba2han
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By kissing his gold medal, this man is shamelessly exhibiting his pagan beliefs in front of a world-wide audience:
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inJESUS
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sure since you believe Allahâs Wisdom is a âpartnerâ to Allah and hence He exists without it for âLo he is self-sufficientâ, then surely Allah will judge according to what he seesâŚso if this young man is kissing a medal, he will go to hell as a pagan exactly as Muhammad who was kissing a stone.
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Dempsey1919
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The medal represents his victory in an athletic endeavor; it has no religious significance whatsoever. Furthermore, this man does not pray towards this medal, nor does he kiss this medal for religious or spiritual reasons. We know why he is kissing his medal. We do not know why Muhammad and his followers kissed the Black Stone.
However, we know that this Stone was once worshipped as an idol. Muslims continue the ceremonies of these pagans when they circle the Kabaa and kiss the Stone. The Black Stone is the eastern corner stone of the Kabaa, and since Muslims face east during prayer, we can logically say that they are praying to this Black Stone.
Your comparisons are false. The Black Stone is a religious object and the medal is not. The Black Stone plays a significant role during pilgrimage rituals, the gold medal does not. The Black Stone was worshipped; nobody ever worshipped an Olympic medal as an idol.
I repeat: Please answer our questions.
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Zlatan
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Muslims cant deny that mohammed was raised a pagan, his tribe were caretakers of the pagan kaaba. Mohammed actually sacrificed a sheep to a pagan diety before his âprophethoodâ
Pg 17 THE BOOK OF IDOLS, THE KITAB AL-ASNAM,BY HISHAM IBN-AL-KALBI
âWe have been told that the Apostle of God once mentioned al-Uzza saying, "I have offered a white sheep to al-'Uzza, while I was a follower of the religion of my people.â
If the black stone was so sacred and special to god why could he not prevent it from being stolen and used as a toilet by islam haters for 40 years ?. even muslim scholars admit this is true.
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Pg 17 THE BOOK OF IDOLS, THE KITAB AL-ASNAM,BY HISHAM IBN-AL-KALBI
âWe have been told that the Apostle of God once mentioned al-Uzza saying, "I have offered a white sheep to al-'Uzza, while I was a follower of the religion of my people.â
If the black stone was so sacred and special to god why could he not prevent it from being stolen and used as a toilet by islam haters for 40 years ?. even muslim scholars admit this is true.
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Zlatan
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for more info
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dolphinlove
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Well Hammy, hope you arent married, everytime you kiss your wife, that means your worshiping her then doesnt it?
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Booklover
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Atta girl, Ellen!Well Hammy, hope you arent married, everytime you kiss your wife, that means your worshiping her then doesnt it?
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dolphinlove
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Thanks!
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hamba2han
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The Olympic Games begins with a temple ceremony and a âpriestessâ lights the flame.
http://www.hindu.com/lf/2004/05/24/images/2004052401360201.jpg
Some Muslims pray facing East, some pray facing West, some pray facing North, some pray facing South and other Muslims pray facing the Kaaâba in various other directions depending on which part of the world where they are living.
The ancient Olympics were steeped in pagan religious practices and so then, going by your own argument that kissing the Black Stone was an ancient pagan practice, does this mean that this man practices paganism?
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R_not
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And when nothing else works such as discussion on your own religion, then bash us. Use the âwe are not Christianâ argument. Or start calling us names such as islamophobes.
It wonât work - they have already used this argument. I find it disgusting since if I used this sort of argument about you - I would say that the muslims are certainly following their âprophetâ! Deceiving us is certainly following their prophet. following a looter, a mass murderer, a marauding gangster, a pedophile, an assasin, a lustful womanizer, and a deceiver is certainly what islam is all about. But, this wonât phase you since you will all find yourselves happy that you still follow him even though he was such a guy.
What you are unhappy about is that we know about islam. And we have read more than just the abrogated surahs.
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so what? No one is worshipping the Olympics or praying to the Greek gods when they go and partake in them. I didnât even watch them on TV because they were being done in a country that has atrocious human rights just like muslim countries do.
Keep in mind that we are able to separate such things from religion. maybe this is your shortcoming if you are unable to do the same. If you are unwilling to understand this is an example of why muslims are unable to tolerate others. We are now seeing this in the Philippines where yet another group of muslims are waging a jihad because they cannot live with others and want their own land. but demand that others tolerate them and they will certainly keep infringing upon others and keep moving in on them! No massive numbers of âmoderatesâ are protesting that their own muslims have slaughtered even more civilians! Not a peep out of them.
But, you worry about the Olympics and this guy practicing paganism. He is just elated that he won and broke so many records. He worked hard and deserves his medals.
So, is all this talk about the Olympics an attempt to deflect you answering the questions that were posed to you by another poster?
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