It’s not “happening.” There have been a few isolated incidents over the last couple of decades. We are not unsafe in church. We do not have to fear for our lives.
Right. And I consider that a good thing. The less lead, the less likely for collateral damage. In other words, there is nothing friendly about friendly fire.
just a higher body count for the perp
Why are you rejecting the evidence and instead running with bumper sticker slogans?
That is a narrow criteria. It has not yet happened. New York had one event a few years ago with nine people hit, but no one died. I think the idea remains sound.pnewton:
Show me one time when someone has been killed by friendly fire in the event of an active mass-shooter.
No, the same laws apply to the police as apply to everyone else. If a police officer is attempting to rape someone, you can (and should) pull a gun on them. If the police officer pulls a gun to brutalize someone, the officer is legally in the wrong. If he kills someone in the process of brutalizing them, he is in the wrong, especially if he did so because they were trying to defend themselves.
I had to re-post this. You sure added a lot of modifiers with no real world practicality. I guess everyone can run this in their head and see if it rings true, or if there really is such a reality as “the color of law.”
The only ‘modifier’ is that the police rarely do things that would justify legitimate self defense.
In the same circumstances that a police officer might encounter, yes you actually can. If a police officer is attempting to arrest someone in a vehicle, they are outside their own car. The vechicle that the attacker is driving is itself a weapon. Youcannot know (nor the police officer), that the attack is stopped. What you DO know is that the attacker now has a different weapon, one that they might turn against you. A defender CAN use their firearm to stop that attack until such a point that the defender is reasonably certain that the attack has ceased, which is generally long after the attacker has moved out of range.
If one is going to own a gun, it is important to learn how to use it properly, even if the use is for home use. On this topic, that of carrying a gun to Mass, I would say if one is going to do this, it is also critical that one go beyond basic firearm operations. This class sounds like a good idea. Also, some for of continuing education is important. If one is going to act like a police officer, as a citizen, then taking on the same training should be part of that. Otherwise, you may find yourself on the wrong side of a wrongful death or injury suit, carrying a gun, using it, but lacking the discipline to undertake what a jury decides is reasonable training.
Gee, I was 100% agreeing with you until that last sarcastic comment. This is a common myth, that gun owners who carry are fulfilling some fantasy of being a cop. There may be a few who do, but I assure you most do not.