Does God call people to be separate from Catholic Eucharist

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Wannano said:
You know Guano, I want to tell you something…I’m just saying, not that I am there yet…but if I ever feel led to be Catholic, I’d like to be one like you.
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You honor me in saying so, Wannano, but I must confess, I have these attitudes as the result of my sojourn among my separated brethren as much as anything. I got involved with a Protestant Campus ministry in college, and was affiliates with a number of ecclesial communities for the next 20+ years. They taught me how to pray, and read scripture, and eventually persuaded me to enter seminary.

Without these spiritually formative experiences, I could not possibly have a broader view of faith, and a more balanced perspective of the shortcomings of Catholics over the course of history.

If we work to understand one another as you and I have done, it will heal the divisions in the Body, whether people become visible members of the CC or not.
mcq72 said:
The human however must still be spiritual.
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Fortunately this is not true. Just a God used Cyrus to accomplish His purposes, He has even used corrupted Popes, Cardinals, Bishops and others who were living in the flesh. The divine elements of the Church are more powerful than all these things.
mcq72 said:
The prototype is that there at least will always be a remnant that represents that infallible guidance and graced compliance.
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Yes, and this might be the case if Jesus had not promised that He would lead the Church into “all Truth”.

There is also a prototype for those who opposed the authority appointed by God.

2 Timothy 3:8 As Jannes and Jambres opposed Moses, so these men also oppose the truth, men of corrupt mind and counterfeit faith;

This verse, by the way, is another support for Sacred Tradition. The Scriptures do not give the names of those who opposed Moses.

The “seat of Moses” (also part of Sacred Tradition) was transferred by Jesus to the Apostles. It was to them that He made the promise never to leave them, and to guide His fledgling Church.

Jesus did not require a rebellion 1500 years after the fact to get the church back on the rails.
 
Never try to be something like someone else, Wannano. Let the Holy Spirit lead you as He sees fit.
 
lilypadrees said:
Never try to be something like someone else, Wannano. Let the Holy Spirit lead you as He sees fit.
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Thats actually very good advice. But it was a kind gesture too.

@guanophore has both a decent education and a loving in his fellowship. In fact, it comes across as fellowship rather than debating, which goes along way in my eyes!
 
And yet, any priest worth his salt, as the saying goes, would tell him the same thing I did.
 
For somebody who has all this training, everything that i said to you weither implied or straight would have made sense to you
 
lilypadrees said:
Never try to be something like someone else, Wannano. Let the Holy Spirit lead you as He sees fit.
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I agree with you and feel I should perhaps clarify just what I said. I never actually said or meant I would like to be like Guano, I said that if I ever felt led to become Catholic I would like to be one like him. Not necessarily be like Guano himself but the kind of Catholic he appears to be. To me, he is more honest, sincere and open minded than many I have met. 😊
 
Yes, your meaning was clear to me. But we are to look to Jesus in all things not man lest we be accused of idolizing the person we view as a role model.
 
Yes, I have worked with people all my life and realize that eventually anyone human being we admire has the ability to disappoint us or let us down.
 
lilypadrees said:
Never try to be something like someone else, Wannano. Let the Holy Spirit lead you as He sees fit.
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Wouldn’t it be marvellous if we were all so confident in our good example that we could say with Paul:

1 Corinthians 11:1 Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.

Philippians 3:17 Brethren, join in imitating me, and mark those who so live as you have an example in us.
 
feed_me said:
For somebody who has all this training, everything that i said to you weither implied or straight would have made sense to you
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Thank you feed_me, it does make sense to me. My concern is that it does not make sense to you!
lilypadrees said:
But we are to look to Jesus in all things not man lest we be accused of idolizing the person we view as a role model.
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We certainly would not want to be found imitating the faith or example of anyone! 😉

Hebrews 13:7 Remember your leaders, those who spoke to you the word of God; consider the outcome of their life, and imitate their faith.

Hebrews 6:12 so that you may not be sluggish, but imitators of those who through faith and patience inherit the promises.

2 Thessalonians 3:9
It was not because we do not have that right, but to give you in ourselves an example to imitate.

1 Thessalonians 1:6
And you became imitators of us and of the Lord, for you received the word in much affliction, with the joy of the Holy Spirit,

1 Corinthians 4:16 I urge you, then, be imitators of me.

Perhaps it is not possible to follow the example of another, and still follow Christ? Perhaps this is one of those Catholic things that is either/or, rather than both/and?

Perhaps Paul gave poor instructions, as he did not realizing telling others to imitate him meant they would end up idolizing him!
 
mcq72 said:
There is no such gifting as “infalibility” except as claimed by Catholic tradition/decree.
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I understand that you and your faith community have not received this gifting, but it remains with the Church founded by Christ. Fortunately, though you are separated from it, you are still able to reap the benefits, especially in the form of Scripture.

I also understand your need to deny the existence of it. If you accepted it, you would then be obligated to return to the Catholic Church, and that is something you simply could not tolerate!
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guanophore said:
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feed_me:
For somebody who has all this training, everything that i said to you weither implied or straight would have made sense to you
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Thank you feed_me, it does make sense to me. My concern is that it does not make sense to you!
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O but it does make sense to me, a whole lot more then I thought it did. I do the work I get the reward.
“Work” as in Matthew 7: 7
 
feed_me said:
O but it does make sense to me, a whole lot more then I thought it did. I do the work I get the reward.
“Work” as in Matthew 7: 7
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That’s ok, feed_me. God will reward you even if you are unable to explain why you believe as you do.
 
To the op yes, there are wheat surrounded by weeds in both sides of the whole church, everybody is where they need to be for a reason.
 
It means that there are both good people and evil people in both sides of the whole church, whole church meaning protostant and catholic, my fault for not explaining it the first time.
 
Does this address the question though?

Does God call us to be in a separate Communion?
 
I think it answers part of a question, reason being is there are people that dont believe in what Catholics believe or grew up in protostant denominations, and along there Journey God uses them to save others from damnation and that goes for the Catholic side too.
 
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