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What do you mean by expatriats? Americans living in other countries that are radicals?
Yes.there is reciprocity (though not always, there are several countries that the US requires visa and on the other end Americans are not required visa, that happens when you are the most powerful country in the world) and that would affect bilateral relations with Europe, thatis why iI say that I don’t.see it happening, but there are no controls and it may be dangerous.
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DeniseNY
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Will never happen. It makes too much sense. And lets not forget the fact that we still have an open border that our “leaders” have been ignoring for how long now?
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Songcatcher
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Trump isn’t proposing a ban on Muslim immigration, he’s proposing a ban on allowing any Muslim to enter the United States for any reason. A Muslim businessman invited for a conference would not be allowed to enter. A Muslim grandmother invited by her Muslim American family to spend the holidays would not be allowed to visit. The only exception he is proposing for allowing a Muslim to enter the US is if they are already a citizen which, I guess, is at least good news for the 5800 Muslim Americans serving in our armed forces overseas.
Using the rationale of your “local talk radio” the only way to make Trump’s plan constitutional would be to ban ALL foreign visitors from entering the US.
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Jeanne_S
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Yes,that is essentially the idea,to ban all immigration for the time being,which is what I stated in my post ,did you miss that?
Also,not sure what your point is in using quotations re local talk host?
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SHANTARAM
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While Trump is blasting ISIS, illegal immigration, Obamacare, what have all of the other candidates done? Blast Trump, it’s all they have, you never hear anything productive from them, and why? Because they are all the same.
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Songcatcher
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You said the talk radio show was talking about Trump’s plan. Trump’s plan has nothing to do with immigration.Yes,that is essentially the idea,to ban all immigration for the time being,which is what zi stated in my list,did you miss that?
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Jeanne_S
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More than anything,Trump with all of his bombast isn’t afraid of verbalizing what the majority of Americans are thinking.ThevPC culture will be the death of our Nation. The fact that he continues to rise and if nothing else remain steady in the polls is evidence of this fact.Speaking for myself,I am over politics as usual,it is refreshing for a change.That is also why I really like aged Cruz he isn’t PC either.
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tomarin
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Yes but they aren’t always informed by any sense of the obligations of reality, like when he said he would build a wall along the U.S. - Mexico border (okay) and also make Mexico pay for it (say what now?).More than anything,Trump with all of his bombast isn’t afraid of verbalizing what the majority of Americans are thinking.ThevPC culture will be the death of our Nation. The fact that he continues to rise and if nothing else remain steady in the polls is evidence of this fact.Speaking for myself,I am over politics as usual,it is refreshing for a change.That is also why I really like aged Cruz he isn’t PC either.
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DeniseNY
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I just read something similar on a blog this morning. I’m paraphrasing, but essential said that Trump’s rhetoric is resonating with voters because of the political elite being concerned with everything other than what is of concern to the “average American”. And then being lectured to about how their concerns are nothing but racism, or whatever -ism du jour applies.More than anything,Trump with all of his bombast isn’t afraid of verbalizing what the majority of Americans are thinking.ThevPC culture will be the death of our Nation. The fact that he continues to rise and if nothing else remain steady in the polls is evidence of this fact.Speaking for myself,I am over politics as usual,it is refreshing for a change.That is also why I really like aged Cruz he isn’t PC either.
The author of that blog makes no bones of the fact that he wouldn’t vote for Trump (and neither would I), but people are sick to death of the political elites in this country who they view as looking down their noses at “we the people”
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Jeanne_S
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That is it in a nutshell.In fact I got a call from a RNC rep,asking for continued monetary support.I pretty much told him I wasn’t inclined to give support until and which time the powers that be in the Republican Establishment listen to their base ,that I want a true Conservative.Tired of holding my nose when I vote.
BTY,I realize Trump isn’t a true Conservative,however,if he should end up the nominee,I will vote for him.
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dreamer29
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The so called PC (disease) will be the demise of this great nation. It will take the non-PC and silent majority citizens to start the ball rolling to rid this disease and bring this country back to greatness. Looks at us today and look back in the past and compare. Evidence is there we are losing this country.More than anything,Trump with all of his bombast isn’t afraid of verbalizing what the majority of Americans are thinking.ThevPC culture will be the death of our Nation. The fact that he continues to rise and if nothing else remain steady in the polls is evidence of this fact.Speaking for myself,I am over politics as usual,it is refreshing for a change.That is also why I really like aged Cruz he isn’t PC either.
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gilliam
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The Republican Party (well Whigs actually) has see all this before and an off-shoot called the Know Nothing Party was created.
The Know-Nothing Party, also known as the American Party, was a prominent United States political party during the late 1840s and the early 1850s.
The American Party originated in 1849. Its members strongly opposed immigrants and followers of the Catholic Church. The majority of white Americans followed Protestant faiths. Many of these people feared Catholics because members of this faith followed the teachings of the Pope. The Know-Nothings feared that the Catholics were more loyal to the Pope than to the United States. More radical members of the Know-Nothing Party believed that the Catholics intended to take over the United States of America. The Catholics would then place the nation under the Pope’s rule. The Know-Nothing Party intended to prevent Catholics and immigrants from being elected to political offices. Its members also hoped to deny these people jobs in the private sector, arguing that the nation’s business owners needed to employ true Americans.
The majority of Know-Nothings came from middle and working-class backgrounds. These people feared competition for jobs from immigrants coming to the United States. Critics of this party named it the Know-Nothing Party because it was a secret organization. Its members would not reveal the party’s doctrines to non-members. Know-Nothings were to respond to questions about their beliefs with, “I know nothing.” The Know-Nothing Party adopted the American Party as its official name in 1854. The Know-Nothing Party quickly grew in popularity in the North, where most recent immigrants to the United States resided. In 1854, Know-Nothing candidates even won control of the Massachusetts legislature.
Know-Nothings also wielded some power in Ohio. Several cities, including Youngstown and Cleveland, had newspapers that touted Know-Nothing beliefs. Many white Protestants in the state disliked the Catholic Church for opposing taxation to finance public schools. Catholic parents preferred enrolling their sons and daughters in Catholic schools and did not feel that they should financially support schools that their children did not attend. Ohio’s Know-Nothings formed an alliance in the early 1850s with the Fusionist Party, a precursor of the Republican Party. The Know-Nothings campaigned for Fusionist Salmon Chase in the gubernatorial election of 1855. Their support helped Chase win the election.
Nationally, in 1856, the American Party ran Millard Fillmore as its candidate for President of the United States. While Fillmore finished last, he still received almost 900,000 votes out of the approximately four million votes cast in the election. Although many Americans, including some Ohioans, opposed the Catholic faith and lived in fear of immigrants, slavery and its expansion was a more important issue to them. The Know-Nothing Party refused to take a stand on slavery. As a result of the party’s refusal to take a position on slavery, the Know-Nothing Party was declined by the presidential election of 1860. The party did not run a candidate for president in this election, as many of its followers had joined the Republican Party.
ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Know-Nothing_Party?rec=911
The Know-Nothing Party, also known as the American Party, was a prominent United States political party during the late 1840s and the early 1850s.
The American Party originated in 1849. Its members strongly opposed immigrants and followers of the Catholic Church. The majority of white Americans followed Protestant faiths. Many of these people feared Catholics because members of this faith followed the teachings of the Pope. The Know-Nothings feared that the Catholics were more loyal to the Pope than to the United States. More radical members of the Know-Nothing Party believed that the Catholics intended to take over the United States of America. The Catholics would then place the nation under the Pope’s rule. The Know-Nothing Party intended to prevent Catholics and immigrants from being elected to political offices. Its members also hoped to deny these people jobs in the private sector, arguing that the nation’s business owners needed to employ true Americans.
The majority of Know-Nothings came from middle and working-class backgrounds. These people feared competition for jobs from immigrants coming to the United States. Critics of this party named it the Know-Nothing Party because it was a secret organization. Its members would not reveal the party’s doctrines to non-members. Know-Nothings were to respond to questions about their beliefs with, “I know nothing.” The Know-Nothing Party adopted the American Party as its official name in 1854. The Know-Nothing Party quickly grew in popularity in the North, where most recent immigrants to the United States resided. In 1854, Know-Nothing candidates even won control of the Massachusetts legislature.
Know-Nothings also wielded some power in Ohio. Several cities, including Youngstown and Cleveland, had newspapers that touted Know-Nothing beliefs. Many white Protestants in the state disliked the Catholic Church for opposing taxation to finance public schools. Catholic parents preferred enrolling their sons and daughters in Catholic schools and did not feel that they should financially support schools that their children did not attend. Ohio’s Know-Nothings formed an alliance in the early 1850s with the Fusionist Party, a precursor of the Republican Party. The Know-Nothings campaigned for Fusionist Salmon Chase in the gubernatorial election of 1855. Their support helped Chase win the election.
Nationally, in 1856, the American Party ran Millard Fillmore as its candidate for President of the United States. While Fillmore finished last, he still received almost 900,000 votes out of the approximately four million votes cast in the election. Although many Americans, including some Ohioans, opposed the Catholic faith and lived in fear of immigrants, slavery and its expansion was a more important issue to them. The Know-Nothing Party refused to take a stand on slavery. As a result of the party’s refusal to take a position on slavery, the Know-Nothing Party was declined by the presidential election of 1860. The party did not run a candidate for president in this election, as many of its followers had joined the Republican Party.
ohiohistorycentral.org/w/Know-Nothing_Party?rec=911
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Crossbones
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I’m pretty sure that no one is under any delusions that the political elite of the Republican Party care about racism.
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DeniseNY
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Yeah, whatever crossbones
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tomarin
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That’s populism for you.
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Good_Tidings
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I don’t think it’s the majority of Americans, only the majority of Republicans.More than anything,Trump with all of his bombast isn’t afraid of verbalizing what the majority of Americans are thinking.ThevPC culture will be the death of our Nation. The fact that he continues to rise and if nothing else remain steady in the polls is evidence of this fact.Speaking for myself,I am over politics as usual,it is refreshing for a change.That is also why I really like aged Cruz he isn’t PC either.
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DeniseNY
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I agree. The Democrats are fine with politics as usual.
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Good_Tidings
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A fitting side note. Thanks for the info.
meltzerboy
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What kind of lifelong Democrats would vote for Trump? His views are totally opposite of virtually everything the Democratic Party has ever stood for. I still have to wonder, however, whether he really believes much of what he proposes or whether he is motivated primarily by a drive toward competition in an uphill race, coming out ahead in the end, and being the focus of attention in the process.
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