Do you/would you carry a concealed firearm to Mass?

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I am fully aware of Australia’s involvement in WW2 and I don’t see how that relates to what I was talking about at all.
 
I mean an ‘Assault Rifle’
By definition an “assault rifle” is a select-fire machine gun. The name comes from the German StG 44 – short for Sturmgewehr 44 or “assault rifle 44.”

Machine guns have been under very tight federal control in the US since 1934. Control that was further tightened in 1986.
 
What does Australia have to fear? An invasion from China?
You never know. China is unfortunately still a communist country.
but if it did happen, it wouldn’t stand a chance either way.
Don’t know, but it certainly wont stand a chance with a small sized military and unarmed population without someone like the USA at our back.

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You can carry one in my state, but you may not be able to carry it in many public places.

There are signs posted where you cannot carry your gun in/have it with you.

In fact, the more that I think about it, the more that I am seeing this. 🤔
 
Malarkey. If the US Gov’t went totally rogue there would be massive division and defection – particularly in the military. Even if it total nutso mode, it could hardly sustain much of a fight without troops and it’s not about to start popping nukes in the Midwest. On the other side of the coin would be a modestly armed militia, but also the largest one in the history of the world – over 100M. If you don’t think that would be a deterrent, you’re not a student of history.

Right now as I type, Catalonia is under siege by Spain. I’m sure Spain will once again subsume what was a sovereign nation until 1931. You can bet things would be far different if Catalonia was trained and armed along the lines of say Switzerland…
Members of militaries putting more store by the values of their country’s constitution than adherence to the state however it is working de facto ? That must explain the well-known widespread defection from the Wehrmacht when told they had to swear a new oath to the Führer rather than to Germany and its constitution

Obviously my point is not to compare the US Army to Nazis (I wouldn’t dream of it and I’m not doing that so don’t imply it, just to flag in advance) - but the point is that along with immense and rightful patriotism, soldiers of any nation are also accustomed to following orders. And in-the-moment it can be very hard to distinguish between a lawful order to, say, suppress a rebellion, and an unlawful order to shoot at legitimate protestors which any soldier if you asked him or her would tell you they would have no intention of following. But if you think that such blurred lines can’t happen in the United States then to pick one example from the air, consider what happened at Kent State University in 1970, and transfer a peaceful protest on one campus to an altogether more terrifying nationwide protest movement, and think about what might happen.

Meanwhile Catalonia isn’t under seige by Spain (ill-used, yes; beseiged, no). And if Texas wished to seceed from the Union on the basis of a questionable internal poll, on whose side would you be? If Catalonia was as heavily armed as Switzerland (or Texas), then yes things would be very different. A lot of people already would have been killed, for a start. You saying you want that?
 
Difficult though the Catalonia situation is and however badly served by their politicians the people of Spain and Catalonia are, it is (so far) a testament to common sense that it has not broken out into civil war. If half the population was armed with assault weapons it doubtless would have.

Guns are not in themselves evil but their mass availability sure make evil much easier and much more bloody.
 
A few years ago, I attended a Right to Life Mass.

The celebrant was the Cardinal Archbishop.

Across the street were “pro-choice” activists who spend a lot of time banging on drums.

Thousands of pro-life people showed up for the Mass.

The ushers directed me left and right and up and back, and at one point I brushed against a very beefy gentleman who I assumed was a policeman wearing plain clothes and he was clearly in possession of a concealed carry pistol.
 
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Difficult though the Catalonia situation is and however badly served by their politicians the people of Spain and Catalonia are, it is (so far) a testament to common sense that it has not broken out into civil war.
Not really, no. If Catalonia was as prepared as Switzerland, I suspect they would have regained their independence without firing a single shot. Deterrence means a lot.
 
Tricky for the majority who don’t want independence ! Lots of guns would not solve the problem.
 
I have not felt the need to carry at Mass. But my opinion about that is moving towards carrying.

I see no problem with it. I always carry a pocket knife that makes a decent defense weapon. Did Christians in the past not carry their knives or swords into church?
The other, a Sig P938 was the carry one, but having mechanical issues with it:/ I guess it’s time to figure out how to conceal a full-frame 6" barrel Glock… At least it gives 17+1 instead of 7+1.
What is happening with your Sig? I have one and haven’t had problems with it. But it doesn’t have a lot of rounds through it yet. If I recall there was some problem with the earlier models. I can’t remember what that was though.
 
That’s an interesting idea, and one consistent with Catholic thinking. The original question was would YOU carry a concealed firearm…

I too have no problem with a professional being present at the door. Perhaps the greeters out in front of the church should be trained and carry. Maybe some of the more vocal members of the “guns and bullets” club could volunteer for that duty.

We occasionally have “Church building fund” drives. These are for repsirs, upgrades, renewals etc. Mayhaps one would be for protection, training and associated hardware. I’d fund them, particularly if some church members would “man the posts” to keep us more clunky members safer.

That way, the church is safe, these members can feel they have positively contributed to the community, and it’s covered from a lawfully appointed prospective,

Blessings,
Stephie
 
That already considers those features.

Let’s mandate auto sense and colision avoidance in all vehicles, no?
 
Only in the US - to the rest of the civilised world this very conversation sounds like insanity. Sadly it is obvious that no amount of carnage will change people’s views so the personal arms race can only continue and get ever worse. Very sad for the thousands of innocent bystanders who will die.
The car and truck massacres sound like insanity too. Those were only in Europe before they came to the US last week.

And really the rest of the world isn’t true. A lot of the world is extremely violent. You really only mean Europe, Australia, and Canada.
 
I’d vote for trained ushers. If a situation broke out, I wouldn’t want the guy in-front of me (which puts me between him and the shooter) trying to play hero with me in the line of fire.

Multiplied by the number of parishioners who’d be interested in actually carrying.

Leave the swords at the door, boys. We’re entering a holy place.
 
With all the incidents of late, i beginning to believe The Lord is trying to tell us something. Im seriously reconsidering the whole issue
 
“Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth.”

I would rather that God see me as meek, as trusting, as believing in His ability to protect me in His house and find myself the victim of an evil person than carry a weapon into that house and tell God I don’t feel safe in His home.

Many of our saints have died, been martyred, because they walked into potentially dangerous situations to give worship to God. I’m not afraid to do the same.
 
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