Do you have Questions for a Southern Baptist?

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lanman87 said:
What I was taught is that children will go to heaven when they die up/until they reach the age of accountability.
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Wouldn’t Baptists be contradicting themselves teaching infants go to heaven, yet lose heaven when they come of age and sin?
 
What does Paul mean when he said in Romans 3:1-2 “What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.”?

MJ
 
USMC_Convert said:
Two questions for you, do SB’s acknowledge the Blessed Mother as the mother of God?

Also do SB’s profess the Nicene Creed?

The Nicene Creed
I believe in one God,
the Father almighty,
maker of heaven and earth,
of all things visible and invisible.

I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ,
the Only Begotten Son of God,
born of the Father before all ages.
God from God, Light from Light,
true God from true God,
begotten, not made, consubstantial with the Father;
through him all things were made.
For us men and for our salvation
he came down from heaven,
and by the Holy Spirit was incarnate of the Virgin Mary,
and became man.
For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate,
he suffered death and was buried,
and rose again on the third day
in accordance with the Scriptures.
He ascended into heaven
and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
He will come again in glory
to judge the living and the dead
and his kingdom will have no end.

I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life,
who proceeds from the Father and the Son,
who with the Father and the Son is adored and glorified,
who has spoken through the prophets.

I believe in one, holy, catholic and apostolic Church.
I confess one Baptism for the forgiveness of sins
and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead
and the life of the world to come. Amen.
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I have never heard the Nicene Creed read in a Baptist Church.
 
boomerang said:
Do Southern Baptist ministers speak often about the Catholic Church in their Sunday services? I’m thinking back to when my mother told me she was invited two or three times by Baptist friends to attend their services, and each time the minister railed about the evils of the Catholic Church. Is this a normal topic for sermons in your church? In the Mass, I have never heard our priests say one word about other Christians. In fact, one time my mother said something about “oh, those Protestants!” and she was immediately rebuked by our priest who told her that the Protestants were our brothers and sister in Christ. How is it in your church?
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I have never recall hearing a message preached about the Catholic church in a Southern Baptist Church.
 
jlhargus said:
Wouldn’t Baptists be contradicting themselves teaching infants go to heaven, yet lose heaven when they come of age and sin?
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Maybe, or maybe it is just the hope that God is merciful to those who can’t yet put their faith in him.
 
Hi Lanman, I have a some questions.
  1. What style of worship is predominant in Southern Baptist churches? Do most churches have contemporary worship with a worship band, as opposed to hymns accompanied by an organ?
  2. What is the connection between Baptists and casseroles? I don’t understand the jokes, not being American.
  3. I have heard that some Baptists don’t play cards. Is that true of your church? If so, why? What is wrong about some friends having a game of bridge with no money involved?
    (I’m guessing it’s because cards are used for gambling).
  4. What are the main differences between Southern Baptists and Independent Fundamental Baptists (except the use of the KJV)?
 
elohimrules said:
What do protestants think about the church before the reformation? Where was the protestant religion? Or do they think it just began at the time of Martin Luther?

Do protestants still view themselves as protesting the Catholic church like Luther? Do they think of the history of the church and what was before Luther?
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I can’t speak about all Protestants. However, Southern Baptist rarely talk about the History of the Church. Southern Baptist focus on sharing our faith, learning about the Bible, learning how to apply the Bible to our life, supporting missions, and fellowship, and eating casseroles. Well, sorta kidding about eating casseroles. 🙂

Our focus is more on why we believe what we believe and we don’t focus much on other’s theology. Luther nor Calvin is a hero to most Southern Baptist laymen. They might to some of the preachers but we don’t have classes on what Luther taught or what Calvin taught. As a matter of fact, I’ve learned more about Lutheranism and Calvinism while trying to learn about Catholicism that I ever have in the Southern Baptist Church
 
Michael85 said:
Hi Lanman, I have a some questions.
  1. What style of worship is predominant in Southern Baptist churches? Do most churches have contemporary worship with a worship band, as opposed to hymns accompanied by an organ?
  2. What is the connection between Baptists and casseroles? I don’t understand the jokes, not being American.
  3. I have heard that some Baptists don’t play cards. Is that true of your church? If so, why? What is wrong about some friends having a game of bridge with no money involved?
    (I’m guessing it’s because cards are used for gambling).
  4. What are the main differences between Southern Baptists and Independent Fundamental Baptists (except the use of the KJV)?
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  1. I would say it depends on how old the church is and the demographic makeup of the church. Older churches, both in age of the church and age of the congregation, tend to be more traditional, In that they have a piano and organ, a choir, and sing hymns.
Most churches, especially the larger ones will have additional instruments and have what is called a blended service. Part traditional hymns with a couple of contemporary (think Chris Tomlin) songs thrown in.

Some churches will be all contemporary with a full band. Some churches offer a traditional service and a contemporary service.
  1. Baptist have church fellowships where every family brings a dish to share with others. There is always a plethora of casseroles and fried chicken. There is nothing like walking into a dining hall of some kind and see 50 casserole dishes cooked by southern grandmas.
  2. Traditionally Baptist are very much against drinking alcohol and gambling. There are no rules per se about playing cards but if you get caught playing the slots in Las Vegas you might get a sermon about the evils of gambling.
  3. Independent Baptist tend to be more legalistic that Southern Baptist churches and have made up more “rules”. For instance, they believe that any rock music is from the Devil (even Christian music with a beat is considered evil), they are also more dogmatic about their beliefs in that if you don’t agree with them completely you are at best a carnal Christian who is bringing shame on the name of Christ and at worst an agent of the Devil.
 
MartinJordan said:
What does Paul mean when he said in Romans 3:1-2 “What advantage, then, is there in being a Jew, or what value is there in circumcision? 2 Much in every way! First of all, the Jews have been entrusted with the very words of God.”?

MJ
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I have know idea
 
jlhargus said:
Wouldn’t it be more reasonable for Baptist to assume the probability is greater there was at least one infant in one of those households, than all were of age of accountability? Especially since children didn’t grow up and leave home? They lived in extended households and didn’t use contraception.
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I would agree that there probably were some young children in the households mentioned. I don’t think there is solid evidence that the babies were included in the baptisms.

The 5 passages about possible “household” baptisms are in Acts 10, Acts 16 (2), Acts 18 and 1 Corinthians 1. 4 out of the 5 passages imply that members of the household were baptized, but do not specify that all of the large extended family household was baptized. We don’t know how much of the family was included in the baptisms. The only passage that states that “all” of the household was baptized was the Philippian jailer in Acts 16:33. However in verse 34, it states that his “whole” household believed in Jesus. So it was either a household with every member capable of believing and being baptized - or “all” and “whole” means all who were able.

Acts 2:12 “But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.”

Do you think children were included in the baptisms in Samaria at this time?
jlhargus said:
Wouldn’t the same reasonable probability apply to those three thousand baptized at Pentecost? Is it reasonable to assume not one was an infant? Wasn’t the promise of the Holy Spirit, made to adults and their children without making distinction of age or accountability?

[Act2:38 Then **Peter said
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unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39 For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the LORD our God shall call.]

Acts 2:40 “With many other words he warned them; and he pleaded with them, “Save yourselves from this corrupt generation.” 41 Those who accepted his message were baptized, and about three thousand were added to their number that day.”

The promise is to the whole world including “your children and all that are afar off,” but those who accepted the message were baptized. In verse 38 Peter says “repent and be baptized.” He does not say repent or be baptized. Belief and repentance always occur before baptism in the Bible. The children and those that are “afar off” can be included in this promise when they become aware of their sinfulness and repent.
 
Do Baptists honestly believe that Jesus was drinking non alcoholic wine?

Thank you.
 
omgriley said:
Thanks lanman87.

It seems to me though that your analogy is flawed. Yes, your son is still your son even if he’s a rotten one. But in this analogy your son is clearly sinning, perhaps gravely sinning. You have a son who, despite disobeying you, is still your son. God has his elect who, despite sinning against Him, are still His elect?? Are you saying that even if your son persisted to the end in such a state, he’d be saved? If that’s the case then what separates a believer from a non-believer, and how do we objectively know which one we are?.

For instance, a so-called Believer can go his entire adult life believing he is assured of his salvation because of his acceptance of Jesus into his life… But then one day turn around and repudiate the whole thing and become an atheist! Would a SB look at such a character and say “Well, I guess he was never really a believer after all.”? Then what does that say about the character’s lifelong assurance of salvation? Was he simply wrong about it the whole time? If so, that indicates that we cannot be assured of our salvation. In fact, it seems to indicate that we can be lured into a false sense of security.

What are your thoughts?
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This is a tough question. As I’ve said I’ve actually talked about this issue from both sides. Either way you go there are tough questions that have to be answered. If sin separates a believer from Christ, how much, 1 sin, 10 sins, 100 sins. How many sins must I commit before God disowns me as a son?

On the other hand, what if I “kill my faith” by choosing to no longer have faith in Christ. Or what if I have faith but, due to neglect let my faith starve to death and die. To the point where I no longer have faith. At what point is the seal of the Holy Spirit Broken?

Remember, I’m thinking like a baptist. We don’t have venial sins and mortal sins. To a baptist sin is sin.

I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that as long as a person has genuine faith there salvation is secure. However, if they choose to kill their faith or let it die then they are peril.

The real answer to this question is to have faith and nurture my faith by prayer, worship, and service. If do those things I don’t have to worry about losing my relationship to God and will retain the seal of the Spirit.
 
Lenten_ashes said:
Do Baptists honestly believe that Jesus was drinking non alcoholic wine?

Thank you.
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Some do and I think it is silly. Actually, when we moved to Alabama we visited a church and the preacher said just that. We never went back to that church. I actually got on the internet and looked up the arguments and ran across all this information about how wine is healthy for you. I started drinking a bottle of wine a week to lower my cholesterol and decrease my chance for heart disease.

That Baptist preacher doesn’t know it be he got me started drinking. :rolleyes:
 
lanman87 said:
This is a tough question. As I’ve said I’ve actually talked about this issue from both sides. Either way you go there are tough questions that have to be answered. If sin separates a believer from Christ, how much, 1 sin, 10 sins, 100 sins. How many sins must I commit before God disowns me as a son?

On the other hand, what if I “kill my faith” by choosing to no longer have faith in Christ. Or what if I have faith but, due to neglect let my faith starve to death and die. To the point where I no longer have faith. At what point is the seal of the Holy Spirit Broken?

Remember, I’m thinking like a baptist. We don’t have venial sins and mortal sins. To a baptist sin is sin.

I’ve pretty much come to the conclusion that as long as a person has genuine faith there salvation is secure. However, if they choose to kill their faith or let it die then they are peril.

The real answer to this question is to have faith and nurture my faith by prayer, worship, and service. If do those things I don’t have to worry about losing my relationship to God and will retain the seal of the Spirit.
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From what other baptists have told me, one can only lose their salvation if they want to lose it.

In regards to a 20 year Christian suddenly becoming a Atheist…it is interesting that this does happen at times and people tend to lose it when it does happen as “christian” so and so really seemed so genuine.🤷

Then again, the scriptures say:
Jeremiah 17:9 New Living Translation
"The human heart is the most deceitful of all things, and desperately wicked. Who really knows how bad it is?
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So I’m glad that people get some sort of solace believing in OSAS, but I think there are many who are deceived, unfortunately, by their own doing.

I love the Catholic position - which is, I am a utter mess…a wicked sinner who needs all the help I can get. I’m being ‘saved’ and still converting until i take my last breath
 
lanman87 said:
Some do and I think it is silly. Actually, when we moved to Alabama we visited a church and the preacher said just that. We never went back to that church. I actually got on the internet and looked up the arguments and ran across all this information about how wine is healthy for you. I started drinking a bottle of wine a week to lower my cholesterol and decrease my chance for heart disease.

That Baptist preacher doesn’t know it be he got me started drinking. :rolleyes:
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Hahaha that preacher would be repenting like crazy for getting you started on wine :rotfl:

Yes the properties like resveratrol are fantastic.

You are definitely a reasonable Baptist.
 
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