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JSRG
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Did you consider Brian Carroll? (American Solidarity Party)
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Ridgerunner
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Fraud has been proved.
He has a right to challenge an election, just like Gore did.
Biden promises a “dark winter” and I’m sure he’ll deliver on that promise if he wins.
For voter fraud:
We probably won’t know the full extent of it until after the election. Mail in voting is an absolute invitation for “political bosses” to control how people vote. All they have to do is send a “helper” to help people fill out their ballots.
Secret balloting was made universal in the U.S. in the 19th Century because mail-in voting became so full of fraud. But those who control city machines liked it then and will undoubtedly like it now.
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godisgood77
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Point of clarification, are you claiming that there is fraud or abnormal widespread fraud? The President is claiming ‘fraud like you’ve never seen’ … looking forward to your answer and would be glad to view any evidence of widespread voter fraud.
Sorry, I must have missed the part where Gore in the month’s leading up to the election made unsubstantiated claims about widespread voter fraud and refused to say that he would concede if he lost. Those claims undermine the integrity of the election.
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Ridgerunner
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You’re changing the subject. Candidates have the right to challenge elections. Gore challenged the election of Bush, and Trump has the right to challenge this one.
No. Gore didn’t refuse to say he would concede if he lost. He lost, conceded, then took it back and challenged the Florida results. Eventually, the Supreme Court put an end to it by unanimous vote.
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godisgood77
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Of course he has the right to challenge the outcome of the election. One major difference that you are looking past… Gore challenged on election night when the votes had been counted and it was determined too close to call. Trump is de facto challenging the outcome before it has even come to pass which is clearly dangerous. Enough said on that part IMO
What about providing evidence of widespread voter fraud in this election due to mail in ballots that some are putting forward?
I’ve looked and can’t find any.
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BT3241
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These are strange times - people are completely polarized their very neighbor are their enemy because they have different ideas - its a dangerous path. Mean well in the middle east countries are lining up for peace accords with Israel and many Christians are oblivious to it a clear warning in the bible. Dishonesty is the highest I have ever seen I agree the world is sliding down a bad path right now that could lead to a lot of people dying again.
JoeFreedom
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Thanks for supplying this, and this is only the proven voter fraud. There are dozens of cases in the last year which show ballots showing up for dogs, ballots being harvested and filled out by the harverster, ballot applications being dumped in trash cans, and the list goes on.
There should be a constitutional amendment that requires one to have a valid IDENTIFICATION (you cannot and should not vote if you are NOT a citizen of the US), to vote IN PERSON, and ON ELECTION DAY, and on PAPER (not electronic – to easy to manipulate) and VERIFIED against a signature from your voter registration, and once you vote, you get your finger DIPPED IN INK so you cannot vote again.
This is the only way elections will every be fair.
There should be a constitutional amendment that requires one to have a valid IDENTIFICATION (you cannot and should not vote if you are NOT a citizen of the US), to vote IN PERSON, and ON ELECTION DAY, and on PAPER (not electronic – to easy to manipulate) and VERIFIED against a signature from your voter registration, and once you vote, you get your finger DIPPED IN INK so you cannot vote again.
This is the only way elections will every be fair.
JoeFreedom
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Oh, maybe you didn’t realize Google is censoring any information it feels it doesn’t want you to know. Do you need me to provide you evidence of Google, Twitter, YouTube and Facebook censoring information too?
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TheLittleLady
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http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/c...on_cfaith_doc_20000626_message-fatima_en.html
The word “America” does not appear in the messages of Fatima.
Every election I have known since I was a child has been called “the most important of our lifetime”.
I do think some people have lost their civility, I am thrilled with our US Bishops “Civilize It” movement.
Satan? I think we often give Satan credit for what is basic human pride.
The word “America” does not appear in the messages of Fatima.
Every election I have known since I was a child has been called “the most important of our lifetime”.
I do think some people have lost their civility, I am thrilled with our US Bishops “Civilize It” movement.
Satan? I think we often give Satan credit for what is basic human pride.
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godisgood77
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No, just evidence of widespread voter fraud in this election due to mail in ballots… some have said that it is easy to find… I haven’t been able to find any.
Happy to review your sources? Conjecture isn’t helpful
JoeFreedom
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I’m tired of doing your work. Many people here can find them and we supply them to you. But you can’t find them. I don’t have time to be your admin.
If you watched anything besides MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and/or listened to or read from anything besides NPR, HuffPo, Comedy Central, the WaPo, etc., you just might find this information on your own…
If you watched anything besides MSNBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, and/or listened to or read from anything besides NPR, HuffPo, Comedy Central, the WaPo, etc., you just might find this information on your own…
JoeFreedom
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I can make a reasonable assumption. He (or she) cannot seem to find the evidence, but it is there. And it will not be found on those sites. I’m making a logical conclusion and a reasonable assumption. It is not nasty at all.
I do not know why I get sudden urges to get into these circular discussions with people here I know will not be swayed by whatever is presented, and all it does it waste my time, because I am not an admin who sits around all day and collects the evidence so I can present “on demand when requested” because you DEMAND proof. It’s there. I read and I listen and I watch daily, but I’m not cataloging it for everyone’s convenience. Seriously, the information is there, but why would you expect to find an article of Google and YouTube suppressing information on Google and YouTube?
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I do not know why I get sudden urges to get into these circular discussions with people here I know will not be swayed by whatever is presented, and all it does it waste my time, because I am not an admin who sits around all day and collects the evidence so I can present “on demand when requested” because you DEMAND proof. It’s there. I read and I listen and I watch daily, but I’m not cataloging it for everyone’s convenience. Seriously, the information is there, but why would you expect to find an article of Google and YouTube suppressing information on Google and YouTube?
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Ridgerunner
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Gore conceded after the votes were counted. Then he changed his mind and called Bush and told him he was taking it back and challenged the result in Florida. Then everybody was put through the recounts, the “hanging chads” and all of that. Trump is merely saying he has a right to challenge, which he does. I do realize Democrats pretend he won’t leave office willingly, but he has said he would, and there’s no reason to think he wouldn’t.
I provided you with evidence of voter fraud. You just don’t want to admit it’s real. I’m sure you will never find anything that will cause you to admit mail in ballots are an invitation to fraud…
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umamibella
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We always have the choice of early voting by mail or turning up (name removed by moderator)erson, except during Covid lockdown.
I wrote on my vote that I would not support any of the candidates due to anti catholic reasons.
I did not tick the boxes from 1 to 10 or whatever number of candidates there are, in order of preference. If I wanted I could vote from my best to worst preference.
We can write or do whatever we want with the ballot, it cannot be traced as ballots are private and dont have our name on them. If mailing a ballot, the outer envelope has your name, so that gets ticked off as person has voted when the election office receives the ballot. The inner envelope containing the ballot then goes off to the counting office before being opened.
Legally we have to turn up and have our name ticked off if we dont want to pay fines etc. What we do in the voting booth is the only for us to know.
Voting here is a really private affair, we dont really discuss who we are voting for with others, that is considered poor form and attempting to sway or coerce their vote. Threads on CAF with vote for this or that politician agenda posting (you can probably guess which ones) would be shut down fast here.
Candidates do have to discuss policy. They usually make election promises they break, and we vote for the primeminster we want, or the person we want, not the party.
Our liberal party is very different to your idea of liberal.
Policy I dont agree with includes ssm, abortion, euthanasia, and certain environmental issues. We have saline soil and states that burn if they even look at a flame.,
What does registering with a certain political party mean in America?
Are your votes private or public?
( this post is not off - topic as it discusses moral acceptability of political candidates and what Australians do if they dont want to vote for a candidate)
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enoch1
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i think our voting should be more pointed to the parties. i dont like either one of their personalities, but thats what everyone sees . the leftist democrats are following karl marxist thinking. socialist ideas sound good, but dont work. president trump has done a lot of good for our nation ,however the leftist news rarely carries this.
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FiveLinden
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I’m neither a theist nor an American but lack of personal involvement has never stopped me having an interest in things! 
So I get why someone who sees abortion laws as the main thing would tend to support Trump. He’s your guy.
But his approach to politics has led to a situation in which not only could he lose, but the Senate and the House could be lost to Republicans too. And many local legislatures could be affected too, along with governors. And the extreme approach has led to Democrat’s with even stronger positions against your position gaining important roles (like candidate for VP).
So support for Trump may end up producing a worse result for the pro-life campaign than would have resulted from support for a more, shall we say, balanced candidate.
When you vote you do so to influence long-term and somewhat unclear trends, especially in a democratic system where power is spread over so many decision-making bodies including an unelected Supreme Court bound to an ancient constitution.
That’s why I have always been surprised at the ‘vote for candidates that support Catholic positions’ approach. A better approach would be ‘pick a party and be active for years, influencing the trends’.
Anyway, what do I know? Those of us in the rest of the world are mainly just bewildered.
So I get why someone who sees abortion laws as the main thing would tend to support Trump. He’s your guy.
But his approach to politics has led to a situation in which not only could he lose, but the Senate and the House could be lost to Republicans too. And many local legislatures could be affected too, along with governors. And the extreme approach has led to Democrat’s with even stronger positions against your position gaining important roles (like candidate for VP).
So support for Trump may end up producing a worse result for the pro-life campaign than would have resulted from support for a more, shall we say, balanced candidate.
When you vote you do so to influence long-term and somewhat unclear trends, especially in a democratic system where power is spread over so many decision-making bodies including an unelected Supreme Court bound to an ancient constitution.
That’s why I have always been surprised at the ‘vote for candidates that support Catholic positions’ approach. A better approach would be ‘pick a party and be active for years, influencing the trends’.
Anyway, what do I know? Those of us in the rest of the world are mainly just bewildered.
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godisgood77
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Thank-you …
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enoch1
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the house and senate LOST to the republicans ???
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