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Satan has Knowledge of God…
Understanding supersedes Knowledge
Wisdom supersedes Understanding
Inheriting Eternal Life is Obeying God’s Command to Love One Another
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Does infused knowledge have to be confirmed through acquired knowledge?
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Understanding supersedes Knowledge
Wisdom supersedes Understanding
Inheriting Eternal Life is Obeying God’s Command to Love One Another
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Vico
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That is a list of intellectual virtues, nothing there states that they can only be had through infusion. So what do you disagree with? Did you read the quoted source that provides the answers to your questions?Vico:
I disagree…
The potential is there for - via Faith and/or Reason - to develop them…
wisdom? Fear of the Lord is the beginning of Wisdom
science? what’s that? Homo Sap’s desire to Know Everthing…
art? what’s that? drawing stick figures on a wall for the actual purpose of teaching hunting?
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Vico
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I cannot prove to anyone what was miraculously conferred by God to me, if it was. I have had what could be called mystical experiences.Vico:
Have you ever been infused with knowledge?
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Because St. Thomas says “There is nothing in the intellect that wasn’t first in the senses.”
There are audio stimuli (words) in my intellect that I’m not fully sure where they originated. If somehow these were infused into me and are not memories I gained from sense experience…Then St. Thomas’s assertion would fall flat…and open up the possibility of Cartesian skepticism of the sense (which is NOT a road I want to go down.)
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My connection with God… is mostly via FAITH in JEsus - and the Guidance via God’s Spirit…
Theological terms ?
Even (and Only) from the Magisterium - ?
serve … when involved in apologetics with those who need it.
God has imprinted His laws upon Hearts…
And the Mind of Jesus in Sacred Scriptures
It requires FAITH to see.
Yet even That alone is meaningless unless we not only accept what we hear - but do them -
Especially the Bottom Line - of Obeying God’s Command to Love One Another…
Wisdom?
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- If any of you lacks wisdom, you should ask God, who gives generously to all without finding fault, and it will be given to you. But when you ask, you must believe and not doubt, because the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea, blown and tossed by the wind. That person should not expect to receive anything from the Lord.
- Such a person is double-minded and unstable in all they do.
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Alright, so I will ask again: did you read the article and what do you disagree with?
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Mystical experiences are not the same as infused knowledge.
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No 10 chars. You learned that from a fictional cartoon somewhere.
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sainteriksrose
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Isn’t “infused knowledge” a Catholic term? It’s in our dictionaries…
That it is an unasked for and not-to-be-sought gift/charism of some saints private revelations? Which are not required learning even after they’ve been investigated and approved. Too, they come from God and are merely a means of guiding a soul to Him. At least that’s my understanding.
That it is an unasked for and not-to-be-sought gift/charism of some saints private revelations? Which are not required learning even after they’ve been investigated and approved. Too, they come from God and are merely a means of guiding a soul to Him. At least that’s my understanding.
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Vico
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The meanings are different, however knowledge is infused through mystical experiences.
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Did you read the quoted source that provides the answers to your questions?Vico:
You’ve read what Scriptures say to all.
Any disagreement?
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When one avoids answering me… one might wind up asking the same thing over and over …
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The knowledge that we have as Christians regarding supernatural truths will be confirmed-in the next life. Faith is a balancing act between knowledge given and our personal acceptance of it.
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I won’t be asking again. I first asked in post 22 Does infused knowledge have to be confirmed through acquired knowledge? - #22 by VicoVico:
When one avoids answering me… one might wind up asking the same thing over and over …
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I read the following. In Jesus…infused knowledge (which was connatural)was when he told the Samaritan woman what he did about her life.
He had “ no way” to know.It was true. And the woman realized it was true and that He had “ no way” to know.
He was Jesus…but this gives an idea of what infused knowledge is.
I think…that some acquired knowledge of some sort has to confirm it. In this case the woman does.
Otherwise , we cannot say it is “ knowledge” of any kind.
It may be we are making it up, or guessing, or imagining, not real “ knowledge”
He had “ no way” to know.It was true. And the woman realized it was true and that He had “ no way” to know.
He was Jesus…but this gives an idea of what infused knowledge is.
I think…that some acquired knowledge of some sort has to confirm it. In this case the woman does.
Otherwise , we cannot say it is “ knowledge” of any kind.
It may be we are making it up, or guessing, or imagining, not real “ knowledge”
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John 17:3 -
And this is Life Eternal,
that they should be knowing You
the only True God,
and Jesus Christ,
Whom You have sent.
Satan doubtless has some kind of knowledge of God…
But He is not KNOWING the One True God and His Son…
How do you experientially differentiate them?
My dad always used to say: :“I don’t understand all I know about this!”
OK… Meaning it is a consequence? Or has greater value?
eg Moving from Understanding to Wisdom entails what?
That is why I referenced John 17:3 above - eg Means OF attainment vs the Attainment itself…
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