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anikins
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How is “Thou shall not kill” a misinterpreted quote when arguing against shooting someone dead with a gun?
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upant
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graciew
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But it sounds there are no controls for unstable persons…
How can one feel safe in a Mass,which is the topic, a packed place also,surrounded by guns?
Or do you have yearly updates and precision tests and training to renew your licence yearly?
And the rest of people living there,not citizens,what? Does it mean you do not care about our lives that we are impeded to own a gun? I do not think so…
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upant
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when you conceal carry no one but the carrier should know.
why would you feel unsafe if you don’t see anything out of the ordinary?
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graciew
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It is a packed place,Upant.
Not everybody can shoot well if you know what I mean…
And yes, one doesn’t t see anything,never seen any while living there. The issue is the carrier ,for me.
Thanks anyway ,Upant ,for the clarification.
Not everybody can shoot well if you know what I mean…
And yes, one doesn’t t see anything,never seen any while living there. The issue is the carrier ,for me.
Thanks anyway ,Upant ,for the clarification.
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Duesenberg
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“Double Tap” is also a brand name.
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njlisa
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That will show you how little I know about guns.
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Duesenberg
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Sure there are. Those adjudicated to be mentally incompetent cannot legally own firearms in the USA.
Do you think current laws keep criminals from bringing firearms into churches (and many other places)?
Concealed firearms carry permit requirements different from state to state.
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
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graciew
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It was your post I quoted.
We may not be citizens but be law abiding,and that we are impeded to own guns,( as residents for years,for example)doesn’t mean any special disregard for life on the American side.
I agreed with FollowChrist that Mass is no place for firearms to begin with .
Criminals do not go by the law.
Carrying a gun concealed in a Church is too much.And a danger for the rest of the people.
Thanks for your explanation about different state requirements.
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Duesenberg
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Okie-dokie.
So what? Until criminals do, who cares?
By their very definition…
So you say.
That’s simply your opinion.
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graciew
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Yes,it is opinion.
The topic of the thread asks for it.
The topic of the thread asks for it.
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Duesenberg
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You certainly didn’t offer the following as an “opinion.” It sounds like you thought you were noting a fact:
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JamalChristophr
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I don’t think anyone ever did comment on my “air marshall” type strategy. :cowboy_hat_face:
On another note, I would be curious to know if anything has happened as far as having means of self-defense in the Chaldean Catholic Churches. There was a substantial amount of carnage for a fair amount of time there, but perhaps the attacks have stopped. But for awhile, there was a lot of blood shed in our Catholic Churches in Iraq.
On another note, I would be curious to know if anything has happened as far as having means of self-defense in the Chaldean Catholic Churches. There was a substantial amount of carnage for a fair amount of time there, but perhaps the attacks have stopped. But for awhile, there was a lot of blood shed in our Catholic Churches in Iraq.
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SuperLuigi
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Most people who carry do not have obsessive fear.
Incorrect. It would be safer than what happened in Texas.
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graciew
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That is a problem for me.
I try and write briefly and to the point. I am sorry.
I am used to speaking freely among people who know me,as thinking aloud ,and my body language accompanies.
I 've got to learn …Sorry ,Duesenberg…
I try and write briefly and to the point. I am sorry.
I am used to speaking freely among people who know me,as thinking aloud ,and my body language accompanies.
I 've got to learn …Sorry ,Duesenberg…
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Duesenberg
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I did not say that. I was quoting someone.
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Eric_Hyom
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On the other hand, we tend to overlook the tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi who have been killed, due to looking for invisible WMDs.
How many of these Iraqi dead or wounded had anything to do with WMDs?
If you are searching for true justice, then we should also consider all the innocent Muslims who have suffered. I believe they have suffered more than the Christians have in Iraq.
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Eric_Hyom
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As I said in my post above which seems to have been overlooked, there are alternatives to guns, if we are truly seeking long term peaceful solutions.Duesenberg:
I don’t know how many times I have stood in the middle of fights in the last ten years. A couple of weeks ago there were three separate drunken fights with blood, this often happens after three am when the pubs close.
I have had a knife held up to my throat, and I have taken two knives from people. This is purely down to faith in God, I am an old man of 68, and often I am with ladies in their seventies. We don’t do self defence, and I am aware that we are the weakest people on the street.
We are part of the Street Pastor ministry. This came about when the friend of a church minister was shot and killed by a gang of youths in Jamaica. After the funeral, the minister and a few parishioners prayed, and they went out to look for these gangs of kids. I wonder how you reason with gun carrying kids on drugs who are living in poverty, but somehow these church goers started to make a difference.
Les Isaacs brought this ministry to the UK in 2003, and I believe there are now about 15,000 volunteers around the UK, and it is going world wide.
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