Does God want everyone to be Catholic?

[steve_b]

yes, He established the Church…

Yes, In the first century on Peter and the apostles.

• Acts 9:31 So the church throughout allκκλησία καθ’ λης ς καθ’kataὅληςholos ] Judea and Galilee and Sama’ria…" iow the Church is the Kataholos Church = Catholic Church The English word catholic is a transliteration of the Greek katholikos which is a compound word from kata, which means according to, and holos, which means whole.
• St IgnatiusBp of Antioch, ~69 a.d. - ~107 a.d., ordained by apostles, disciple of St John the apostle, called the Church the Catholic Church of which schismatics won’t be going to heaven
• St Polycarp, Bp Smyrna, disciple of St John called the Church the “Catholic Church”
• Irenaeus ~180 a.d. wrote “Against Heresies” called the Church the “Catholic Church” Bk 1 Ch 10 v 3], and also Irenaeus who was taught by Polycarp, teaches all must agree with Rome [Bk 3, Ch 3, v 2-3]
• Cyprian~250 a.d.
• The Nicene Creed, 325 a.d., it’s a matter of faith to believe in the “One Holy Catholic Apostolic Church”
• Augustine ~395 There are many other things that most justly keep me in her * bosom. . . . The succession of priests keeps me, beginning from the very seat of the Apostle Peter, to whom the Lord, after His resurrection, gave it in charge to feed His sheep, down to the present episcopate. And so, lastly, does the name itself of Catholic, which, not without reason, amid so many heresies, the Church has thus retained; so that, though all heretics wish to be called Catholics, yet when a stranger asks where the Catholic Church meets, no heretic will venture to point to his own chapel or house.[Against the Epistle of Manichaeus Called Fundamental (http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/1405.htm)
• etc etc etc

The same Church Pope Francis is over today, 266th successor to St Peter.*

 

[trevor1055]

And the answer is…?

Yes. That is why He gave us the Church. It is also the only explanation of how I could go from “the pope is the anti-Christ and the Roman church is the whore of Babylon” to coming home to the Truth of Christ as deposited in His one, holy, catholic, apostolic Church.

Just sayin’.

 

[JamesCaruso]

I believe God wants us as one.

How, I do not know. I know it begins with love. We all know this. We do not all act upon this.

If He is asking me to be Catholic, for example, I cannot tell anymore. If He is, middle management is bucking it. I am fighting this tooth and nail, mind you. I am also fighting tooth and nail the disappointment and frustration that no one, no one, in person, is suggesting anything to overcome the issues. I am fending for myself and it’s not suppose to work that way.I do not understand, for the life of me, I do not.
I feel strongly that the CEO is a tad disappointed, too.
Think about it.
He says, “I love you. Come follow.”
I say, “Yes, please!”
Middle management says, “Whoa, now wait a minute…and a year…”
He says, “What really is the hold up? And since when do you supecede ME?”

This whole thing is giving me doubt now. So if God want us all to be Catholic, which could be fine by me, that would then rule me out, wouldn’t it?

Forgive me, but I was giving a lot of thought earlier. Oddly, just before going to Church, where I still go despite everything.

I don’t know your situation. My Aunt was married to a divorced man for many years and has 7 children by him. She could not receive Holy Communion for all those years, but it didn’t stop her from attending Mass every Sunday. She was still a Catholic, and a very devout one, but not in full communion with the Church. Eventually he died and she was freed from this burden-- God understood her situation and I have no doubt he was with her the entire way. There must be rules. But, as I said, I have no idea what your situation is. I just know that God is with you; so don’t get anxious, Keep on trying to discern and do His Will. He honors that. What were Padre Pio’s famous words? “Pray, hope and don’t worry.”

 

[Church_Militant]

Does God want everyone to be Catholic?

I can eliminate most every religion, but not quite all, with a single stone, which should be clearly apparent to anyone who is Catholic, John 6:53. bible.cc/john/6-53.htm The all encompassing stone, of course, is the guaranteed true and complete message of God.

Keep in mind 1st Timothy 2:4 which says.“Who will have all men to be saved, and to come to the knowledge of the truth.”

If we believe that the Catholic faith contains the fullness of truth, then the only logical conclusion is that God actually does want everyone to be Catholic. This is true for all faith communities. If they really believe that their community contains the fullness of the truth then whatever they are, they have to believe that it is God’s will for everyone to share that same truth because the New Testament plainly tells us that that knowledge of the truth is tied to our salvation. Anyone who cannot say that needs to do some serious praying and soul searching to decide what to do because we all have that responsibility for our own souls.

I believe God wants us as one.

How, I do not know. I know it begins with love. We all know this. We do not all act upon this.

If He is asking me to be Catholic, for example, I cannot tell anymore. If He is, middle management is bucking it. I am fighting this tooth and nail, mind you. I am also fighting tooth and nail the disappointment and frustration that no one, no one, in person, is suggesting anything to overcome the issues. I am fending for myself and it’s not suppose to work that way.I do not understand, for the life of me, I do not.
I feel strongly that the CEO is a tad disappointed, too.
Think about it.
He says, “I love you. Come follow.”
I say, “Yes, please!”
Middle management says, “Whoa, now wait a minute…and a year…”
He says, “What really is the hold up? And since when do you supecede ME?”

This whole thing is giving me doubt now. So if God want us all to be Catholic, which could be fine by me, that would then rule me out, wouldn’t it?

Forgive me, but I was giving a lot of thought earlier. Oddly, just before going to Church, where I still go despite everything.

You need to realize that the Catholic Church obeys the great commission of Our blessed Lord Jesus Christ in which He very specifically tells us. “19] Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20] teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age.”

We have a mandate to teach you to obey Him in all things and that is one very good reason that RCIA is so long and so very correct. Most people do not have time to spend every night for months in religious instruction. They have jobs, families, and other obligations that require they allot x amount of time to their initial instruction and discernment to see if they should join the Catholic Church. You can greatly assist this process even now by acquiring a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and/or the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and begin diligently studying them right alongside a good Catholic Bible. You also need to begin attending Mass regularly and get to know your parish priest(s) and insure that you are all set to begin RCIA when it begins again.

There is a great many excellent Catholic resources that would serve you well in the meantime, like Dr. Edward Sri’s excellent book A Biblical Walk Through the Mass which will teach you the Mass and at the same time show you both the Biblical roots of it as well as a working knowledge of what is going on and why .

 

[Darryl_B]

I believe John is quite right, when he says that if we really believe that the Catholic faith is the fullness of truth, then it’s only logical that we would believe that God wants everyone to be catholic and that we need to be about Our Father’s business of sharing our most holy faith with everyone we know.

I fully agree with the logic that both you and your friend and brother John present. It is something that I have had to wrestle with for years and years. I had never stepped inside a Catholic church in all the more than 40 years of my life. And for the first time in my life I felt peace to my perplexing problem. I truly felt that I had come home to the church I should have been with all my life and I felt a link to the Apostles and Jesus Christ which I had never experienced. It is my desire that all protestants wrestling against the Catholic church will return home.

 

[Brendan_64]

I accuse no one. I merely quoted the Catechism. 1791

You did not merely quote the Catechism, you posted your interpretation of it .

This is what you wrote, and is what I was replying to:

“As we know
ignorance isn’t always innocent as fault isn’t always innocent. Especially when one takes little effort to find the truth.
May ≠ will, May ≠ probably, May might only be remote.”

If you merely quoted the Catechism, then whereabouts in the Catechism does the above statement appear?

A careful rewording of the Catechism, with omissions and additions to suit your interpretation, is **NOT **merely quoting the Catechism.

 

[cheezey]

What were Padre Pio’s famous words? “Pray, hope and don’t worry.”

I like this. Been doing this for years. Before knowing Padre Pio.What’s interesting is that this was my mantra for years within my faith.
And then I expressed, not the desire, but the need for RCIA.
Middle management fought and fought to keep me out til the Bishop’s office stepped in.
Now, I am in and still, they are unwelcoming. Sometimes, downright nasty.
Let me stress that my faith is unaffected by this. My ability to express it formally in an organized way, is. I now feel strongly that it is not meant to be.
I do no know what to do with that. It really seems that they are overruling God. More so than I am for being betwixt and between…

 

[steve_b]

steve b
I accuse no one. I merely quoted the Catechism. 1791

Brendan
You did not merely quote the Catechism, you posted your interpretation of it .

This is what you wrote, and is what I was replying to:

“As we know
ignorance isn’t always innocent as fault isn’t always innocent. Especially when one takes little effort to find the truth.
May ≠ will, May ≠ probably, May might only be remote.”

If you merely quoted the Catechism, then whereabouts in the Catechism does the above statement appear?

A careful rewording of the Catechism, with omissions and additions to suit your interpretation, is **NOT **merely quoting the Catechism.

1791 This ignorance can often be imputed to personal responsibility. This is the case when a man “takes little trouble to find out what is true and good, or when conscience is by degrees almost blinded through the habit of committing sin.” In such cases, the person is culpable for the evil he commits.

What I wrote

“As we know ignorance isn’t always innocent as fault isn’t always innocent. Especially when one takes little effort to find the truth.”

That’s a pretty close paraphrase. As far as the remainder of what I said “May ≠ will, May ≠ probably, May might only be remote” that’s an accurate understanding of the word “may”

For example

It “may” rain tomorrow, doesn’t mean it will, nor does it mean probably. It just means it might rain

 

[Brendan_64]

What I wrote

As we know ignorance isn’t always innocent as fault isn’t always innocent. Especially when one takes little effort to find the truth.

That’s a pretty close paraphrase.

It’s still not a quote, as its written in your own words. And you have written it as your interpretation. I would say that what you have written isn’t an particularly unbiased paraphrase either.

Either way, what you wrote was not a quote from the Catechism as you claimed it to be.

 

[steve_b]

It’s still not a quote, as its written in your own words. And you have written it as your interpretation. I would say that what you have written isn’t an particularly unbiased paraphrase either.

Either way, what you wrote was not a quote from the Catechism as you claimed it to be.

It’s close enough. Seems you have a problem with the whole concept.

 

[Brendan_64]

It’s close enough. Seems you have a problem with the whole concept.

No problem here with what’s written in the Catechism. I might take issue with individual interpretations of it though.

 

[steve_b]

No problem here with what’s written in the Catechism. I might take issue with individual interpretations of it though.

like what?

 

[JamesCaruso]

I like this. Been doing this for years. Before knowing Padre Pio.What’s interesting is that this was my mantra for years within my faith.
And then I expressed, not the desire, but the need for RCIA.
Middle management fought and fought to keep me out til the Bishop’s office stepped in.
Now, I am in and still, they are unwelcoming. Sometimes, downright nasty.
Let me stress that my faith is unaffected by this. My ability to express it formally in an organized way, is. I now feel strongly that it is not meant to be.
I do no know what to do with that. It really seems that they are overruling God. More so than I am for being betwixt and between…

As I recall, the Jewish religious leadership overruled God, when they said it was expedient for one man to die for his people. God in turn used that bad judgment of theirs to save, not just His people, but the entire world.

What is it that keeps you from expressing your faith formally in an organized way? I am the one who is confused.

In what way are you unwelcome? The Church isn’t a social club, but its member should be charitable, and when they are not, it hurts the entire Body. But how are you not welcome? On the social level? In Church activities? In certain cliques? Because of what? You don’t have to answer any of this, or you can PM me if you like. You are in my prayers. I hate it when someone has a bad experience regarding Catholicism. I’ve had my share of it and decided to change parishes, which is not alway possible, depending on where you live. Its a hard cross to bear, which takes us back to Jesus’ plight at the hands of “religious” men. I don’t know what else to say.

 

[cheezey]

…it is God’s will for everyone to share that same truth because the New Testament plainly tells us that that knowledge of the truth is tied to our salvation. Anyone who cannot say that needs to do some serious praying and soul searching to decide what to do because we all have that responsibility for our own souls.

this is what I am trying to do, to the best of my abilities. I am not the one fightig this…
praying like you-know-what also…Have been all along…

You need to realize that the Catholic Church obeys the great commission of Our blessed Lord Jesus Christ in which He very specifically tells us.Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and the Holy Spirit…"

I have, I do. Doing the very best I can.

We have a mandate to teach you to obey Him in all things and that is one very good reason that RCIA is so long and so very correct.

Agreed. I have no problem with this. It takes 3 years, cycles, to go through the Bible once as a member of the Church, correct? Which means, in theory, I will be only 1/3 through the Bible teaching aspect of the RCIA, the only aspect of this RCIA, when I am allowed to be recognized as a Catholic. In essence, my education will be incomplete, but I’ll be recognized. (Not to mention, one’s religious education never ceases, so…) If my education is incomplete anyway, why can’t I be recognized sooner? Not immediately, but sooner? I arrived at this point with some understanding, otherwise, I wouldn’t be at this point at all. How many people go to a parish and say, “I want to be Catholic though I have NO idea what this church is all about?”
I have more than an idea. I need guidance to fulfill this…

Most people do not have time to spend every night for months in religious instruction. They have jobs, families, and other obligations that require they allot x amount of time to their initial instruction and discernment to see if they should join the Catholic Church.

I know, makes sense; not everyone has the time. But three months just to receive a call? Just for the inquiry?
This is wrong.
I had that first meeting over three months later. She gave me all the reasons why I shouldn’t join without asking me any pertinent questions, and finished with a very callous sounding, “Well, of course 2013 is a wash; you are much too late with it now…”
Again, I wasn’t; they were. Having stated that the schedule “kinda sorta” (her words) parallels the school year, of course, February is too late, she said. “But I started asking in November, closer to the start of the school year.” “Regardless, it is too late now.” Gave no options from there. None.
I missed the second meeting. (Emergency room overnight.) She called, I told her why I didn’t make it. “Well, now you just to follow up with so and so. It is out of my hands now…” (She is the RCIA director.) And she didn’t ask if I was alright. I really wasn’t. Part of my urgency…
Another priest, not of this parish, made a call. Within 48 hours, after deciding not to do this at this parish, I was called into a meeting, which ended up being the first class. Apparently that priest had called the Bishop’s office; this parish had been admonished. And February certainly does not parallel a school year.The other priest had mentioned earlier that I picked “the most disorganized parish in the diocese.” Apparently!

They still do not in any way make feel welcome.

You can greatly assist this process even now by acquiring a copy of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and/or the Compendium of the Catechism of the Catholic Church and begin diligently studying them right alongside a good Catholic Bible. You also need to begin attending Mass regularly and get to know your parish priest(s) and insure that you are all set to begin RCIA when it begins again.

Been reading the Catechism for over two years now.
Been attending Mass 2-3 times a week since asking in November.
Been attending RCIA since March, four months after my first inquiry.

These people are members of the Church I wanted to join. They do NOT represent that which is The Church. Yet they do. They are in full communion and this is what they do with this blessing?
How do I jump ship without seeming like a RCIA shopper?!!
And there is that urgency; starting over… eek!
(My brother asked, was Baptized (again) and became, inside of 7 months…same parish.
???)

There is a great many excellent Catholic resources that would serve you well in the meantime, like Dr. Edward Sri’s excellent book A Biblical Walk Through the Mass which will teach you the Mass and at the same time show you both the Biblical roots of it as well as a working knowledge of what is going on and why

Thank for this onfo. May my library have it.
If God wants us all to be Catholic, good luck to me…

 

[Used2beSherryG]

this is what I am trying to do, to the best of my abilities. I am not the one fightig this…
praying like you-know-what also…Have been all along…

I have, I do. Doing the very best I can.

Agreed. I have no problem with this. It takes 3 years, cycles, to go through the Bible once as a member of the Church, correct? Which means, in theory, I will be only 1/3 through the Bible teaching aspect of the RCIA, the only aspect of this RCIA, when I am allowed to be recognized as a Catholic. In essence, my education will be incomplete, but I’ll be recognized. (Not to mention, one’s religious education never ceases, so…) If my education is incomplete anyway, why can’t I be recognized sooner? Not immediately, but sooner? I arrived at this point with some understanding, otherwise, I wouldn’t be at this point at all. How many people go to a parish and say, “I want to be Catholic though I have NO idea what this church is all about?”
I have more than an idea. I need guidance to fulfill this…

I know, makes sense; not everyone has the time. But three months just to receive a call? Just for the inquiry?
This is wrong.
I had that first meeting over three months later. She gave me all the reasons why I shouldn’t join without asking me any pertinent questions, and finished with a very callous sounding, “Well, of course 2013 is a wash; you are much too late with it now…”
Again, I wasn’t; they were. Having stated that the schedule “kinda sorta” (her words) parallels the school year, of course, February is too late, she said. “But I started asking in November, closer to the start of the school year.” “Regardless, it is too late now.” Gave no options from there. None.
I missed the second meeting. (Emergency room overnight.) She called, I told her why I didn’t make it. “Well, now you just to follow up with so and so. It is out of my hands now…” (She is the RCIA director.) And she didn’t ask if I was alright. I really wasn’t. Part of my urgency…
Another priest, not of this parish, made a call. Within 48 hours, after deciding not to do this at this parish, I was called into a meeting, which ended up being the first class. Apparently that priest had called the Bishop’s office; this parish had been admonished. And February certainly does not parallel a school year.The other priest had mentioned earlier that I picked “the most disorganized parish in the diocese.” Apparently!

They still do not in any way make feel welcome.

Been reading the Catechism for over two years now.
Been attending Mass 2-3 times a week since asking in November.
Been attending RCIA since March, four months after my first inquiry.

These people are members of the Church I wanted to join. They do NOT represent that which is The Church. Yet they do. They are in full communion and this is what they do with this blessing?
How do I jump ship without seeming like a RCIA shopper?!!
And there is that urgency; starting over… eek!
(My brother asked, was Baptized (again) and became, inside of 7 months…same parish.
???)

Thank for this onfo. May my library have it.
If God wants us all to be Catholic, good luck to me…

Dear Cheezey: I applaud your tenacity and cheer for your persistence. Welcome home. Roadblocks like those you have had are regrettable and hopefully, far from the norm. I’ll be praying for your journey to the Catholic church now that you have found a priest who is understanding of the mission of the church and is willing to give you immediate assistance. if you work with a priest, one on one, he can determine through meetings with you when you are ready to be received into full communion with the Church. RCIA is normative, but not so hard and fast that there are not many exceptions. Sounds like yours may be one of those exceptions to me! While it’s unfortunate that some people in the church do not fully understand what role they are to play, but we are all just people which means we have many flaws and faults. Praying for your road to be straight and smooth from here on!

 

[Chez]

this is what I am trying to do, to the best of my abilities. I am not the one fightig this…
praying like you-know-what also…Have been all along…

I have, I do. Doing the very best I can.

Agreed. I have no problem with this. It takes 3 years, cycles, to go through the Bible once as a member of the Church, correct? Which means, in theory, I will be only 1/3 through the Bible teaching aspect of the RCIA, the only aspect of this RCIA, when I am allowed to be recognized as a Catholic. In essence, my education will be incomplete, but I’ll be recognized. (Not to mention, one’s religious education never ceases, so…) If my education is incomplete anyway, why can’t I be recognized sooner? Not immediately, but sooner? I arrived at this point with some understanding, otherwise, I wouldn’t be at this point at all. How many people go to a parish and say, “I want to be Catholic though I have NO idea what this church is all about?”
I have more than an idea. I need guidance to fulfill this…

I know, makes sense; not everyone has the time. But three months just to receive a call? Just for the inquiry?
This is wrong.
I had that first meeting over three months later. She gave me all the reasons why I shouldn’t join without asking me any pertinent questions, and finished with a very callous sounding, “Well, of course 2013 is a wash; you are much too late with it now…”
Again, I wasn’t; they were. Having stated that the schedule “kinda sorta” (her words) parallels the school year, of course, February is too late, she said. “But I started asking in November, closer to the start of the school year.” “Regardless, it is too late now.” Gave no options from there. None.
I missed the second meeting. (Emergency room overnight.) She called, I told her why I didn’t make it. “Well, now you just to follow up with so and so. It is out of my hands now…” (She is the RCIA director.) And she didn’t ask if I was alright. I really wasn’t. Part of my urgency…
Another priest, not of this parish, made a call. Within 48 hours, after deciding not to do this at this parish, I was called into a meeting, which ended up being the first class. Apparently that priest had called the Bishop’s office; this parish had been admonished. And February certainly does not parallel a school year.The other priest had mentioned earlier that I picked “the most disorganized parish in the diocese.” Apparently!

They still do not in any way make feel welcome.

Been reading the Catechism for over two years now.
Been attending Mass 2-3 times a week since asking in November.
Been attending RCIA since March, four months after my first inquiry.

These people are members of the Church I wanted to join. They do NOT represent that which is The Church. Yet they do. They are in full communion and this is what they do with this blessing?
How do I jump ship without seeming like a RCIA shopper?!!
And there is that urgency; starting over… eek!
(My brother asked, was Baptized (again) and became, inside of 7 months…same parish.
???)

Thank for this onfo. May my library have it.
If God wants us all to be Catholic, good luck to me…

Does God want Cheezey to be Catholic?.. You bet He does!
Does God want Cheezey to understand what being Catholic means?.. Absolutely!

It’s one things to read the Catechism… But understanding it is something different!
It’s one thing attending Mass 2-3 times per week, but do you understand it?

You did a great job pointing out what everybody else is doing wrong, but with no mention of what you might be doing wrong.

You will learn, when you go to Confession, the Priest is not in any way interested in what someone else may have done leading to your sin!.. “Through MY fault, through MY fault, through MY most grievous fault”

Don’t take things so personally… You have no idea what others are going through.
By the way, did you ask the RCIA Instructor how she was feeling?

Cheezey… You sound like good person who looks inward a bit too much!

Carry your Crosses with Grace and dignity, and without complaint!.. Bear all wrongs patiently, forgive all injuries and love your neighbor as you love yourself! (It’s not easy… But neither is dying on a Cross)

I promise… You will be a happy, wonderful and welcomed Catholic.

God Bless!
Chez
That’s right!.. “Chez”

 

[Darryl_B]

Does God want Cheezey to be Catholic?.. You bet He does!
Does God want Cheezey to understand what being Catholic means?.. Absolutely!

It’s one things to read the Catechism… But understanding it is something different!
It’s one thing attending Mass 2-3 times per week, but do you understand it?

You did a great job pointing out what everybody else is doing wrong, but with no mention of what you might be doing wrong.

You will learn, when you go to Confession, the Priest is not in any way interested in what someone else may have done leading to your sin!.. “Through MY fault, through MY fault, through MY most grievous fault”

Don’t take things so personally… You have no idea what others are going through.
By the way, did you ask the RCIA Instructor how she was feeling?

Cheezey… You sound like good person who looks inward a bit too much!

Carry your Crosses with Grace and dignity, and without complaint!.. Bear all wrongs patiently, forgive all injuries and love your neighbor as you love yourself! (It’s not easy… But neither is dying on a Cross)

I promise… You will be a happy, wonderful and welcomed Catholic.

God Bless!
Chez
That’s right!.. “Chez”

Thank you I needed to hear that as much as cheezy since I am intending to go through the next RCIA course when it starts in my region and it seems so far away, and cheezy was kind of placing doubt in my head and that I should go back to the easy Evangelical church I have been going to. Sincerely thank you.

 

[ClydeViola]

Perhaps our focus should not be on what we think, God ‘thinks’, but on what Jesus revealed to us of the fatherhood of God, the brotherhood of men, and how we fit into His Father’s grand plan for eternity. Although it was not in any sense a divine will of the Father for Jesus to painfully die on a cross, always remember, with the universe watching and holding its breath, as part of His plan, on the third day Jesus rose from the dead, not just for you or me and the rest of mankind, but also, for all His ET creation throughout His universe of time and space.

Jesus loves men so much that His love awakens the response of love, not just in the human heart, but also in the heart of every God-seeking ET creature throughout His creation, of which we, as humans, are an infinitesimal small part.

Yes, Earth is a very special planet!

As for your question…… ‘Does God want everyone to be Catholic?’, now, you draw your own conclusion.

 

[pocohombre]

Does God want Cheezey to be Catholic?.. You bet He does!
Does God want Cheezey to understand what being Catholic means?.. Absolutely!

It’s one things to read the Catechism… But understanding it is something different!
It’s one thing attending Mass 2-3 times per week, but do you understand it?

You did a great job pointing out what everybody else is doing wrong, but with no mention of what you might be doing wrong.

You will learn, when you go to Confession, the Priest is not in any way interested in what someone else may have done leading to your sin!.. “Through MY fault, through MY fault, through MY most grievous fault”

Don’t take things so personally… You have no idea what others are going through.
By the way, did you ask the RCIA Instructor how she was feeling?

Cheezey… You sound like good person who looks inward a bit too much!

Carry your Crosses with Grace and dignity, and without complaint!.. Bear all wrongs patiently, forgive all injuries and love your neighbor as you love yourself! (It’s not easy… But neither is dying on a Cross)

I promise… You will be a happy, wonderful and welcomed Catholic.

God Bless!
Chez
That’s right!.. “Chez”

Just to stir the pot God wants you to be…are you born again? Do you believe Christ died for you "cheezy’ and paid the price for your salvation? Yes, God wants you to be a “Christian” first and foremost.

 

[chero23]

I think God wants everyone to be Christian and to accept His Son as Lord and Savior. Denominations shouldn’t matter.

But when denomination teaches that abortion is ok, and the building next to it says well just in some cases, then the church next to it says no you can not have an abortion. You have 3 different teachings. I don’t think god is confused Lisa, Protestants make it sound that he is.